“John from Ronkonkoma” dictates football in NYC

[tremonthustler1]

Geno played until Geno sucked? So he had a team constructed to win a Super Bowl from the day he got the starter job?Geno was the reason y'all didn't win? I'll put it this way: if Sam Darnold got hurt at the end of training camp and you guys had EJ Manuel as the backup and he got y'all two wins (that's all Fitz had to do to steal Geno's job) would EJ get to finish the season as the starter?I use him as an example because as Jets fans you knew exactly what Fitz was bringing to the table(as a former Bill), yet were more than willing to give him the keys over a guy who never got a chance to prove what he could do with genuine talent around him

Oh there were bigger issues than Geno and Reb, myself, and others lamented the fact that Geno didn’t get a chance to have a full year with the weapons Fitz had. I think Geno had moments bad enough to where fans didn’t think the roster had anything to go forward with (turned out to be true. Our longest tenured guy is a guard from 2013 who nobody would mind cutting if there weren’t more pressing needs)

Geno didn’t have the same level of investment Darnold has now and Fez had before him. Darnold hasn’t yet the point where fans throw in the towel on his ceiling. Once they do, they’ll give up on him also.

 

[NYC Rebel]

And why did those fans do that?

Below you make excuses for cacs giving a dead qb two extra seasons

Because Geno's rep was trash before he even got to the Giants. Why is that? Because an equally racist organization and fanbase made it that way. To act like people hated on Eli being sat because a black QB was the replacement is silly. The black QB in question was being slandered on the daily in the same town. If you can't understand how ridiculous the message you're sending sounds based on the team you root for, there are no words to explain the lack of awareness. The owner of your team for years made personnel decisions based on getting the backpage of the Post. John from Ronkonkoma is more likely to be a miserable Jets fanI'm still trying to figure out how me pointing out the hypocrisy of your statement counts as a defense of the Giants organization, btw

Who cares about Geno’s history? I spoke on what happened during and after his start. How Eli was given extra life as a result.

What are you responding to?

Meanwhile youre deflecting and going “both sides are just as bad” when im speaking on what transpired post his start.

The fukk is wrong with you? Why is your reading comprehension so shytty?

 

[obarth]

Oh there were bigger issues than Geno and Reb, myself, and others lamented the fact that Geno didn’t get a chance to have a full year with the weapons Fitz had. I think Geno had moments bad enough to where fans didn’t think the roster had anything to go forward with (turned out to be true. Our longest tenured guy is a guard from 2013 who nobody would mind cutting if there weren’t more pressing needs)

Geno didn’t have the same level of investment Darnold has now and Fez had before him. Darnold hasn’t yet the point where fans throw in the towel on his ceiling. Once they do, they’ll give up on him also.

Tre, you know Darnold will get at least four more years even if y'all are middling at best in that division. I'm not going to act like his talent isn't obviously better(and his draft stock warrants more patience), I'm just hoping you see how it might seem weird hearing this message about racist fans when I'm a NYer that knows how Geno got treated. It's a case of the messenger, not the message

 

[NYC Rebel]

Tre, you know Darnold will get at least four more years even if y'all are middling at best in that division. I'm not going to act like his talent isn't obviously better(and his draft stock warrants more patience), I'm just hoping you see how it might seem weird hearing this message about racist fans when I'm a NYer that knows how Geno got treated. It's a case of the messenger, not the message

Who disputed that? How does that make anything about what happened after Geno’s start false?

 

[obarth]

Below you make excuses for cacs giving a dead qb two extra seasons



Who cares about Geno’s history? I spoke on what happened during and after his start. How Eli was given extra life as a result.

What are you responding to?

Meanwhile youre deflecting and going “both sides are just as bad” when im speaking on what transpired post his start.

The fukk is wrong with you? Why is your reading comprehension so shytty?

You're speaking about what happened during and after because you know how ridiculous talking about what happened before would make you look. You talked down @Pack2 point about how Webb being the replacement would have been recieved differently. He was making a valid point. Davis Webb was an unknown commodity. Geno wasn't. Geno was received differently because of how your team and fanbase treated him thus informing people in the same state what to expect. I know you're smart enough to get exactly where I'm coming from but instead goal posts continue to be moved.

 

[NYC Rebel]

You're speaking about what happened during and after because you know talking about what happened before..

No...why does before matter?

ANSWER THIS...yes or no

So what happened with Geno BEFORE matters as much as the decisions the Giants made on Eli AFTER his start?


Make ME LOOK?

Its the Giants that LOOK stupid doing a 180 around Eli AFTER geno’s start.

Im GOOD.

My GOD youre an idiot.

 

[obarth]

No...why does before matter?

ANSWER THIS...yes or no

So what happened with Geno BEFORE matters as much as the decisions the Giants made on Eli AFTER his start?


Make ME LOOK?

Its the Giants that LOOK stupid doing a 180 around Eli AFTER geno’s start.

Im GOOD.

My GOD youre an idiot.

The funny thing is your capitalizing all these words and calling me all types of idiot, yet have been battling a strawman. Who here has denied the Giants blatant racism? There was no 180 on Eli. Geno was not the guy who would be allowed to break Eli's streak. Benching Eli was a product of his poor performance. Geno being the guy to bench Eli for, and break his starting streak in the process, was not gonna fly. They have yet to replace him with someone fans are confident in. Why would fans be confident in Geno Smith after seeing him labelled a horrible QB during his tenure with the other team in town? If all Giants fans heard was how shytty Geno was, why would we think he should be a fitting replacement? So, yes, what happened before Geno got here is pertinent to how the Giants treated him and Eli.

 

[NYC Rebel]

The funny thing is your capitalizing all these words and calling me all types of idiot, yet have been battling a strawman. Who here has denied the Giants blatant racism? There was no 180 on Eli. Geno was not the guy who would be allowed to break Eli's streak. Benching Eli was a product of his poor performance. Geno being the guy to bench Eli for, and break his starting streak in the process, was not gonna fly. They have yet to replace him with someone fans are confident in. Why would fans be confident in Geno Smith after seeing him labelled a horrible QB during his tenure with the other team in town? If all Giants fans heard was how shytty Geno was, why would we think he should be a fitting replacement? So, yes, what happened before Geno got here is pertinent to how the Giants treated him and Eli.

Again...this isnt about being confident in Geno. The point is, why would Giants fans and their front office be confident in ELI AFTER Genos start, enough ti go into the next season and build around him?

You dont answer that.

Have you read the thread title?

Arent the Giants living in the after Genos start reality NOW?

Now its just “Giants fans” NOT the racist dirtbag fans youre protecting.
Youre not only an idiot, youre a c00n.

You NEVER see me defend racist Jets fans like youre doing the Giants.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

nikka, you know if some Clippers fans made a thread accusing the Lakers and their fanbase of racism you'd be in here shytting on them since they rocked with Donald Sterling for yearsThis is intra-city sports talk, fam
But to your point, doe:

The end of your post is alls I’m saying. Racist or not it’s a funny. It’s becoming the football version of frfr....

 

[obarth]

Again...this isnt about being confident in Geno. The point is, why would Giants fans and their front office be confident in ELI AFTER Genos start, enough ti go into the next season and build around him?

You dont answer that.

Have you read the thread title?

Arent the Giants living in the after Genos start reality NOW?

Now ifs just “Giants fans” NOT the racist dirtbag fans youre protecting.
Youre not only an idiot, youre a c00n.

The majority of Giants fans aren't confident in Eli as the starter. The front office is settling for Eli while building a team around him. The majority of Giants fans are confounded by that. The majority of Giants fans are not happy about the Daniel Jones pick. Nothing I've said hints at any confidence in the Giants front office and management. I've been calling out how hypocritical it is to hear this message from someone that roots for a certain team. Keep calling me whatever you want. I get it. That's how you argue. When in doubt, rile up the other person. Imma keep replying and see how much further you move the goal posts.

 

[obarth]

The end of your post is alls I’m saying. Racist or not it’s a funny. It’s becoming the football version of frfr....

These cacs out here in NY be on some other shyt. I was hoping the Giants took a look at Teddy Bridegwater last season. Black Giants fans been calling out the organization

 

[NYC Rebel]

The majority of Giants fans aren't confident in Eli as the starter. The front office is settling for Eli while building a team around him. The majority of Giants fans are confounded by that. The majority of Giants fans are not happy about the Daniel Jones pick. Nothing I've said hints at any confidence in the Giants front office and management. I've been calling out how hypocritical it is to hear this message from someone that roots for a certain team. Keep calling me whatever you want. I get it. That's how you argue. When in doubt, rile up the other person. Imma keep replying and see how much further you move the goal posts.

None of what you posted above has anythjng to do with:

1. Giant fans doing a 180 on Eli after Geno’s start.
You outright left out what happened after Genos start and leapfrogged from 2017 to 2019 to move goalposts to Daniel Jones.

Thats YOU moving time and space

2. Ignoring the fact that the new FO saw that 180 and built around El the next two seasons
Goal post moving?

Geno BEFORE his start -@obarth
Drafting Daniel Jones in 2019 - @obarth

Me: thread title and staying on it

 

[AntoineWalkerShimmy]

"Ok, John from Merrick you're on da Fan, what's goin on?"

"HEY MIKE, FUS'T TIME LONG TIME. ANYWAYS......WES WELKER, FREE AGENT. GOOD HARD NOSED PLAYAH. WE TRADED THAT BASKETCASE ODELL AWAY, WHAT'S TO SAY WE CAN GET WELKER IN GIANT BLUE TO FILL THE WR SPOT? I'LL HANG UP AND LISTEN"

"Uhhhh....furstofvall, Wes is retired. Ok. Secondly uhhhh, I don't think he fits dis so called "rebill" that Gettleman keeps selling da fans on"

 

[obarth]

None of what you posted above has anythjng to do with:

1. Giant fans doing a 180 on Eli after Geno’s start.
You outright left out what happened after Genos start and leapfrogged from 2017 to 2019 to move goalposts to Daniel Jones.

Thats YOU moving time and space

2. Ignoring the fact that the new FO saw that 180 and built around El the next two seasons
Goal post moving?

Geno BEFORE his start -@obarth
Drafting Daniel Jones in 2019 - @obarth

Me: thread title and staying on it

Breh, you insulted my reading comprehension and then stayed in true form by being hypocritical and not reading. I replied to this alleged 180. Giants fans wanted a change at QB before and after the benching. We still want a QB change. We aren't happy about the moves the front office has made. Being happy about having Saquon does not mean we liked the QB position or the future of it. You made a deep dive forgetting how silly it looked based on who your root for and you're fighting hard as hell to justify it. John from Ronkonkoma dictated what your team does as well. Your team's owner made decisions based on getting the backpage of the NY Post. See? I'm talking about the thread title.

 

[AntoineWalkerShimmy]

"Benny from Deeya Pahk yah'ron"
"Yeah, hello?"
"Benny, yeah, yah'ron. Whatcha got"
"Yeah, Mike, Idunno whats all da fuss is about. Ya look at the Jones kid, I mean cmon look at him, hes a football playa. He can play on my team any day. Let da Redskinz have Baskins....
"Its Haskins Benny but gah'hed"
"Right, Haskins. Baskins aint gonna be nothin in dis league. We seen dees kinda guys before. Know whatta mean? Run around and get hurt kinda guy"
"Well he doesnt run much Benny"
"Yeah but I don't see football smahts with this guy. Jones got smahts written all ova his face"

Nah this one took me out cause this is how legit half the cac callers are on the show