Jesse Willams just spit that pro black fire on the BET Awards
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The Devil's Advocate
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Yes they are
Like I've been saying. If we gonna go by dna and technicality. Yes. They are. They are a quarter white
If we going by what the black community considers. Nah they black. We don't care about percentages. Obama is black to the black community
you can quote me a millions times and it wont change that he isn't black and is instead a biracial.
a biracial has a black parent and a white parent. Obama isn't white, he is biracial (half black/ Half white but not black), his wife isn't white, she is black.
↓R↑LYB
I trained Sheng Long and Shonuff
So, scientifically-speaking, you are able to re-gain blackness so long as any white genes in your lineage are removed by a couple of generations?
So taking Jesse Williams and his family for example...
Because Jesse is mixed, his kids can't be black even though they have a black mother. Thus, their kids are mixed.
And even if their kids procreate with "full black people," their kids cannot be black because Jesse is mixed. So, Jesse and his wife's grandchildren are mixed.
If Jesse's grandchildren, however, procreate with other "full black people", they finally will reach the scientific measurement for blackness because that'll mean there was no white blood for a couple generations and that scientifically makes them black. UNLESS all "cac relatives" have NOT YET died off. If Jesse's mother is still alive, these kids will still be considered "mixed" or "other" but most certainly not "black." But once all cacs have died, we can have a pure black race, again.
That about right?What journal is this scientific analysis published in? I would like to learn more.
I'd recommend subscribing to the Duckberg Institute for Genetic Research newsletter. They have many scholarly articles discussing the issue in depth
Birnin Zana
Honorary Wakandan
Can a black person come from a biracial womb
Isn't that how the #RealBlack formula work
Was simply correcting the dude I was quoting. Nothing more, nothing less.
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I trained Sheng Long and Shonuff
This thread is fukking sad on both sides.
Ironically, people in here are doing white supremacy's bidding by using colorism to detract from an impactful and relevant message regarding white supremacy and our community's need to combat it with: 1. identifying the issue (white supremacy), 2. implementing renovated standards of individual and collective behavior, and 3. pooling our resources (read: capital) together and investing in black businesses and forums for the betterment of our community. OK, yes, dude is biracial and the son of a white woman. Yes, he's light-skinned. Yes, he has blue eyes. And, yes, he enjoys more privileges than 90% of people who identify as black could ever imagine to enjoy. But it's not his fault that he is who he is. Moreover, dude has put in YEARS of work to bring about racial awareness so, if nothing else, he has a genuine concern for the black community. Focus on the message, not the messenger.
With that said, people in here are performing mental gymnastics that would make Dominique Dawes' head spin 100x over. First of all, Mr. Williams' speech is HARDLY unique nor novel. He didn't say anything that Toussaint L'Overture, Marcus Garvey, Frederick Douglass, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr., Huey Newton, Khalid Muhammad, Dr. Boyce Watkins, Sistah Soulja, and countless other activists, scholars, and prominent figures in our community have said decades and centuries ago. Hence why many people are rightfully questioning why people on social media, particularly black women, are gagging on Jesse Williams, with some publications and forums even going so far as to hype him up to be the "new face" of the black community. :GhostfaceStare:It's time for action, not uplifting yet ultimately empty rhetoric. It's appalling that in 2016, we still have some of us who needed to hear Mr. William's speech to FINALLY acknowledge that white supremacy is real.
Which leads to my next point: whether you want to admit it or not, MUCH of the hype surrounding Mr. Williams' speech is because he's a light-skinned biracial dude with blue eyes that panders to black women. This all goes back to the mass media's imposition of light-skinned/biracial individuals as the face of blacks in certain spaces. People are really denying the fact that he benefits from his biracial background and looks and that white-owned BET is conducive in the mass media's efforts to superimpose white, Eurocentric standards as the most valuable and desirable traits in our community. You better believe that it was a calculated decision by BET to allow a light-skinned, biracial man who panders to black women to talk about the black community's issues. This was another mechanism to breed complacency in our community. And this was allowed so that we can fall for the same okie-doke of talking a big game instead of DOING what needs to be done. Meanwhile, white supremacy will continue to erase our black faces, our black voices, and our black history in order to destroy our community and rebuild it on their terms and definitions of "black." Don't be surprised if more Jesse Williams look-alikes start becoming the faces of the black community, Don't be surprised when 5, 10, 15 years from now, black won't be black but will be mulatto and biracial. Some of y'all need to connect the dots and understand that reality.
Finally, if you're not putting in work in your community or building your own resources and properties, stop trying to knock people who are. He may not be black but Mr. Williams is certainly an ally of the black community. Just like white supremacists employ c00ns, sambos, mammies, and bedwenches to aid their efforts, we can employ non-blacks in our fight against white supremacy, so long as we keep it black first and retain our history, our leaders, and our wealth and resources.
Ironically, people in here are doing white supremacy's bidding by using colorism to detract from an impactful and relevant message regarding white supremacy and our community's need to combat it with: 1. identifying the issue (white supremacy), 2. implementing renovated standards of individual and collective behavior, and 3. pooling our resources (read: capital) together and investing in black businesses and forums for the betterment of our community. OK, yes, dude is biracial and the son of a white woman. Yes, he's light-skinned. Yes, he has blue eyes. And, yes, he enjoys more privileges than 90% of people who identify as black could ever imagine to enjoy. But it's not his fault that he is who he is. Moreover, dude has put in YEARS of work to bring about racial awareness so, if nothing else, he has a genuine concern for the black community. Focus on the message, not the messenger.
With that said, people in here are performing mental gymnastics that would make Dominique Dawes' head spin 100x over. First of all, Mr. Williams' speech is HARDLY unique nor novel. He didn't say anything that Toussaint L'Overture, Marcus Garvey, Frederick Douglass, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr., Huey Newton, Khalid Muhammad, Dr. Boyce Watkins, Sistah Soulja, and countless other activists, scholars, and prominent figures in our community have said decades and centuries ago. Hence why many people are rightfully questioning why people on social media, particularly black women, are gagging on Jesse Williams, with some publications and forums even going so far as to hype him up to be the "new face" of the black community. :GhostfaceStare:It's time for action, not uplifting yet ultimately empty rhetoric. It's appalling that in 2016, we still have some of us who needed to hear Mr. William's speech to FINALLY acknowledge that white supremacy is real.
Which leads to my next point: whether you want to admit it or not, MUCH of the hype surrounding Mr. Williams' speech is because he's a light-skinned biracial dude with blue eyes that panders to black women. This all goes back to the mass media's imposition of light-skinned/biracial individuals as the face of blacks in certain spaces. People are really denying the fact that he benefits from his biracial background and looks and that white-owned BET is conducive in the mass media's efforts to superimpose white, Eurocentric standards as the most valuable and desirable traits in our community. You better believe that it was a calculated decision by BET to allow a light-skinned, biracial man who panders to black women to talk about the black community's issues. This was another mechanism to breed complacency in our community. And this was allowed so that we can fall for the same okie-doke of talking a big game instead of DOING what needs to be done. Meanwhile, white supremacy will continue to erase our black faces, our black voices, and our black history in order to destroy our community and rebuild it on their terms and definitions of "black." Don't be surprised if more Jesse Williams look-alikes start becoming the faces of the black community, Don't be surprised when 5, 10, 15 years from now, black won't be black but will be mulatto and biracial. Some of y'all need to connect the dots and understand that reality.Finally, if you're not putting in work in your community or building your own resources and properties, stop trying to knock people who are. He may not be black but Mr. Williams is certainly an ally of the black community. Just like white supremacists employ c00ns, sambos, mammies, and bedwenches to aid their efforts, we can employ non-blacks in our fight against white supremacy, so long as we keep it black first and retain our history, our leaders, and our wealth and resources.
It'd be nice if OP updated the link to the full vid
lol why are yo responding to that idiot? The simple fact people dont understand what "BI" means is pathetic.
avon barksdale
i want my corners
Questioning the Blackness of someone biracial who identifies as Black and takes a stand for social issues that will benefit Black people is the epitome of splitting hairs and pettiness.
luciddreamer
All Star
Im starting to think expansion of the internet wasn't such a good idea....the cons are starting to far outweigh the pros.
50 pages
... Is this debate really that deep? You ask any average white person and that man is obviously a black man to them....he would've been hanging on the same branch as any other negroes in 1910, so why the division here?
No wonder Caucasians can sit back and build an empire on our backs, because were finishing what they started with all the inhouse fighting...
And the same message goes to all the sistas that passive aggressively use this speech to get at brothas...(not downplaying the message) but this message is nothing new so why the sudden uproar for it.... this media age society is getting more deplorable by the minute.
50 pages
... Is this debate really that deep? You ask any average white person and that man is obviously a black man to them....he would've been hanging on the same branch as any other negroes in 1910, so why the division here? No wonder Caucasians can sit back and build an empire on our backs, because were finishing what they started with all the inhouse fighting...
And the same message goes to all the sistas that passive aggressively use this speech to get at brothas...(not downplaying the message) but this message is nothing new so why the sudden uproar for it.... this media age society is getting more deplorable by the minute.
This man is potentially sacrificing his career to stand up for people who have two black parents, and yet yall are really questioning his allegiance because he has one black parent??
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