John Kerry Sh!tting On Britian Appreciation

[Robbie3000]

they didn't use that argument for invading iraq. they argued a connection between al qaeda (a connection that was never even remotely verified) and the development of nuclear/chemical arms - which, to this day, have not been located. we have evidence that syria just gassed thousands of innocents. intelligence agencies from britain, israel, and the us confirm this. we have the videos of the dead and inspectors who have confirmed that chemical agents were used in the massacre.

this is entirely different, and any attempt to argue similarities between gwb and obama in this regard is laughable on its face. i'm not an obama apologist, but i'm not going to just sit here and accept specious links between the clear lies peddled by the bush administration and obama's response to a recent chemical warfare attack by syria.

Let me ask you a question. How come we have been silent when 100,000+ people have been killed by conventional weapons, but when chemical weapons are used to kill 400 people now we are outraged? Not to mention that we don't know who actually used chemical weapons.

I don't get it. It's seems highly arbitrary especially in light of our complicity in Iraq's use of chemical weapons during the Iran-Iraq war in the 80s. Or our use of agent orange in Vietnam.

Like Bush said, Fool me once......I can't be fooled again.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

CHEMICAL WEAPONS CAN LEAD TO MORE UNINTENDED CIVILIAN CASUALTIES, BROTHER! THOUGH IN THIS CASE, I DON'T THINK THE USER IS CONCERNED WITH THAT AT ALL, DUDE!

 

[kermit da hustla]

Let me ask you a question. How come we have been silent when 100,000+ people have been killed by conventional weapons, but when chemical weapons are used to kill 400 people now we are outraged? Not to mention that we don't know who actually used chemical weapons.

I don't get it. It's seems highly arbitrary especially in light of our complicity in Iraq's use of chemical weapons during the Iran-Iraq war in the 80s. Or our use of agent orange in Vietnam.

Like Bush said, Fool me once......I can't be fooled again.

because conventional weapons are part of conventional warfare, which is governed by specified rules of engagement as laid out in international treaties. chemical weapons are forbidden. their use is a violation of international law. that is why obama doesn't even NEED congressional approval, though he's decided to get it.

the use of chemical weapons is playing dirty. it's cheating. they also kill massive amounts of people without any real exertion of combat resources. that's why they are banned.they're also quite mobile, unlike thousand pound bombs, which makes their receipt and use by "terrorist" organizations a clear threat to national security.

 

[Robbie3000]

because conventional weapons are part of conventional warfare, which is governed by specified rules of engagement as laid out in international treaties. chemical weapons are forbidden. their use is a violation of international law. that is why obama doesn't even NEED congressional approval, though he's decided to get it.

the use of chemical weapons is playing dirty. it's cheating. they also kill massive amounts of people without any real exertion of combat resources. that's why they are banned.they're also quite mobile, unlike thousand pound bombs, which makes their receipt and use by "terrorist" organizations a clear threat to national security.

So countries can commit atrocities using conventional means but when chem weapons are used to kill .01% of casualties suddenly we have an issue?

The chemical weapons stance is just an excuse for the US to intervene in a Civil war. (Even though we don't have evidence that it was Assad who used the weapons)

What about our complicity in the use of chemical weapons in the Iraq-Iran war?

Our past leaves us very little room for moral grand standing on this issue.

 

[Wargames]

They are using EXACTLY the same rhetoric. Damn attention spans are low. How old are you? Do you not remember them saying that Saddam gassed and killed his own people and they had evidence. They had more evidence of that than they do in this case. Who knows who used what? Where is the definitive evidence? Was it the gov't? The rebels? Israel? WHO did what and when? Also Obama wants to go launch missiles to show strength. No boots on the ground my ass.

Why destabilize that whole region? What's the purpose other than being an Israeli stooge? They have been trying to push into war with Syria for damn near a year now. Research everything before you post man.

To be fair Saddam did Gas his own people. We just didn't give a fukk about it until Bush used that fact to promote his war years after the gassing actually went down.

 

[Firefly]

To be fair Saddam did Gas his own people. We just didn't give a fukk about it until Bush used that fact to promote his war years after the gassing actually went down.

I said that in the statement you quoted. We probably supplied him with the gas too.

 

[Firefly]

You can't say Bush lied but Obama isn't lying.

Fam, you left out the gassing of the Kurds in your response. That was one of the reasons they used to invade Iraq.

They tried to mount as much evidence as they could and presented all of that intelligence publicly. They had a stack of evidence. Couldn't find the weapons fast enough so Bush kicked the UN out.

Plain and simple this is about Israel pulling the puppet strings and Obama trying to defend his manhood because "a line was crossed"

The plan is to take out Iran. Syria is a step in that direction.

Also I don't just listen to democrats same way I don't just listen to republicans. I hear what both sides say and then research on my own.

All these presidents do is lie. It's why they are hired.

You're foolish if you aren't smart enough to realize that. England backed out because they know the intelligence is faulty. We lost our moral authority in regards to that because BUSH fukked up. This is another price we're paying. The world is looking at us and saying "they wanna police other countries, nation build, tell other people what to do and their economy is in shambles, the government takes off more days than they actually work and Obama's promise of hope and change is more of the same."