DaKidFromNoWhere
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Jordan Neely, Tucker Carlson, and ‘rooting for the mob’ as America unravels
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DaKidFromNoWhere
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Why did I click this shyt :snoop:
All of them need to be on the FBI watch list
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I disagree
Sorry but I saw this guy a LOT on the train
He was a raging a$$hole addict and nothing about him was peaceful or humble ..dude wasn't this guy that never hurt anyone and was just asking for food
likely you'd get spit on by him even if you did offer him help.but he was so out of control behaviorwise what you did was just avoid him.so that he wouldn't attack.you or cause you to be pushed in front of a train.
Im.not advocating vigilantism or saying homeless people shouldn't get help ...
But he was absolutely 199 percent the guy who would say some shyt and get some FAFO from someone just as much an a$$hole as he was
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Did he physically attack anyone on the train the day he was murdered? If not, then shut the fukk up you lunatic.
I wrote earlier I live in downtown San Diego, and there is a homeless crisis, fueled by many factors, but primarily, for those on the street is meth and fentanyl, plus mental illness.
I'm always walking, and I have had several situations almost turn violent, it was hard for me to resist that pull into violence. One guy ran up on me early one morning, started talking crazy, and pulled a knife, he was just a pathetic tweaker with a fold out knife, not even open, but I almost just fukked him up. I deescalated and walked away.
Another guy I can tell served time in prison, but smokes rock and wanders around, every time dude sees me, he would yell out "fakkit" "fukk YOU fakkit", and start talking gang/prison shyt to me, despite being like 5'2 and slouched over, sucked up old man. He got close enough to me once, that I almost hit him, but he didn't really want to fight. I know these guys are out of their minds, but someone disrespecting you, and threatening you, you get that feeling. WHAT UP CUZ YOU A fakkit
My boy and I used to box in the park, and I was walking home with gloves and that guy started telling, so so close to putting on the gloves and just beating him down, but I threw a $20 at him instead.
all that to say, putting someone in a chokehold and holding it for 8 minutes is not right, and I wouldn't do it, but situations can spiral rapidly. but if the guy wasn't actually being violent, there is no justification besides fear and intimidation.
I'm always walking, and I have had several situations almost turn violent, it was hard for me to resist that pull into violence. One guy ran up on me early one morning, started talking crazy, and pulled a knife, he was just a pathetic tweaker with a fold out knife, not even open, but I almost just fukked him up. I deescalated and walked away.
Another guy I can tell served time in prison, but smokes rock and wanders around, every time dude sees me, he would yell out "fakkit" "fukk YOU fakkit", and start talking gang/prison shyt to me, despite being like 5'2 and slouched over, sucked up old man. He got close enough to me once, that I almost hit him, but he didn't really want to fight. I know these guys are out of their minds, but someone disrespecting you, and threatening you, you get that feeling. WHAT UP CUZ YOU A fakkit
My boy and I used to box in the park, and I was walking home with gloves and that guy started telling, so so close to putting on the gloves and just beating him down, but I threw a $20 at him instead.
all that to say, putting someone in a chokehold and holding it for 8 minutes is not right, and I wouldn't do it, but situations can spiral rapidly. but if the guy wasn't actually being violent, there is no justification besides fear and intimidation.
Racism / Race Baiting
Thats still not been determined ..
There were people who called and said he was physically attacking people ...a person called and said he had a weapon
I'm not sure what planet a lot of the people in this thread live on, but in the real world if a dude runs up on you ( or a woman or old woman ) saying they are gonna fukk you up - they gonna get fukked up in that case - first strike
There's plenty of incidents where homeless people not only act aggressive but then do something aggressive - and once someone is punched so bad they hit their head and die or pushed in front of a trainand die ....everyone is like why didn't someone do something to prevent that person who was obviously about to attack from attacking
Again we cant say how much we want people to intervene when some fukked up shyt is about to happen and then lament when someone does the shyt we say should be done and it LOOKS bad
Dude grabbed him and held him down with two other people ...and notice nothing has been said about them
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But you assumed he did.
The issue here is that we must do more to create institutions to help people not be in these predicaments.
Racism / Race Baiting
There's people on 911 saying he did attack people thats not an assumption
And yeh there should be better institutions to help people thats doesn't address the situation that' was in that train car .
there are people casting this dudes actions as if he was just minding his own biz begging for food and somehow he was attacked for no good reason ...
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as far as i understand it, NY law does not allow you to use "unreasonable" amounts of force in response to otherwise nonlethal incidents, so even if we accept that neely was aggressive or even assaulting someone, you have a high hurdle to justify choking him to death.
That's called a duty to retreat and the issue is that the Prosecutor can't really say that the dude could exercise that duty since the argument that can be made is that on a enclosed train car there was no place to "retreat" eap if dude is "attacking "
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that he had the foreknowledge that his action would hurt him - which again you'd have to prove
The assertion from his side is he was JUST holding him
Except non of this happened. By witnesses accounts he was talking about being hungry, thirsty and tired about not having a job. He said he doesn’t care if he goes to jail.
Also how could he have been threatening the murderer if the murderer by all accounts walked up to him from behind and choked him?
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duty to retreat is not necessary if you are not trying to use deadly force. you can put hands on people if they are attacking. the question is what you do with the hands. when a man is behind someone, casually choking him and being assisted by at least one other man, it is hard to argue that neely is the one making the situation dangerous for the entire amount of minutes he is being choked. at a certain point, even if neely started a fight, he becomes incapable of danger while he is solidly in a choke hold with another man on his arms.
as for foreknowledge, it is reasonable to think grown men understand the dangers of choking. his entrance score in the marine corps probably goes toward establishing that.
