John Hopkins: 2700+ died in the last 24 Hours In The U.S.

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Bruh her literal quote was "if someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death."


I don't see how that can be "misrepresented" as anything other than exactly what she said.
So you are saying you only believe he quite
Bruh her literal quote was "if someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death."


I don't see how that can be "misrepresented" as anything other than exactly what she said.
You are misrepresenting it because you are taking part of a quote and exchange and misrepresenting it they asked follow up questions and her and Dr Fauci responded . Then they spent the next day going over it in interviews
They literally go into that point you keep trying to make
-Can you talk about your concerns about deaths being misreported by coronavirus because of either testing or standards for how they’re characterized?

DR. BIRX: So, I think, in this country, we’ve taken a very liberal approach to mortality, and I think the reporting here has been pretty straightforward over the last five to six weeks. Prior to that, when there wasn’t testing in January and February, that’s a very different situation and unknown.

There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition and let’s say the virus caused you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem — some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.

Right now, we’re still recording it, and we’ll — I mean, the great thing about having forms that come in and a form that has the ability to mark it as COVID-19 infection — the intent is, right now, that those — if someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death.

Q Are you — can you be sure — I mean, you hear from coroners that that’s not necessarily the case. Are you sure? How can you be confident about that? And is there any concern that it skews the data that you’re trying to collect, in terms of projections and things like that?

DR. BIRX: Well, I think that would apply more to rural areas that may not have the same level of testing. But I — I am pretty confident in New York City —

DR. FAUCI: Yeah.

DR. BIRX: — and in New Jersey and places that have these large outbreaks and COVID-only hospitals, I can tell you they are testing. New York and New Jersey together have — by proportion, are testing extraordinary well — as Washington State and Louisiana. So, I don’t see that there’s been a barrier in testing to diagnosis.

DR. FAUCI: No. I — I think there’s so much focus now on coronavirus that — particularly if you take New York, which we all know is — is having a disproportionately higher proportion of the burden of the entire country is right now in New York.

No, I can’t imagine if someone comes in with coronavirus, goes to an ICU, and they have an underlying heart condition and they die — they’re going to say, “Cause of death: heart attack.” I — I cannot see that — that happening. So I don’t think it’s going to be a problem.
 

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So you’re saying people who are catching covid are dying of pneumonia? They’re dying of all kinds of things, no one drops dead from corona they die from a compromised immune system. Just like they always do
Breh, if covid 19 accelerates someone's pre existing conditions to the point they end up dying prematurely, then they died from covid19.

Clearly you didn't understand brehs point about aids and pneumonia. AIDS isnt what kills people, it compromises the immune system to the point where you cant fight off shyt like pneumonia, the aids dont cause the death, but it plays a significant role in bringing about death.

Just like covid19, it doesn't have to be the direct cause of death to be linked to that death.

And a pneumonia outbreak did shut the world down.
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Ever hear of the Spanish flu??
 

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So you’re saying people who are catching covid are dying of pneumonia? They’re dying of all kinds of things, no one drops dead from corona they die from a compromised immune system. Just like they always do
I’m saying pneumonia isn’t as simple as you are making it to be and same with AIDS . You would of been better off trying the flu as a comparison
 

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Breh, if covid 19 accelerates someone's pre existing conditions to the point they end up dying prematurely, then they died from covid19.

Clearly you didn't understand brehs point about aids and pneumonia. AIDS isnt what kills people, it compromises the immune system to the point where you cant fight off shyt like pneumonia, the aids dont cause the death, but it plays a significant role in bringing about death.

Just like covid19, it doesn't have to be the direct cause of death to be linked to that death.

And a pneumonia outbreak did shut the world down.
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Ever hear of the Spanish flu??

Is it really that worse than the flu tho? If those statistics are inflated let’s say wouldn’t 2700 people have died today weather they tested positive for covid or not.

ya I’ve heard of Spanish flu it came from military vaccinations :umad:
 

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I think people are dying, I’m not sure I believe they’re dying at a higher rate than a bad flu season, at least not enough to close down the world
2017-2018 was the worst flu seasons since 2009's swine flu. A ballpark of 61,000 people died in 17-18 from the flu over a six month period starting in October 2017 and ending in April 2018. We're losing 2k a day and we're already at 47,000 after just one month and that's with shutting shyt down and social distancing. This shyt is running circles around the flu.
 

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Lol like they have those 24hr figures
They can separate heart disease, and cancer from covid deaths in 24hrs?

Yes breh, these are directly-reported numbers coming straight from the hospital level due to the nature of the pandemic. No estimates or shyt, when a COVID patient dies the hospitals report that death and it gets added. Some of the states are reporting quickly and some slowly, but basically all the numbers are getting in within 16-18 hours of the end of the day in most cases.

You can't juelz your way out of this shyt.
 

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If a death is directly caused by complications of the virus such as the pneumonia onset or it exacerbates the pre-existing condition which results in death then that should be considered a COVID death.

Now if a COVID positive person died from an unrelated diabetic seizure/stroke well that shouldn't be counted as a COVID death. Still, I don't think there are enough of those instances to really skew the numbers at the moment.
 

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2017-2018 was the worst flu seasons since 2009's swine flu. A ballpark of 61,000 people died in 17-18 from the flu over a six month period starting in October 2017 and ending in April 2018. We're losing 2k a day and we're already at 47,000 after just one month and that's with shutting shyt down and social distancing. This shyt is running circles around the flu.
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I’m done you guys have the same response every time. You can’t say 47 000 when most of those deaths aren’t covid related, so the realistic number is probably more like the 17-18 flu
 

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Is it really that worse than the flu tho? If those statistics are inflated let’s say wouldn’t 2700 people have died today weather they tested positive for covid or not.

ya I’ve heard of Spanish flu it came from military vaccinations :umad:
It might be worse than the flu, the biggest threat is that it could completely crash our medical system if we let it get outta control, which is a point a lot of yall don't understand.

Let say we just said fukk it. How much deaths do you think we'd be doing if we never shut shyt down. How much do you think our healthcare industry can handle before completely collapsing on itself?

Yall keep arguing that shutting shyt down was a huge mistake, so I honestly want to know how solid yall think our healthcare system is in this country.
 

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Not trusting then numbers...


They admitted time and time again they are juicing the numbers but y’all call us conspiracy theorists.
They are saying every death is from the coronavirus. Obviously the coroners arent going to do autopsies to confirm it.
i also they prob cooling the numbers... but that doesn't take a away the fact that this is serious
exactly so 2700 people died from coronavirus in the past 24 hours is bullshyt

2700 people who TESTED POSITIVE for corona died in the past 24 hours.

So how accurate is the testing? Would all of these people (or a very large %) have died of their underlying medical conditions if they tested positive for seasonal flu?
The White House doctor already admitted this didn't she? Like on national TV? They out here cookin' the books right in front of our eyes.
At the end of the day...y’all always talking about facts and whatnot and they are assuming people died of the Rona while trying to pass it off as fact. You can’t have it both ways...you can’t say you trying to fight mis-information when u putting out bullshyt yourself.
I think people are dying, I’m not sure I believe they’re dying at a higher rate than a bad flu season, at least not enough to close down the world

The misinformation and ignorance is really pissing me off. They are UNDERCOUNTING the deaths. Do you understand? They are not "juicing the numbers" because not enough testing has been done, they are MISSING cases by the thousands.

In NYC during a normal day in March/April there are about 145 deaths/day. This year since March 11 there have been over 600 deaths a day. That's almost 500 extra deaths EVERY DAY. As of April 18 there had been 17,200 more people than normal that had died in the city alone. Yet only 13,000 coronavirus deaths were counted in NYC. How da fukk are y'all explaining those extra 17,200 deaths? And what do you think is causing those extra 4,000 deaths above and beyond the coronavirus totals, when the flu season is already over and virtually no one is testing positive for flu? There are far MORE coronavirus deaths than we've counted, not less.

25,000 Missing Deaths: Tracking the True Toll of the Coronavirus Crisis
 
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