Jermaine Dupri Responds To Puff : I’m in the Songwriters Hall Of Fame, Something He can’t pay for”

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No one is talking about how they acted or rapped, I said this was about looks - clothing, god damn. I don’t have to be from there to know what look I was seeing in the damn videos and magazines

it’s like y’all purposely don’t read replies to keep arguing shyt no one is arguing. Anyone with ears knows they weren’t the same type of music and anyone with eyes saw the difference in demeanor

Hi, I'd like to introduce you to this wonderful thing called the internet lol. 98% of arguments carry on because someone is blatantly ignoring the point. Exercise in futility.
 

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Teddy Riley was doing rnb/hip hop remixes in the same vein as Diddy in 91? Aight fam. lol. Teddy was still on New Jack Swing in that time frame. lol
Teddy Riley produced two of the remixes on what’s the 411 album…like really produced. Not diddy produced


You’re strangely rewriting music history to credit diddy with damn near everything created from 91-98…even that weirdo @Razzay ain’t cappin that hard
 

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Hi, I'd like to introduce you to this wonderful thing called the internet lol. 98% of arguments carry on because someone is blatantly ignoring the point. Exercise in futility.
No. Shorty was being disingenuous and changed the argument mid argument. If u read all of it u wouldve known that. We mentioned how people who came before Onyx was biting Onyx when they dropped. Posted an example of Run DMC biting Onyx. She refused to acknowledge it and SHE brought up Black Moon, Naughty By Nature, Das EFX etc etc to make her point that Run DMC wasn't biting Onyx. I responded and said "why u mention a bunch of groups that are stylistically nothing like Onyx or eachother to make a point?". She then said they were aesthetically the same. I told her they didnt carry themselves anything like eachother and I asked her does she think every east coast artist at the time looked alike or were the same or some shyt cause in NYC there was a clear difference in how those groups carried themselves. She then posted a pic of how they were dressed. I then posted video in motion to show her that they weren't alike stylistically much at all even in the way they carried themselves. SHE doubled back and spoke on the way they were dressed. Which had nothing to do with the point in the first place.
 

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That was based on the aesthetic. Had no clue onyx was writing for them in which case it’s not biting - you’re literally working with/paying another artist to give you a sound. Guess every artist to use a ghostwriter is biting the writer, not working with the writer.

No. Shorty was being disingenuous and changed the argument mid argument. If u read all of it u wouldve known that. We mentioned how people who came before Onyx was biting Onyx when they dropped. Posted an example of Run DMC biting . She refused to acknowledge it and SHE brought up Black Moon, Naughty By Nature, Das EFX etc etc to make her point that Run DMC wasn't biting Onyx. I responded and said "why u mention a bunch of groups that are stylistically nothing like Onyx or eachother to make a point?". She then said they were aesthetically the same. I told her they didnt carry themselves anything like eachother and I asked her does she think every east coast artist at the time looked alike or were the same or some shyt cause in NYC there was a clear difference in how those groups carried themselves. She then posted a pic of how they were dressed. I then posted video in motion to show her that they weren't alike stylistically much at all even in the way they carried themselves. SHE doubled back and spoke on the way they were dressed. Which had nothing to do with the point in the first place.
my reply is right there, I switched up nothing - stated I was talking about looks as I didn’t know onyx was writing for them and went on to say why it wasn’t biting. But like I said, y’all don’t read in an attempt to keep arguing

absolutely nothing about bringing up all those groups was based on sound - that makes zero sense. I know their music and sounds and they’re not similar, what does make sense is exactly what I stated - looks

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Teddy Riley produced two of the remixes on what’s the 411 album…like really produced. Not diddy produced


You’re strangely rewriting music history to credit diddy with damn near everything created from 91-98…even that weirdo @Razzay ain’t cappin that hard
Im not crediting Diddy with anything but specific things. I said the way he handled REMIXES. That's about it. So wtf are u talking about? I even said JD was more talented than Diddy. I said the battle with Diddy/JD wouldve been more fun to watch than Diddy/Dre. And furthermore. If u peep my post history on Diddy in general. I criticized that muthafukka ALOT. But I been making simple points in this thread. When it comes to the hip hop shyt. JD aint really fukkin wit Diddy. I spoke on why Dre, Timbo, and Diddy might look at JD a certain way. Only one rewriting history is YOU because u been all thru this thread denying straight up proven facts. Even down to the last convo we just had. U denied JD biting Snoop for Da Brat despite him HIMSELF admitting he modeled her after him. I mean. I don't get it. I hate that I even have to be in here defending Diddy of all people but nikkas take shyt too far in both directions. JD has a MONSTER catalog and so does Diddy. Most of all. Both have a PARTY catalog. So it would be a DOPE verzuz if people got out of they feelings.
 

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my reply is right there, I switched up nothing - stated I was talking about looks as I didn’t know onyx was writing for them and went on to say why it wasn’t biting. But like I said, y’all don’t read in an attempt to keep arguing
U wrote that literally after the argument was already in place. After u started arguing facts. So... What are u saying here? Are u gonna disregard all of the shyt u said prior?
 

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U wrote that literally after the argument was already in place. After u started arguing facts. So... What are u saying here? Are u gonna disregard all of the shyt u said prior?
What! :mindblown:

That’s literally why I mentioned those groups breh, he posted a pic of run dmc looking like onyx saying they bit them - as someone who didn’t know they were writing for them I thought he was talking aesthetics/look thus I named multiple groups from that era who had the same look.. Had I known he posted that pic based on sound, I wouldn’t go that route - how does that even make sense? Don’t play me, cuz you know god damn well I wouldn’t be comparing their sounds
 
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