Jon Jones tests POSITIVE for COCAINE on the way to rehab......however he will retain title.

[TheDarceKnight]

Cacs are

, talking about Jon Jones should be stripped of his title and banned from the UFC

Yeah, people need to chill. People just really hate Jones. I've been in the camp that's said I enjoy his talents, but not his personality. I was a huge fan from the Bonnar fight up until the Rashad fight. I think I don't care anymore. Luke Thomas from SB Nation said something that really stuck out this week.

he was like "Look, if you want to get caught up in his disrespectful post fight interviews, or his DX crotch chops, or his personality, or the fact that he doesn't seem very genuine, I would urge you to think twice, because you're missing out. This is a once in a generation talent, and he'll be gone before you know it, because time flies, and athletic careers are short. You should enjoy this guy while he's here, because he's the best light heavyweight of all time, and on his way to being the GOAT, if he isn't already."

Not an exact quote, but it's close.

EDIT: Here it is. if the time code doesn't work, skip to 36 mins in

 

[Liu Kang]

That's interesting. I've heard doctors say that aside from the risk of death from overdose, that heroin, if used without IV/needle use, is actually doesn't actually cause physical harm to the body, besides addiction. I don't know if the risk of death from overdose is the big factor listing it at the top, or if it's including all of the risky behaviors that a heroin addicted person might be willing to engage in to get the drug. Honestly I was expecting alcohol at the top of the list.

I'm not a doc but Heroin like Morphine or Vicodin is an opioid and highly effective against pain. Morphine use in hospital is regulated (I think there is a limit per day to avoid dependence) and works well because it's the most efficient product against it. The docs who made the study explained their process which seemed pretty just.

Here are the tables of the study in the thread I created about it if you're interested :

Spoiler

Parameters

2007 status of the 20 assessed substances

Mean harm scores

Correlation between mean scores and addiction

Final classification

 

[thernbroom]

To be fair to the UFC. I think Riddle failed like several drug tests before fights, including at least 2 in a 7 month period. He's also not a draw, at all.

I'm not saying Jones shouldn't face any consequences, and in fact I think he should have to face some. But Riddle's point is a little silly. If Riddle is JUST trying to say that weed is considered a problem and cocaine isn't, then I agree on that. I definitely think coke would be way more of a PED than weed would. At the same time, taking his belt away is silly. he passed the post fight drug test (so I've heard), so he wasn't on coke during the fight. Plus, he won. At worst, wouldn't it be changed to a no contest? Belts don't switch hands on no contests, right?

The UFC could suspend him for 6 months and let it run concurrently with his rehab, which wouldn't keep him out of action long, make a statement that they are taking it serious, without losing their champion.

Back to Riddle's point about weed. Nick Diaz hasn't had that many bad consequences for weed. He's about to main event a card within a month. Again, he's a draw, and good for business. What's the worst that happened to him? He only had one fight changed from a win to a no contest, right? The gogoplata win over Takanori Gomi in '07? That was the fight of the year too.

well damn you should have been a lawyer

 

[Daniels]

Hopefully this gets deeper to expose that fakkit Dana White

 

[BujuBoombastic]

Disappointed to hear this. I hope Jon Jones don't go the Mike Tyson route. Glad he's getting help at this moment. White people made cocaine to destroy black people.

 

[RubioTheCruel]

Yeah, people need to chill. People just really hate Jones.

I wonder why.

Meanwhile everyone loves Chuck Liddell who was known to party

 

[TheDarceKnight]

well damn you should have been a lawyer

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but if you aren't then thank you

I've heard that before from people, but that ship sailed a long time ago.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Hum, Cocaine is actually more harmful than alcohol and tobacco. I'm all for ending the hypocrisy with drugs relatively to alcohol and tobacco but let's state facts gentlemen.

Thread (with sources and links) I made a while back about the matter : http://www.thecoli.com/threads/toba...-drugs-from-a-scientific-point-of-view.70142/

That's interesting. I've heard doctors say that aside from the risk of death from overdose, that heroin, if used without IV/needle use, is actually doesn't actually cause physical harm to the body, besides addiction. I don't know if the risk of death from overdose is the big factor listing it at the top, or if it's including all of the risky behaviors that a heroin addicted person might be willing to engage in to get the drug. Honestly I was expecting alcohol at the top of the list.

I'm going to disagree with this particular chart. Over the course of a lifetime, alcohol by far has the most damaging effects on the body than most substances. Some drugs present themselves quicker (like meth) but alcohol will have destroyed your body in more damaging ways than most. I'm not trying to discredit your post or anything breh. I just work is this field and deal with all the various studies that change as often as the wind blows. Im a CADC, NCRS specialist. I'm sure you could imagine why the powers that be would like you believe that alcohol isn't as damaging as it really is.

 

[Liu Kang]

I'm going to disagree with this particular chart. Over the course of a lifetime, alcohol by far has the most damaging effects on the body than most substances. Some drugs present themselves quicker (like meth) but alcohol will have destroyed your body in more damaging ways than most. I'm not trying to discredit your post or anything breh. I just work is this field and deal with all the various studies that change as often as the wind blows. Im a CADC, NCRS specialist. I'm sure you could imagine why the powers that be would like you believe that alcohol isn't as damaging as it really is.

You know better than me on the subject and I'm not the author of the study. But I don't think the study disagrees with you. Look at the next quote and its spoilers or the very thread if you're interested (http://www.thecoli.com/threads/toba...-drugs-from-a-scientific-point-of-view.70142/)

I'm not a doc but Heroin like Morphine or Vicodin is an opioid and highly effective against pain. Morphine use in hospital is regulated (I think there is a limit per day to avoid dependence) and works well because it's the most efficient product against it. The docs who made the study explained their process which seemed pretty just.

Here are the tables of the study in the thread I created about it if you're interested :

Spoiler

Parameters

2007 status of the 20 assessed substances

Mean harm scores

Correlation between mean scores and addiction

Final classification

Look at the chronic physical harm ranking :
Tobacco : 2.9/3
Heroin : 2.5/3
Alcohol : 2.4/3
Cocaine : 2.0/3

Heroin and Alcohol have almost the same value.

 

[Daniels]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/6...drug-test-failure-greg-howard-rumors-mma-news

"This doesn't come out of nowhere. In reporting this story, I heard a lot of rumors about Jones's cocaine use, some of which went past what you'd expect of a rich young celebrity in 2014. I left those alone partly because it's a long way from rumor to solid fact and partly because, as evidenced by his success, whatever he's been up to late at night hasn't hurt his athletic performance much. This is worth noting just by way of saying that this is more likely than not something that actually could affect his career, as opposed to the result of one night's bad decision. Just a few minutes ago, I got this text from a source close to Jones:Can't believe it took this long for jon to pop on coke."

 

[joeychizzle]

Posted on Dec 30th.. some brehs knew.

 

[Daniels]

Posted on Dec 30th.. some brehs knew.

 

[SCORCH]

The vid kills me

Barbosa

 

[semtex]

Posted on Dec 30th.. some brehs knew.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

It wasn't gonna sniff itself