Has Da King ever been wrong about anything?
“The marks are now in the ring” - Da King
Jericho: Da King Is Right, Matches Don't Matter. Personalities, Character - That's All That Matters
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Has Da King ever been wrong about anything?
“The marks are now in the ring” - Da King
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Keepin' it 100
From two years ago:
No fukking shyt he needs to slow down. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that.
Meaning Shawn Michaels is not top 50.
NYChase718
Veteran
Roman reigns just oozes charisma
Roman reigns just oozes charisma
He’s actually over with the casuals (maybe only Kang, Stephanie and Ronda could say the same) because he’s a legit looking play fighter
"It's not supposed to be good!"
-Vince McMahon
I remember when the story that quote came from first popped up on here and I quoted that one line in huge font bold letters like 5 times.
I think it was his reaction to someone saying his idea for what was basically a retired wrestler royal rumble wasn't going to be a good match. In his mind as long as Hacksaw Jim Duggan or whomever got the crowd to pop cause he showed up. People were entertained.
Nowadays it's more who has "The Look" or has pull with casual non-wrestling fans than it is how great your matches are. But WWE has always been about "The Show" first, and in-ring performance second. It didn't hurt when your best in ring characters were decent in the ring, but I digress.
Contrast WWF's Rock n' Wrestling through the Monday Night Wars with NWA/WCW. Or even the territories. You had colorful characters over here, you had borderline flabby dudes in colorful trunks over there. 9 times out of 10, if they got swiped by WWF they'd become a character. The Red Rooster. The Texas Tornado. The Big Boss Man. The Million Dollar Man. The Undertaker.
I wanna say "you can't always have one without the other and it work", but I'm not a casual. I'm a mark who doesn't watch the program. I'd rather watch flippy shyt and chinese wrestling where I don't understand the commentators.
I have no idea what a filthy casual likes.
Maybe us marks need to shut the fukk up about the product and go watch what we like.
edit: sorry for this mini article (
holy shyt didn't we call these long winded posts "Titantrons" on another message board? Oh, the irony). I'm waiting for the meds and vodka to kick in.
-Vince McMahon
I remember when the story that quote came from first popped up on here and I quoted that one line in huge font bold letters like 5 times.
I think it was his reaction to someone saying his idea for what was basically a retired wrestler royal rumble wasn't going to be a good match. In his mind as long as Hacksaw Jim Duggan or whomever got the crowd to pop cause he showed up. People were entertained.
Nowadays it's more who has "The Look" or has pull with casual non-wrestling fans than it is how great your matches are. But WWE has always been about "The Show" first, and in-ring performance second. It didn't hurt when your best in ring characters were decent in the ring, but I digress.
Contrast WWF's Rock n' Wrestling through the Monday Night Wars with NWA/WCW. Or even the territories. You had colorful characters over here, you had borderline flabby dudes in colorful trunks over there. 9 times out of 10, if they got swiped by WWF they'd become a character. The Red Rooster. The Texas Tornado. The Big Boss Man. The Million Dollar Man. The Undertaker.
I wanna say "you can't always have one without the other and it work", but I'm not a casual. I'm a mark who doesn't watch the program. I'd rather watch flippy shyt and chinese wrestling where I don't understand the commentators.
I have no idea what a filthy casual likes.
Maybe us marks need to shut the fukk up about the product and go watch what we like.
edit: sorry for this mini article (
holy shyt didn't we call these long winded posts "Titantrons" on another message board? Oh, the irony). I'm waiting for the meds and vodka to kick in.
"It's not supposed to be good!"
-Vince McMahon
I remember when the story that quote came from first popped up on here and I quoted that one line in huge font bold letters like 5 times.
I think it was his reaction to someone saying his idea for what was basically a retired wrestler royal rumble wasn't going to be a good match. In his mind as long as Hacksaw Jim Duggan or whomever got the crowd to pop cause he showed up. People were entertained.
Nowadays it's more who has "The Look" or has pull with casual non-wrestling fans than it is how great your matches are. But WWE has always been about "The Show" first, and in-ring performance second. It didn't hurt when your best in ring characters were decent in the ring, but I digress.
Contrast WWF's Rock n' Wrestling through the Monday Night Wars with NWA/WCW. Or even the territories. You had colorful characters over here, you had borderline flabby dudes in colorful trunks over there. 9 times out of 10, if they got swiped by WWF they'd become a character. The Red Rooster. The Texas Tornado. The Big Boss Man. The Million Dollar Man. The Undertaker.
I wanna say "you can't always have one without the other and it work", but I'm not a casual. I'm a mark who doesn't watch the program. I'd rather watch flippy shyt and chinese wrestling where I don't understand the commentators.
I have no idea what a filthy casual likes.
Maybe us marks need to shut the fukk up about the product and go watch what we like.
edit: sorry for this mini article (
Play fighting has moved away from characters and charisma many years ago, that’s why it’s now niche entertainment. The same people that watch the WWF also watch NXT, ROH, TNA, NCPW, it’s all the same audience
I agree with what he saying but on the other hand wasn't he on Meltzer's dicc heavy after his match with Omega got 5 stars? Didn't he have Meltzer on his podcast for an entire episode talking about the match
JerseyBoy23
Veteran
The problem is that for smaller guys the only way to get noticed is to either be great technically or a great high flyer. If the only thing he can do is talk well, he's manager status.
Also I have general question for TSC, why does everyone think high flying moves are bad when Luchadores wrestle a high flying style for years and have long careers?
i dont think its bad..hell my favorite wrestler of all time, 2 cold scorpio, is an ATG high flyer but also dude could also wrestle
JerseyBoy23
Veteran
The only real problem with this notion though is that, what's the point of watching wrestling without caring about the matches? We can get better characters and storylines for 9.99 on Netflix or Hulu. The only two things WWE has against other TV shows is that they never have reruns and have multiple action scenes.
What’s the point of watching a fake fight with no personal investment in characters or story?
Hoegan/Rock at Wrasslemania 18 would get a -10 star rating by today’s audience
JerseyBoy23
Veteran
I'm not saying only have great matches and nothing else but you can't say they don't matter at all.
They go hand in hand. Example Rocky I wouldn't have been so well received without the ending fight where we see him try to go the distance even though he knows he can't beat Apollo Creed.
The first 2/3rds of the movie built up to the fake fight we see at the end.