Joe Budden: "Beating Drake wasn't a one man job. I passed the baton to Push, and Push passed the baton to Kendrick"

[Artificial Intelligence]

And there it is. Joe putting himself in the middle of something that has nothing to do with him. Narcissistic down to the letter.

He right tho

 

[nieman]

Joe has ZERO to do with any of this.... Nobody gave a fukk about his disses.

But you can't say this. If you were hip-hop, you cared. By that token, most of the dis records in history no one cared about, if we're going by scale of the artists. So, Canibus 2nd Rd KO is irrelevant. Life is on the Line is irrelevant in real time, and only mattered some 5-6 years later.

So what I'm hearing is that because they weren't popular, and even though they registered with the target (Drake), to the point he was hurt...after calling Budden his idol and such for years...these disses don't count. I thought this was a hip-hop board.

So we might as well throw out every single dis record, aside from Ether/Takeover and Hit Em Up/Bomb First.

 

[5n0man]

Nah he came in the game sounding like a Phonte clone

It wasn't corny, paragraph response to a podcaster. He expressed the same sentiment on that French Montana song with the "pump, pump pump it up" bar

Again, I was one of those 450 dudes (in spirit )

Drake himself said he was trying to rap like Joe Budden in terms of flow and content.

 

[lightskin jermaine]

Joe talking like Drake is Thanos. Ol we did it ass nikka.

 

[Cuban Pete]

Nig inserted himself on the slick, pause, . Negro if you don’t sit your podcast face ass down somewhere, this man is delusional/shameless, .

Push definitely showed he can bleed, no question…his shhit hit and was effective. You can say that was the pebble that started the avalanche but even that’s kinda false because Drake thrived and shhitted and was still Drake after that, nothing changed. Kendrick fukked his entire shhit up tho, this shhit is different, nothing will be the same..

I gotta humbly disagree, it wasnt a kill shot for sure but it definitely cracked the armor that was built around Drakes invincibilty post-Meek and when he was slapping around Kanye, Cudi, Tyga, and a whole slew of other rappers in those years.

Pusha at most went gold with Clipse and has a dedicated stan base (myself included) but he showed the fukk out against a legnedary run like Drake, funny enough he couldve kept quiet and let Wayne take that fall but his guilty conscience after fukking Weezys girl made him frontline like he was Beanie Sigel









Aside from Adidon and Infrared which are direct shots, 23:1 Exodus has to be on top 3 subliminal diss record ever. That shyt had Young Money SCRAMBLING, and after Adidon Drake was on Brons podcast sounding more hurt than Hov on Angie

 

[re'up]

Have to respect that kind of a stretch LOL that kind of delusional narrative crafting

but that's classic Joe

and it's not entirely untrue.

 

[HabitualChiller]

I mean, he's not wrong in that it wasn't a one man job.

From what it sounds like, a gang of níggas came through to help Kendrick with dirt.

 

[Kinguno]

On one hand I want to clown Joe but on the other hand...it can't be a coincidence that each iteration of Drake disses - including Meek's - included similar themes and lines of attack. But in order to get the job done on a mass scale it had to come from a bigger artist with a bigger platform. who was prepared to rumble. Hitting Drake with a barrage of disses (Budden), leaning on the psychoanalysis of Drake's character as a means of offense AND defense (Pusha). Meek wise he learned from his mistake: there were no yes men in Kendrick's corner, his team kept it 100 and clearly helped him craft his strategy and responses.

I think that comes from psychoanalysis of Drake but pretty much projection. Like When Drake said started from the bottom you the listener were supposed to apply it to your life but if you were a hater then it’s like what’s he talking about he’s rich and was on degrassi. Drake was making music where you feel like how he would but in his level.

When it comes to Joe,Kendrick, Meek, and Pusha and Kanye most of the people who hate Drake a lot of it is Jealousy and envy.

For example Kendrick and the Control verse. It was a great verse but like at the end you really wanted Drake to dikk ride your shyt? If any thing it’s Big Sean fault that the samples didn’t get cleared. But after that any interview Kendrick or Top Dawg was calling Drake sensitive.

I also blame J Cole for making boring music so instead of there being a big three it really became Drake vs Kendrick because when it’s Coke vs Pepsi who cares about Dr.Pepper.

In 2024 looking back so many rappers that weren’t Drake self sabotaged themselves or they never really hit enough to garner attention on his level from Wale, Big Sean, Meek, Rick Ross, and others that’s why they aren’t as legendary as Jay, Nas,Tupac, Em, or even a TI.

I’d like to think all these guys love hip hop and they all have stories of who inspired them. Tupac is basically hip hop Jesus for Good or Bad. So hating on anybody for being a fan of him makes me think less of them because like that’s Hip Hop Jesus. Having an item touched by him is an artifact. Kendrick is jealous he doesn’t have Tupac’s ring.

The DMX shyt was bad and that was him on drugs later Drake used his lines and put money in that man’s pocket. DMX died a crackhead. Nobody was playing any of his albums post 2004.

My argument is Drake didn’t do shyt to mess with his run like go to jail or fukk himself up with Drugs or label issues or bytches So in a way a lot of the competition had nobody to blame but themselves so they hated.

Post SoundCloud in this streaming era you need to put music out and with how trends move so fast three years without a project is disrespectful to your core audience especially when we are past the days of when everyone would just drop a freestyle on what ever got song was out. The Awards happen at the same time of the year so if you must the deadline it’s like you not even the league.

They weren’t in the gym aka the studio. If Drake was as bad as his haters say then why is Kendrick’s victory such a big deal it shouldn’t mean anything because Drake is such a fraud is what they saying and it takes away from Kendrick and from Hip Hop even more because then if the battles don’t matter, the lyrics don’t matter, the moments don’t matter, the awards don’t matter it really means hip hop can’t matter anymore.

 

[Formerly known as...]

Also up until recently Joe and Drake used to speak via messages right? Sure they had some sort of relationship up until recently and Drake then dissed him on one the bonus tracks from 'For my Dogs '

 

[Diondon]

Drake only beat Meek cause Meek is a bumbling idiot

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

I mean, he's not wrong in that it wasn't a one man job.

From what it sounds like, a gang of níggas came through to help Kendrick with dirt.

Just like Drake had a gang coming up with his disses

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

Drake only beat Meek cause Meek is a bumbling idiot

Meek was right

 

[HiiiPower]

Drake only beat Meek cause Meek is a bumbling idiot

This, drake let the whole world gas him up after beating a fukking idiot like meek then got embarrassed worldwide on 2 Seperate occasions by 2 mc’s that really rap

 

[Diondon]

Meek was right

He was. Was the first one to call Drake out on the ghost writers
Just not sharp enough upstairs to follow through and execute
Didn't help neither that Ross stayed neutral but hey

 

[Conan]

Drake himself said he was trying to rap like Joe Budden in terms of flow and content.

He did a horrible job at it.

Has anything Drake released sounded like Mood Muzik 1-3 in flow/content?

He was much closer to Phonte IMO.