"Joker: Folie a Deux" | sequel to "Joker" starring Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga

[2 Up 2 Down]

It's a comic book character in the Batman universe. The movie is literally called Joker and it takes place in Gotham. The director already ripped off Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy, he doesn't need to be teaching moral lessons to some losers on social media. It's not that serious, let the fans have fun and enjoy the ride.

Taking a serious grounded approach is what made the first film unique, imo.


This film aligns with what the first film actually was

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

No one thought he was going to be fighting batman. Maybe people just didn't want a musical with a shyt plot. Is that too much to ask for?

What direction would you had liked to see the movie take?

 

[valet]

Joker was just an act to hide behind and bring attention to himself.

Spoiler

when he was cross examining Puddles you saw he trying to keep up the act but breaking character. The illusions was further broken when he was listening to the younger guy in prison who was a joker follower being killed

Right don't you see how that can be disappointing. Particularly how Joker 1 ended?

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Right don't you see how that can be disappointing. Particularly how Joker 1 ended?

I think it comes down to expectation. I couldn't see Arthur getting out and doing more than what he did in this first movie. He was a symbol for people to act looney than him being an actual agent of chaos. Like people hiding behind a Guy Fawkes mask and wrecking shyt.
That's my interpretation, at least. We all draw our own from what we watch

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

What direction would you had liked to see the movie take?

Anything other than what we got would have probably been better. Not sure why this movie had no choice but to be a half ass musical.

 

[Luke Cage]

So he wasn't actually the Joker?

 

[Norrin Radd]

Arthur Fleck Was Never The "Real" Joker, Director Todd Phillips Confirms​

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Anything other than what we got would have probably been better. Not sure why this movie had no choice but to be a half ass musical.

Okay, how about what were your expectations for this movie?

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

Okay, how about what were your expectations for this movie?

Not to suck. To have a decent story. To not be annoying and a waste of time.

(I'm not a huge fan of the 1st movie. Liked it on 1st viewing but it's a boring watch).

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Going through the thread for a bit and I'm still unsure why people are rating it so poorly
Did y'all think he was going to be fighting Batman or something?

Oh we know exactly why….

Don’t get me started.

It’s some bullshyt too

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

So he wasn't actually the Joker?

Nope. Going by the third act, Arthur would've been inspiration for a copycat(s).

 

[Standing on business]

It's a comic book character in the Batman universe. The movie is literally called Joker and it takes place in Gotham. The director already ripped off Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy, he doesn't need to be teaching moral lessons to some losers on social media. It's not that serious, let the fans have fun and enjoy the ride.

Reminds me of when the new Star Wars creators wanted to Subvert expectations

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Not to suck. To have a decent story. To not be annoying and a waste of time.

(I'm not a huge fan of the 1st movie. Liked it on 1st viewing but it's a boring watch).

Come on, bruh. You can give a better answer than that.
Did you want more action? Big heist planning? More comic book like story?

 

[Luke Cage]

the saw how well the mandorin twist in iron man 3 went and decided , lets draw out the same twist over two entire movies.

 

[Luke Cage]

almost feel like this is grounds for a lawsuit. people paid to see the joker, not some dude he may have been inspired by.