Jordan: “If a homeless man can ask for spare change he can say welcome to McDonald’s”

[Max Power]

Oh no

another thread where coli posters start suspiciously sounding like old , rich, white, racist mfs.

Hard work is something only old, rich, white, racists are allowed to believe in apparently.

Everybody else needs to know their place and beg for handouts.

 

[TheBigBopper]

Not really, he became a billionaire simply due to branding and shoes

Bulk of MJ’s wealth is from the bobcats valuation.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

I give food, not money

 

[NobodyReally]

what evidence is there that says this?

Think tanks, economists, sociologists, psychologists, anthropologists, and governments have been studying social mobility for decades. Its rare for someone to break out of the socioeconomic status they were born into. The media likes to focus on the rare instances where it occurs so people think its normal and easy but its not. The pulling yourself up by your bootstraps mantra helps justify celebrating the wealthy as hardworking while demonizing the poor.

Americans Think Upward Mobility Is Far More Common Than It Really Is

Americans Think Upward Mobility Is Far More Common Than It Really Is
New research confirms that we overestimate our ability to advance "by a wide margin."
Eric Jaffe
February 2, 2015, 1:33 PM EST

The belief that enough hard work can and will result in getting ahead is still fundamental to American life, even if lately that equation feels shakier than ever. In reality, the chances of escaping poverty in the United States varies widely depending on where you live, and while overall social mobility trends have stayed relatively flat over time, the U.S. lags behind other developed nations in this department. And a new study has found that Americans could stand to be quite a bit more cynical about how often upwardly mobile class shifts actually occur.

 

[Carlton Banks]

I only support beggars that use Gofund me, get with the time losers!

 

[TheBigBopper]

Think tanks, economists, sociologists, psychologists, anthropologists, and governments have been studying social mobility for decades. Its rare for someone to break out of the socioeconomic status they were born into. The media likes to focus on the rare instances where it occurs so people think its normal and easy but its not. The pulling yourself up by your bootstraps mantra helps justify celebrating the wealthy as hardworking while demonizing the poor.

Americans Think Upward Mobility Is Far More Common Than It Really Is

Americans Think Upward Mobility Is Far More Common Than It Really Is
New research confirms that we overestimate our ability to advance "by a wide margin."
Eric Jaffe
February 2, 2015, 1:33 PM EST

The belief that enough hard work can and will result in getting ahead is still fundamental to American life, even if lately that equation feels shakier than ever. In reality, the chances of escaping poverty in the United States varies widely depending on where you live, and while overall social mobility trends have stayed relatively flat over time, the U.S. lags behind other developed nations in this department. And a new study has found that Americans could stand to be quite a bit more cynical about how often upwardly mobile class shifts actually occur.

These studies say the probability is low but not non existent. How would they look though if you controlled for IQ, work ethic and education?

 

[that guy]

People say he’s “privileged” or an a$$hole for this perspective but when you think about how hard we all know Mike worked to build what he built for himself, why would you expect him to be the type of person to just give somebody something they could earn on their own??

MJs parents had him in all types of basketball camps and AAU tournaments. He worked hard but a lot of people work hard but don’t have the same resources.

 

[NobodyReally]

These studies say the probability is low but not non existent. How would they look though if you controlled for IQ, work ethic and education?

Its interesting you throw work ethic in there when all of the labor data shows poor people work longer hours, more jobs, and more physically demanding roles than the rich. See more brainwashing about the "hard working rich". The actual labor data says the opposite.

 

[Wild self]

That’s a disgusting and baseless assertion to make.

But its true, because you would condone that disgusting behavior against the poor . Being poor is a sin, to you, and you would kill them if given the (legal) opportunity.

 

[TheBigBopper]

Its interesting you throw work ethic in there when all of the labor data shows poor people work longer hours, more jobs, and more physically demanding roles than the rich. See more brainwashing about the "hard working rich". The actual labor data says the opposite.

None of that matters if they didn’t put in the necessary work ethic in their teens and twenties.

Also, where are they even sourcing this data? Compared to run of the mill middle class people or tippy top rich folks who have inherited fully functioning businesses and or live off dividends, this might be true, but it’s not possible to command a six figure income in corporate America and not work at least 60+ hours a week. Engineers might be an exception, but everyone else, from bankers to lawyers to freaking HR folks put in long hours.

upper middle class people are probably the hardest working folks in the country and most millionaires in America become wealthy by having upper middle class professions and investing their wages. Top 1% of the 1% is a different story not even worth comparing because there are so few of them.

 

[that guy]

MJ has been privileged since he was a teenager in a time were the black community was going through the crack epidemic, his world views are always going to be warped.

I literally just said this. He was playing AAU and going to basketball camps his whole childhood. Two parents and a stable household. He was blessed beyond belief.

 

[1LurkerChick9]

Think tanks, economists, sociologists, psychologists, anthropologists, and governments have been studying social mobility for decades. Its rare for someone to break out of the socioeconomic status they were born into. The media likes to focus on the rare instances where it occurs so people think its normal and easy but its not. The pulling yourself up by your bootstraps mantra helps justify celebrating the wealthy as hardworking while demonizing the poor.

Americans Think Upward Mobility Is Far More Common Than It Really Is

Americans Think Upward Mobility Is Far More Common Than It Really Is
New research confirms that we overestimate our ability to advance "by a wide margin."
Eric Jaffe
February 2, 2015, 1:33 PM EST

The belief that enough hard work can and will result in getting ahead is still fundamental to American life, even if lately that equation feels shakier than ever. In reality, the chances of escaping poverty in the United States varies widely depending on where you live, and while overall social mobility trends have stayed relatively flat over time, the U.S. lags behind other developed nations in this department. And a new study has found that Americans could stand to be quite a bit more cynical about how often upwardly mobile class shifts actually occur.

I thought this was common knowledge
That bootstrap crap doesn’t work

 

[UpAndComing]

If you have that kind of smoke against him for handing out money to homeless people, I cannot fathom what you would have done against Jesus Christ when he was walking the earth over 2000 years ago.

Alot of people don't give money to the homeless for "pure" reasons

Alot (not all) give to the homeless as a form of a superiority complex. Y'all don't want them to take responsibility for their actions as a way to say, "Well damn, my life isn't going well, but at least there's homeless people I know I am doing better than"

Talking about the homeless is the GOAT virtue signal for alot of people. So you can pretend you are a good person

Because if the homeless take responsibility for where they are, you know there is NO REASON anyone on earth who is physically able bodied should be underperforming in life. Them rehabilitating their own life is a mirror faced towards you

 

[It is a mystery]

Think someone who has been a multimillionare and iconic brand for decades can relate to the struggles of a homeless person brehs.

Since I know jordans perspective, i get where hes coming from but TLR posters going this hard to cosign confuses me. I dont know if these posters realize this but in reality they are couple turns closer to that homeless person than they are to jordan.

 

[1LurkerChick9]

A lot of black people have been homeless and probably never even realized they fit the definition

Staying with fam while you or your parents get on their feet qualifies too

Maybe if people knew all the different “levels” to homelessness they would be more sympathetic