Joe Montana calls Marino the BOAT qb

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I understand completely.

Randy Moss is the best WR in the history of football to me. However, Jerry Rice would be considered the greatest.

If my team needed to win a big game, I'm taking Moss all day, every day.

Same goes for Pedro Martinez as a starting pitcher to win Game 7 of a World Series

:mjlol: tossing accolades aside Randy is still not a better receiver than Jerry
 

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Mahomes is more talented imo.
By a long shot!!! Mahomes is not going 20/49 with 2 ints in the AFC title game with a chance to return to the SB. Well at least Marino beat the 85 Bears....in a regular season game..
 

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:mjlol: tossing accolades aside Randy is still not a better receiver than Jerry
He said he would take Randy in a big game? Hahahahaha!! The same Randy who got shutdown by Jason Sehorn in the 2000 NFC title game? The same Moss who didnt do much during the 2007 Patriots playoff run? Didnt he drop a td vs ATlanta on the 98 NFC title game thst enabled the Falcons to come from behind and win?
 

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Yeah, there was a big difference in the Chargers, especially defense, from 79’ to 81’.

Kellen Winslow was still a rookie in 79’ and was yet to revolutionize the TE position. He missed more than half the season. The Chargers had all-Pro John Jefferson though.

They had a highly ranked defense in 79’ and lost in the playoffs to a Houston team missing both Earl Campbell and Dan Pastorini. Football reference has Houston as 8 point underdogs

In 80, Winslow emerged as they still had John Jefferson, but their defensive ranking (per points allowed) went from 2 to 18.

Then in 81’, their defensive ranking went all the way down to 26 (of 28 teams). It doesn’t appear the weather would have made a difference, as Cincinnati beat SD in SD in the regular season 48-17. Cincinnati looked like simply a better team.

I know Dan Fouts did place a lot of blame on himself in the Freezer Bowl though, and said Ken Anderson badly outplayed him and said he was impressed at how Ken could throw in that type of cold.

It appears SD’s best chance was 79’ and they blew that one against a badly compromised Houston team.
This wss an awesome post. It deserves to be underscored.
 

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Dude was Chris Chandler the second half of his career, yet hes the GOAT based on 4 years in the 80's?? Its laughable to me.
Yet year after year Joe Montana and others still put him as the best passer ever, which has annoyed you on this board for years.

Notice how you ride me saying Brady is the smartest qb ever giving love eyes.

Anyone not dikk sucking Brady to your level is a problem to you
 

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Yet year after year Joe Montana and others still put him as the best passer ever, which has annoyed you on this board for years.

Notice how you ride me saying Brady is the smartest qb ever giving love eyes.

Anyone not dikk sucking Brady to your level is a problem to you
You truly are an insufferable dude. You worried about a fukking smiley?? Weak as hell. I did that because I couldnt believe you actually gave him a morsel of respect. I dont need your approval about Brady..I was genuinely shocked that an incorrigible hater such as yourself, actually attempted to complement someone who he has hated on for 23 years. Best passer is an archaic designation. In the 80's, yeah, but he has long since been passed up. Thats why it annoys me..its some ancient bullshyt. It would be like someone saying that Rocky Marciano is the best heavyweight ever when several boxers have long since passed him. You calling me a dikkrider for stating facts? Lets look at the difference. Im taking up for a guy who has been minimized and derided for years as being overrated, a product of his coaches and the system, downplaying his championships, even lying about Drew Henson starting over him in college(which he never did) , numerous ppl.have said.many QBs couldve won 6 SBs and likely more if they were in his place. While Marino has been praised as a phenom and the greatest passer for almost 3 decades and his losses were excused to poor supporting casts and out of date coaching. So who is the biggest "rider", the guy who incessantly praisesna guy whose skills and talent have always been championed, or me defending a guy who has demeaned as much as any NFL player, ever?
 

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Yet year after year Joe Montana and others still put him as the best passer ever, which has annoyed you on this board for years.

Notice how you ride me saying Brady is the smartest qb ever giving love eyes.

Anyone not dikk sucking Brady to your level is a problem to you
Talking about a fukking smiley, lol..as if that begrudging comment changes how I feel about you being a hater. Not acknowledging facts is female behavoor. Not admitting when you are wrong is how females conduct themselves. My uncle is a Raider fan who hated Brady more than anyone, he stopped that shyt about a decade ago. So giving someone his just due is dikkriding? So why watch sports if recognizing greatness is so botheersome to you?
 

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You truly are an insufferable dude. You worried about a fukking smiley?? Weak as hell. I did that because I couldnt believe you actually gave him a morsel of respect. I dont need your approval about Brady..I was genuinely shocked that an incorrigible hater such as yourself, actually attempted to complement someone who he has hated on for 23 years. Best passer is an archaic designation. In the 80's, yeah, but he has long since been passed up. Thats why it annoys me..its some ancient bullshyt. It would be like someone saying that Rocky Marciano is the best heavyweight ever when several boxers have long since passed him. You calling me a dikkrider for stating facts? Lets look at the difference. Im taking up for a guy who has been minimized and derided for years as being overrated, a product of his coaches and the system, downplaying his championships, even lying about Drew Henson starting over him in college(which he never did) , numerous ppl.have said.many QBs couldve won 6 SBs and likely more if they were in his place. While Marino has been praised as a phenom and the greatest passer for almost 3 decades and his losses were excused to poor supporting casts and out of date coaching. So who is the biggest "rider", the guy who incessantly praisesna guy whose skills and talent have always been championed, or me defending a guy who has demeaned as much as any NFL player, ever?
There’s zero insufferable about me. You know I know my football. If you say Brady is the best, you won’t see me spending time tearing it down or say no. I don’t have the energy nor do I care enough. I’m perfectly fine with people, saying Brady is the best because he’s done enough to lend itself to that. but the dikk riding you do when somebody says or feels that Marino is the best and anything short of sucking off Brady is sacrilege, that’s a you problem.

I am more than secure in my understanding of football to give two shyts about your feelings. No one gets their feelings more about Brady on this page than you. I do not have worship for any athlete to that degree. Like I said… Go argue with Joe.

I’ve likely seen Tom Brady perform in front of me more times than you have in your lifetime. And I can’t dikk ride him or any athlete like that.
 

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There’s zero insufferable about me. You know I know my football. If you say Brady is the best, you won’t see me spending time tearing it down or say no. I don’t have the energy nor do I care enough. I’m perfectly fine with people, saying Brady is the best because he’s done enough to lend itself to that. but the dikk riding you do when somebody says or feels that Marino is the best and anything short of sucking off Brady is sacrilege, that’s a you problem.

I am more than secure in my understanding of football to give two shyts about your feelings. No one gets their feelings more about Brady on this page than you. I do not have worship for any athlete to that degree. Like I said… Go argue with Joe.

I’ve likely seen Tom Brady perform in front of me more times than you have in your lifetime. And I can’t dikk ride him or any athlete like that.
Thats your little go to..how the fukk I am I dikkriding by stating facts? Me going at Dan has nothing to do with Brady. I am sincerely asking how a player who peaked in his 6th year can still be called the greatest, when better QBs have come along. You and your vitriol for Brady made it the focal point of this discussion, not me. I dont have an agenda or ulterior motives. I dikkride Brady more than anyone? How often do I make threaads about Brady? You are such a hypocrite, that its insane..do you think before you type? You are saying I "worship" Brady, yet you started a thread "worshipping" Marino. So you can praise your guy, but I cant defend mine? Theres not a man alive in life who can make me feel insecure about anything or anybody, so you can get on with psuedo, Sigmund Freud shyt. You refuse to believe others have surpassed your teenage hero, when it is obvious to anyone with eyes, that several have. You are haughty, condescending and self righteous. This isnt psycho analysis, this is palpable within your posts. Grown ass man getting upset calling ppl dikkriders for asking legitimate points. Im the emotional one, yet you introduced name calling into the discussion? I live in Detroit, you live in NY. I would think you wouldve saw Brady play more than me in person. Im pretty sure that I saw Barry Sanders play more in person than you. Cool..If and when Mahomes passes Brady, I wont be here or anywhere fighting it, I will give him.the adoration and admiration he deserves. Im done with this discussion. It literally amazes me that the only conflict we have ever had is about Brady.
 
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People that worship titles to Judge individual players in team sports gonna be big mad :bryan:

QB is the most dependent position in sports, but all the credit to winning Super Bowls is almost exclusively given to the QB. It is maddening indeed….
 
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