Joe Biden selects Senator Kamala Harris as his VP Pick

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I’ll entertain this one. When you say “ppl” who do you mean?

As far as a case. Let’s just look at the reality of the situation as of July 11:

  • She has a long history with Biden and Obama and worked particularly close with Biden when he was Veep
  • She’s supper accomplished outside of not previously holding a political office.
  • Based on that the fact she is being mentioned in non-opinion piece articles and making surrogate appearances this close to the reported Aug. 1 announcement, she clearly in the picture as a serious candidate. They wouldn’t have her mentioned or appearing if she wasn’t.
Point being people can debate the idea but at this stage of the game she has to be squarely in the discussion.

Is that anything that couldn’t be said for Kamala Harris as well?

And by people, I mean Black populace.
If she was picked and announced, all the opposition would need is
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And the Democratic Party would be basically BEGGING majority of Black people not to vote in the upcoming election
 

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Is that anything that couldn’t be said for Kamala Harris as well?

And by people, I mean Black populace.
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Well you said she doesn’t have a case even over Kamala and now you say that the same could be said Kamala. So which is it? She can’t not have a case and then have a similar case unless you are saying Harris doesn’t have a case either. Regardless my point is that she is clearly a finalist as best we logically know as of today.

Saying the majority of likely black voters wouldn’t vote because of her seems to be a bit of a reach. Just a little hyperbolic. Will some people not vote for that ticket? Of course. By any measurable amount that can be quantified? Unlikely and not also likely it much different than the perceived downside of everyone else in contention.
 
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I think its down to Harris, Warren and Duckworth. Susan Rice and Val Demings are on the B list. Susan Rice wlll likely be Secretary of State. Val Demings should either run for Governor, or Rubio's Senate seat in 2022.
Why do you think Rice is on the B list?
 
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Why do you think Rice is on the B list?
Biden answered a question today on his VP choice. He said he is looking for someone that doesn't have the same skillset he has and can add something to make them more well rounded. He said the reason Obama choose him as VP was because he had foreign policy experience and relationships in Congress to get things passed. Both were things Obama didn't have. Biden said this time he could pick someone without foreign policy experience because he has that skillset. So based on that theory Susan Rice would be eliminated quickly and Elizabeth Warren would be the best to balance that.
 

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I don’t think that eliminates her actually. Her foreign policy background would allow Biden to focus more on domestic issues which are frankly more pressing. Considering their history you know they would be in lock step on that front. She’s probably more experienced than him foreign policy wise actually and at worst they overlapped within Obama the administration.

Either way her stock on this has risen too much relative to the selection date for her to be on the secondary list IMO.
 

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Well you said she doesn’t have a case even over Kamala and now you say that the same could be said Kamala. So which is it? She can’t not have a case and then have a similar case unless you are saying Harris doesn’t have a case either. Regardless my point is that she is clearly a finalist as best we logically know as of today.

Saying the majority of likely black voters wouldn’t vote because of her seems to be a bit of a reach. Just a little hyperbolic. Will some people not vote for that ticket? Of course. By any measurable amount that can be quantified? Unlikely and not also likely it much different than the perceived downside of everyone else in contention.

The bolded is my point. It would take too much effort to “legitimize” Susan Rice to Black people when someone like Trump or Tariq Nasheed can say Rice’s son is a Trump supporter so that could be connected to her husband being a “Republican/Trump supporter” so voting for Rice is like voting for a “Democratic Trump”.

Just can’t see Black Men being enthusiastic to support a Biden-Rice ticket. With Kamala, at least she has more name recognition, doesn’t have any MAGA-CAC kids, and has attacked Trump as a senator.
 

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The bolded is my point. It would take too much effort to “legitimize” Susan Rice to Black people when someone like Trump or Tariq Nasheed can say Rice’s son is a Trump supporter so that could be connected to her husband being a “Republican/Trump supporter” so voting for Rice is like voting for a “Democratic Trump”.

Just can’t see Black Men being enthusiastic to support a Biden-Rice ticket. With Kamala, at least she
I think that sentiment is over played but as I’ve been saying the last few posts, “look at the dates”. Rice isn’t all of the sudden being discussed in the media and doing surrogate appearances for no reason.

I understand brehs opposition, I don’t agree but I see the point. That said I think we are past the “ideals” portion of writing off pretty much the top
known Veep candidates.
 

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I think that sentiment is over played but as I’ve been saying the last few posts, “look at the dates”. Rice isn’t all of the sudden being discussed in the media and doing surrogate appearances for no reason.

I understand brehs opposition, I don’t agree but I see the point. That said I think we are past the “ideals” portion of writing off pretty much the top
known Veep candidates.
New posters continue to pop up having issues with Susan having a MAGA white supremacist son yet you keep downplaying it.

Picking Rice would be a self inflicted wound period
 

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New posters continue to pop up having issues with Susan having a MAGA white supremacist son yet you keep downplaying it.
I’m not down playing it. I said I don’t agree but I get the point.

So are you saying she is not in contention by those making the selection? Are you saying she’s not in contention because of that?
 

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I’m not down playing it. I said I don’t agree but I get the point.

So are you saying she is not in contention by those making the selection? Are you saying she’s not in contention because of that?
I’m saying picking rice would be a self inflected wound. She brings nothing material to the table that the other candidates couldn’t bring without the MAGA baggage
 

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If Demings is the pick we're going to see a lot the skeletons in her closet from her time as police chief come out:

When Val Demings Stood by Police Officers Accused of Excessive Force



She defended a cop who broke an 84 year old's neck and a cop who pushed a woman down the stairs of a nightclub. :picard: Any police chief is going to have baggage that will be picked apart by BLM and the left. Is that the smartest pick in a time during this national argument about police reform?
 

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I’m saying picking rice would be a self inflected wound. She brings nothing material to the table that the other candidates couldn’t bring without the baggage
I respect your opinion. That said for where we are right now she’s in the last group. Some (not all) are making it seems like she can’t be picked because of her son or interracial marriage which isn’t really wise. So to say she doesn’t have a case doesn’t really make sense when we know she’s being considered with the last month of the selection process.
 
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