He makes mad good points about ownership ... and I was like "Eh fukk puffy" kind of ... until he explained that Puff is trying to middleman YOU a bag with his connections, and set you off on a path
I always knew he didnt hate EM ... but what he's saying makes sense too... Eminem runs his ship, his own way.... which is fine. But that makes sense that Budden wants to know, exactly what the budget is and how much the return is... not just an allowance and a role from Shady Records. Thats just smart business in 2020. No slight to either person at all.
The MJ and Prince thing had another meaning too. Because Joe speaks on how he has been a Prince fan, and Prince fought for his rights... Then "died" right as he got them... so negotiations at the starting line would cancel out alot of "mysterious" shyt from happening if you already go into a situation owning yourself. They cant seize control of you in any form if you already made the agreement that you are the sole beneficiary to your work. That was a very simple gem he just dropped really. He says it alot of the podcast too about how he's only moving for his brand and getting out of music because he's made more from podding basically than waiting for people to buy albums and tour. It was apparent when he was on Complex that he was chasing the bag elsewhere and then he took more money. But being 100% your own cash cow and owner while establishing your friends and brand is priceless.