Josh Hawley 2024

[ADevilYouKhow]

Unless dude is ready to give up his seat, this is going to end with him looking like he gave up and joined the swamp

lol you know he won’t resign

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Imagine Trump winning in New York or California.. you think the GOP would say the race is close They would absolutely run around claiming they have a mandate.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Not to mention the fact that Biden was not SUPPOSED to win GA and AZ. That shows you how lopsided the race is when a candidate is winning in places that he wouldn't have dreamed of months prior...

one of my Republican small town newspapers referred to GA as a swing state regarding the GA senate runoff I was

 

[Professor Emeritus]

is it the fact that 90 percent of america hates the lockdowns? oh wait, that proves my point

Where do you get your information? 90% of Americans hate getting shots, but that doesn't mean they're all idiotic anti-vaxxers.

Let's take a look at conservative-ass Arizona. Very important battleground state.

Arizona:

• A majority supports another lockdown amid thousands of new coronavirus cases in Arizona: Nearly 9 in 10 Arizonans (87%) are concerned about a new wave of COVID-19 outbreak in their area. In response, Gov. Doug Ducey on Monday ordered the state’s bars, gyms, movie theaters, and water parks to shut down for at least 30 days, a decision that many support: (76%) of those in Arizona said they support another lockdown.
• Nearly three-quarters (72%) of Arizonans say the first lockdowns were effective in their area, but a majority (61%) oppose their states re-opening: Just three weeks after the stay-at-home orders were lifted and business closures expired, Arizona saw a big spike in the number of coronavirus cases on June 10th as reported by NBC. In fact, half (47%) of Arizonans say one of the biggest drivers of the resurgence is that their state re-opened too soon and that they did not meet the criteria to reopen. What’s more is that (35%) of people in Arizona say their state reopened in a cavalier manner, without critical systems in place to manage and track the virus transmission.
• How did we end up here again? Reckless behavior and no incentives to follow safety guidelines: We asked people in Arizona what they thought were the biggest drivers for the resurgence of COVID-19 cases in their state and (53%) say people in their state have acted reckless by not following safety protocols. Pair that with over a third (35%) who say there was no incentive for people to follow state recommended safety protocols (e.g., masks) as they were not enforced requirements, but rather “recommendations”.

Okay, how about Texas though? Texas is even more conservative than Arizona.

Texas:

Similar to Arizona, a majority of Texans (76%) support another lockdown amidst thousands of new COVID-19 cases in their state: This support correlates with the fact that 4 in 5 Texans are concerned about a new wave of COVID-19 outbreak in their area. Three-fifths (62%) of Texans agree that we need to make sacrifices now if there is to be any real chance at fighting COVID-19, reflecting new growing concern.

Texans are divided on their state’s approach to re-opening in the coming weeks and months: Nearly 3 in 5 Texans (58%) oppose their state’s approach to re-opening, while around 2 in 5 (42%) support it. Despite nearly three quarters of Texans thinking their lockdowns were effective in their area, Texas recently reported a record number of 8,258 new cases in a single day. More than half of Texans (56%) attribute the resurgence to people in their state acting recklessly by not following safety protocols. What’s more is that (43%) of Texans say another driver of the resurgence is the White House downplaying the danger of COVID-19 and diminishing effective disease defenses such as mask-wearing, testing, and social distancing.

Why the fukk are Republican governors ordering lockdowns in a Republican-majority states if everyone is sick of lockdowns and no one thinks they're a good idea? Hmmm?



What about national polling?

How the Coronavirus Outbreak Is Impacting Public Opinion

71% of all voters, including 67% of independents and even 55% of Republicans, agree with the statement:

“Americans should continue to social distance for as long as is needed to curb the spread of coronavirus even if it means continued damage to the economy.”

Well damn. That's actually even more decisive than I was thinking. Also, independents think Trump has screwed up the coronavirus response by a 30-point margin, only 33% of all voters (including 35% of independents) think the economic impact of the virus has been worse than the public health impact, voters overall trust Congressional Democrats' response to coronavirus more than Congressional Republicans' by an 18-point margin, and 52% of Americans think that America is handling the pandemic worse than other countries compared to just 36% who think it's doing better.


So that's where I get my information on what Americans think.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

one of my Republican small town newspapers referred to GA as a swing state regarding the GA senate runoff I was

I forgot we are supposed to act like it's the end of the world and the Democratic party is in shambles because their candidate won in fukking Arizona and fukking Georgia.

2 states mind you that none of these people on here were giving Biden a chance in.. now they wanna move the goalposts. My final map had Arizona in the win column for Biden. A lot of these dudes thought it was a pipedream.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Not too bad I must say. All I had was NC and GA flipped. Everything else spot on.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

i told you like two hours ago that my source is common sense

How the fukk would "common sense" tell you how different states were faring compared to each other or how political decisions were impacting death rates?

Where do you get your information from on these issues?

 

[the cac mamba]

How the fukk would "common sense" tell you how different states were faring compared to each other or how political decisions were impacting death rates?

Where do you get your information from on these issues?

breh, repeat after me

your contention is that the voters will be holding politicians to account in 24 because of covid deaths

 

[Pressure]

People don't like lockdowns, but I don't recall it having negative ramifications for politicians. Roy Cooper actually outperformed his first election amid lockdowns.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

breh, repeat after me

your contention is that the voters will be holding politicians to account in 24 because of covid deaths

No, I'm talking about your repeated assertion that politicians don't have any blame in Covid death #'s. The one you have made more than once but continuously dodge when I ask you where you get your information from.

Why do you still avoid the question? WHERE do you get your information on Covid policy and outcomes from?

In terms of "the voters" holding politicians to account? Not every voter and not every politician. But millions of people who were very personally affected by Covid deaths will be less likely to vote for those particular politicians who were openly and proudly negligent in protecting people.

I mean, she didn't just refuse to have any lockdown or mask mandate. She openly encouraged large gatherings, openly called the idea of wearing masks into question, openly rejected public health advice and pushed pseudoscience, refused to take enhanced unemployment money for her state's workers or rental assistance for people behind on rent. She invited that big Trump rally at Mt Rushmore and made zero social distancing requirements and then did the same for the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally, and both became superspreader events. Her state became one of the top-5 worst Covid states in the nation despite having one of the lowest population densities in the nation. Hospitals were in such bad shape that they had to ship in nurses from other states and prioritize the worst cases and not treat some people with moderate cases. Her health department lied to the public and said 30% of ICU beds were still available, later having to admit that they were including the large #'s of infant ICU beds that adults couldn't even use.

She was publicly called out by the governor of Minnesota for putting his state more at risk. She was called out by the governor of North Dakota for suppressing the true death rate by under-testing in nursing homes. She's made the epidemics in both of their states worse.

This isn't just some, "Oh, she didn't do a great job." She took pride in how little she did. And that's gonna catch feelings by a lot of people who were deeply hurt by the outcomes. If she's on the ticket, the DNC should do an entire night solely of testimonials from South Dakota residents who lost family members due to her proud incompetence.


But on to that other question. Where do you get your information on Covid policy and outcomes from?

 

[the cac mamba]

No, I'm talking about your repeated assertion that politicians don't have any blame in Covid death #'s. The one you have made more than once but continuously dodge when I ask you where you get your information from.

Why do you still avoid the question? WHERE do you get your information on Covid policy and outcomes from?

In terms of "the voters" holding politicians to account? Not every voter and not every politician. But millions of people who were very personally affected by Covid deaths will be less likely to vote for those particular politicians who were openly and proudly negligent in protecting people.

I mean, she didn't just refuse to have any lockdown or mask mandate. She openly encouraged large gatherings, openly called the idea of wearing masks into question, openly rejected public health advice and pushed pseudoscience, refused to take enhanced unemployment money for her state's workers or rental assistance for people behind on rent. She invited that big Trump rally at Mt Rushmore and made zero social distancing requirements and then did the same for the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally, and both became superspreader events. Her state became one of the top-5 worst Covid states in the nation despite having one of the lowest population densities in the nation. Hospitals were in such bad shape that they had to ship in nurses from other states and prioritize the worst cases and not treat some people with moderate cases. Her health department lied to the public and said 30% of ICU beds were still available, later having to admit that they were including the large #'s of infant ICU beds that adults couldn't even use.

She was publicly called out by the governor of Minnesota for putting his state more at risk. She was called out by the governor of North Dakota for suppressing the true death rate by under-testing in nursing homes. She's made the epidemics in both of their states worse.

This isn't just some, "Oh, she didn't do a great job." She took pride in how little she did. And that's gonna catch feelings by a lot of people who were deeply hurt by the outcomes. If she's on the ticket, the DNC should do an entire night solely of testimonials from South Dakota residents who lost family members due to her proud incompetence.


But on to that other question. Where do you get your information on Covid policy and outcomes from?

this dude cant admit that locking down wont be popular in 2024

 

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this guy

 

[Professor Emeritus]

this dude cant admit that locking down wont be popular in 2024

Where do you get your information on how Covid policies are impacting different states?

You've posted 37 times in this thread yet avoided that basic-ass question a dozen times...why can't you just answer the one question?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Hawley doesn't stand a chance

This is going well

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

her wikipedia

Marjorie Taylor Greene is an American politician, conspiracy theorist, businesswoman, and U.S. Representative-elect for Georgia's 14th congressional district. She has drawn national attention for supporting the far-right QAnon conspiracy theory in Facebook videos.


this woman was elected tho