John Kerry Sh!tting On Britian Appreciation

[Type Username Here]

France is America's oldest ally though, considering this country exists in this form due to French intervention (you could also argue that the French would have ended this experiment if the French-Indian War outcome [via Seven Years War] was different). They were also the second country to recognize the US an independent state.

 

[Shogun]

France is America's oldest ally though, considering this country exists in this form due to French intervention (you could also argue that the French would have ended this experiment if the French-Indian War outcome [via Seven Years War] was different). They were also the second country to recognize the US an independent state.

to be fair they only supported the revolutionaries to bust England's balls. Our relationship has always been tenuous since, ever throughout the world wars.

 

[Calmye]

ommiting any mention of britain from his speech while lavishing praise on france calling them america's "oldest ally"

if you know the history, that not so subtle swipe against the brits was just

you should have seen the butthurt articles coming from the UK media. they were acting like a jealous ex-girlfriend

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...iated-British-seeks-support-strike-Syria.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...in-face-as-he-calls-France-oldest-allies.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...k-with-help-of-our-oldest-ally...-France.html
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I don't think we should go in Syria but this is political either at its best

 

[Type Username Here]

to be fair they only supported the revolutionaries to bust England's balls. Our relationship has always been tenuous since, ever throughout the world wars.

For sure, but like the saying goes:

I don't care if the cat catches the mouse because he's hungry or because he's sadistic, as long as the mouse is gone.

All countries have up and down relations, especially when you're talking about the span of hundreds of years (thousands for others). Look at Japan-US relations. Hell, look at Vietnam-US relations now.

But the US and France share many similarities aside from just warfare though. A lot of culture has been exchanged. The French Revolution and Constitution was influenced by what the US did.

Plus they share one of the true OGs of all time: Lafayette. A man who was an integral part of two revolutions (American and French), wrote the draft for the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen (one of the greatest documents ever written by man), and one of the most hardlined, outspoken critics of slavery (he wanted total worldwide abolition of it).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_du_Motier,_Marquis_de_Lafayette

 

[Calmye]

American was doomed the day it ceased to have a connection to the Monarch.

shyt like this makes me wish we would of let Hitler take you tea drinkers heads off. You faq smokers could never old our dikk as we take a piss. We belled your weak minded country out to many times to county now you turn your back I don't agree with this strike in Syria but Britain should have not tutned there back on us. They will regret it

 

[kermit da hustla]

its crazy to see Kerry justifying the attack on Syria in the same exact way he shytted on the Bush administration for justifying Iraq. These politicians are soulless

This analogy you people attempt to draw between gwb's pretext for invading Iraq and Obama's appeal to the international community regarding Syria is flimsy at best, and deceitful at worst. The evidence demonstrating syria's deployment of chemical arms against innocents is strong and fairly definitive. To this day, the pre-Iraq war argument fails to survive even basic scrutiny.

 

[Shogun]

This analogy you people attempt to draw between gwb's pretext for invading Iraq and Obama's appeal to the international community regarding Syria is flimsy at best, and deceitful at worst. The evidence demonstrating syria's deployment of chemical arms against innocents is strong and fairly definitive. To this day, the pre-Iraq war argument fails to survive even basic scrutiny.

you people?

 

[ZEB WALTON]

france is americas oldest alley, they helped us defeat the brits

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

The OP is one stupid fukk. Any person with a modicum of intelligence should ignore this thread. Especially when pro war hawks like the TS are too scared to fight in any war, but extremely quick to champion more war moves by the US.

Disgusting.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

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The OP is one stupid fukk. Any person with a modicum of intelligence should ignore this thread. Especially when pro war hawks like the TS are too scared to fight in any war, but extremely quick to champion more war moves by the US.

Disgusting.

Son you're too scared to get on a podcast

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

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Son you're too busy to get on a podcast

fixed

How am i too scared to get on a podacast I helped create?

 

[Firefly]

This analogy you people attempt to draw between gwb's pretext for invading Iraq and Obama's appeal to the international community regarding Syria is flimsy at best, and deceitful at worst. The evidence demonstrating syria's deployment of chemical arms against innocents is strong and fairly definitive. To this day, the pre-Iraq war argument fails to survive even basic scrutiny.

They are using EXACTLY the same rhetoric. Damn attention spans are low. How old are you? Do you not remember them saying that Saddam gassed and killed his own people and they had evidence. They had more evidence of that than they do in this case. Who knows who used what? Where is the definitive evidence? Was it the gov't? The rebels? Israel? WHO did what and when? Also Obama wants to go launch missiles to show strength. No boots on the ground my ass.

Why destabilize that whole region? What's the purpose other than being an Israeli stooge? They have been trying to push into war with Syria for damn near a year now. Research everything before you post man.

 

[kermit da hustla]

They are using EXACTLY the same rhetoric. Damn attention spans are low. How old are you? Do you not remember them saying that Saddam gassed and killed his own people and they had evidence. They had more evidence of that than they do in this case. Who knows who used what? Where is the definitive evidence? Was it the gov't? The rebels? Israel? WHO did what and when? Also Obama wants to go launch missiles to show strength. No boots on the ground my ass.

Why destabilize that whole region? What's the purpose other than being an Israeli stooge? They have been trying to push into war with Syria for damn near a year now. Research everything before you post man.

they didn't use that argument for invading iraq. they argued a connection between al qaeda (a connection that was never even remotely verified) and the development of nuclear/chemical arms - which, to this day, have not been located. we have evidence that syria just gassed thousands of innocents. intelligence agencies from britain, israel, and the us confirm this. we have the videos of the dead and inspectors who have confirmed that chemical agents were used in the massacre.

this is entirely different, and any attempt to argue similarities between gwb and obama in this regard is laughable on its face. i'm not an obama apologist, but i'm not going to just sit here and accept specious links between the clear lies peddled by the bush administration and obama's response to a recent chemical warfare attack by syria.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

britain is our fukking lap dogs....cameron will find a way to help somehow if we go through with this...


but I want no part of Syria....let them figure it out....we can't be the world police.

 

[Type Username Here]

Honestly, the evidence and coalition for the Iraq War shyts on this Syrian Intervention that Obama is kicking up.

In the Iraq War, there was THIRTY countries that put boots on the ground. We have TWO countries right now that are saying they MAY use force. THIRTY and TWO.

We had actual evidence that Saddam at one point used chemical weapons on the Kurds and he initially wanted to use it on the Iranians. We also had multiple intelligence agencies say that Saddam had WMDs. This is about the level we are at now in Syria.

The two are VERY comparable. The only difference this time would be us helping Al Qaeda instead of fighting them.