Joe Rogan: fukk Zelensy and the Ukrainian people

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Honestly, I don't fully understand all the geopolitical consequences of Russia taking over Ukraine. But here's what I've heard:
  • NATO not only provoked Russia, but purposefully broke an agreement and crossed a red line even considering Ukraine joining NATO
  • Ukraine exports a large amount of the world's grain
  • Ukraine was going to come to agreement with Russia and end the war, but some NATO countries blew up that deal and the war continued.

So if Russia takes over Ukraine, then they will have a monopoly on the world's grain supply. But also, it will be NATO's fault.

So what did I miss?
This is one of the most bullshyt copout statements I've seen here. NATO or not, Russia planned to take Ukraine back just like jhyna wants Taiwan. fukk an agreement, they already annexed part of the country :mjlol:

I get not giving a fukk about Ukrainians, but fukk siding with bytchass Putin
 

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A lot of people here agree. Without any understanding of international relations/affairs.

Politicians have done a poor job justifying the billions spent on Ukraine to the American people.

It's cool to say "you're too ignorant to understand" but that doesn't help someone who is struggling here in America and trying to accept aid being given to foreigners.
 

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Politicians have done a poor job justifying the billions spent on Ukraine to the American people.

It's cool to say "you're too ignorant to understand" but that doesn't help someone who is struggling here in America and trying to accept aid being given to foreigners.
I can't say I care about people who refuse to educate themselves on issues and just make assumptions based on feelings.
 

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Politicians have done a poor job justifying the billions spent on Ukraine to the American people.

It's cool to say "you're too ignorant to understand" but that doesn't help someone who is struggling here in America and trying to accept aid being given to foreigners.
That money is a drop in the bucket compared to what the gov spends on defense. I don’t see people up in arms about that shyt. I look at that money as investment that the US is gonna cash out on in the future. Look at the damage the Ukrainians have done to the Russian military without the US putting any boots on the ground. Russian military is a joke and would get wiped off the face of the earth they were up against the US.
 

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coli cares more about ukraine than sudan, eritrea and somalia
The coli cares about what the state department tells them too.


None of these posters who run defense for Ukraine or Israel or any other
Ally of the US are even remotely bringing up the Genocides in Africa, the assassination
attempts on the leader of Burkina Faso from the west or really anything "Black".
 

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Take your ass to Ukraine and go help them then :mjtf: .


Because WE DON'T CARE.
Ukraine falls to Russia. Russia gets embolden to go deeper into Europe (Poland) because his goal is to re-establish the old Soviet Union. Eventually Putin tests both the European Union + NATO. Article 5 of NATO says if you attack 1, you attack all which means automatic war and a cost of US lives.

Even though a law was passed last year preventing the United States from withdrawing from NATO, that doesn't mean he won't try because he wanted to last time. Either the United States stays in NATO and Trump sabotages them in ways that are beneficial to Russia. Or Trump actually succeeds somehow in withdrawing from NATO which would have serious economic consequences for the United States. The United States would also be less safe because they would have less access to international intelligence and information sharing.

But hey, let's ignore that and only look at everything in black and white based on emotions because it makes use feel better.
 

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One other thing, Ukraine willingly gave up its nukes after the USSR broke up for a security agreement. Terrible look if we bailed on them again especially after Russia took Crimea
 

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Ukraine falls to Russia. Russia gets embolden to go deeper into Europe (Poland) because his goal is to re-establish the old Soviet Union. Eventually Putin tests both the European Union + NATO. Article 5 of NATO says if you attack 1, you attack all which means automatic war and a cost of US lives.

Even though a law was passed last year preventing the United States from withdrawing from NATO, that doesn't mean he won't try because he wanted to last time. Either the United States stays in NATO and Trump sabotages them in ways that are beneficial to Russia. Or Trump actually succeeds somehow in withdrawing from NATO which would have serious economic consequences for the United States. The United States would also be less safe because they would have less access to international intelligence and information sharing.

But hey, let's ignore that and only look at everything in black and white based on emotions because it makes use feel better.

You aren't wrong, but this is to complex for the everyday citizen. The average person can't comprehend shyt beyond gas prices and their salary.

Being able to forsee where these dominos falling will eventually lead us is just not something you can expect from nikkas on the coli. :manny:
 
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