Jellyfish UFO's captured on military weapons camera

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There's video of the object over water.....

:gucci:


No, there are claims that the camera eventually pans towards the water, there's zero evidence that the object itself was over water.

If you don't know the distance to the object, then it's impossible to know what the object is over. At any point, it could be one inch away, 100 yards away, or 1 mile away. Do you see a single thing pass between the camera and the object at any point in the entire video?



Backed up by someone who had knowledge of the event, from the tweet you just posted....

:gucci:

You mean the guy who thinks it's something on the lens or housing? So he pretty clearly doesn't believe it was over the water. :skip:





Your theory sounds just as farcical as the "aliens" theory you like to shoot down.

I already pointed out why this is poor thinking.

Spider skins happen 2 billion times a second. Aliens have never been proven even once. So off that strength alone, you'd have a LOT of work cut out for you to prove they're equally farcical.




The spider skin just happens to blow away over the lake, this is the explanation I'm supposed to believe....

Um, you do realize that spider threads almost always blow away eventually, right? :comeon:

It didn't "just happen" to blow away, it did the exact thing that spider threads usually do.




You gotta be trolling at this point. Fuk it this is a WORSE theory than the alien one. I take back what I said about it being on par with

You're in your feelings baaaaad now. :mjlol:

How about the theory that it would have to blow away from the speed of the Predator drone. Where do you rank that theory? :pachaha:
 

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didn't see it drop in the water tho......

It's completely made up. They always do that.

I've noticed when I get in these debates, I'm not just disagreeing on interpretations, I have to constantly debunk false claims about the plain facts of the case, even when there's a video. People just make up claims about the event based off of rumors or misinterpretations and then treat them like fact.


Like in the David Fravor case, they're always claiming that he viewed the UFO on multiple sensors (he never had it on radar or IR or viewed it with anything other than the naked eye), they're always claiming that the ship radar verified the movements he saw it make (ship radar never corroborated a single movement he claimed it made), and that his sighting was backed up by video (the only video even taken that day was by a different pilot on a different flight at a different time some 50 miles away from where Fravor's sighting occurred).


I get how they get so caught up in these wild theories, because they're always mixing a little bit of truth with a whole lot of "Trust me bro!" claims, and their brains forget where the proven facts end and the spurious claims begin.
 

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That's a blemish or bug on the focal lens.

I'm all for full investigative reports...but this is silly.
Reminds me of a ufo episode unsolved mysteries had back in the day. This lady had started a small fire in this big field near her house.

It was very very obvious what she got on video was a helicopter landing to check out the fire. They wasted a whole segment acting like this lady had discovered little green men.
 

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It's completely made up. They always do that.

I've noticed when I get in these debates, I'm not just disagreeing on interpretations, I have to constantly debunk false claims about the plain facts of the case, even when there's a video. People just make up claims about the event based off of rumors or misinterpretations and then treat them like fact.


Like in the David Fravor case, they're always claiming that he viewed the UFO on multiple sensors (he never had it on radar or IR or viewed it with anything other than the naked eye), they're always claiming that the ship radar verified the movements he saw it make (ship radar never corroborated a single movement he claimed it made), and that his sighting was backed up by video (the only video even taken that day was by a different pilot on a different flight at a different time some 50 miles away from where Fravor's sighting occurred).


I get how they get so caught up in these wild theories, because they're always mixing a little bit of truth with a whole lot of "Trust me bro!" claims, and their brains forget where the proven facts end and the spurious claims begin.
I kind of believe Bob Lazar though. He has been consistent for decades, and things have 'come to light' that he's mentioned in the past.

As for David Fravor, he gets credibility because of his credentials. I'd known of him way before, from being a cpt on a discovery documentary where he saved a fellow pilot. He's been in the service for quite awhile. Pretty well respected.
 

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Tried to find the docu but since his UFO stuff its saturated. It's pretty old and his name was a nobody, I had just remembered his face because he was a commander that jumped in a jet and saved a female pilot lost in the darkness of the night. (long story bad weather)

anyways, he has never said what he saw were UFO or anything, all he said was he can confirm he saw things that shouldn't move the way they move and that even the pentagon couldn't understand. I think he has alluded too either its another country, or some indep contractor on some ironman shyt that is has figured something out govts haven't. and that its a risk and they should look into it.

I hope it's aliens doe. i want off this shyt, take me to the cosmos. :mjgrin:
 

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I kind of believe Bob Lazar though. He has been consistent for decades, and things have 'come to light' that he's mentioned in the past.
Then you should visit this site and apply critical thinking to his claims .......

As for David Fravor, he gets credibility because of his credentials. I'd known of him way before, from being a cpt on a discovery documentary where he saved a fellow pilot. He's been in the service for quite awhile. Pretty well respected.
According to former Air Force Project Blue Book scientific consultant Dr. J. Allen Hynek, "commercial and military pilots make surprisingly poor witnesses" since they've gotta keep their focus on instrumentation to keep from crashing, not something strange flying past them.

That makes sense because if you've never been in the cockpit of a plane, you'd be flabbergasted by all the stuff they have to view just to stay in the air....

cGc


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I kind of believe Bob Lazar though. He has been consistent for decades, and things have 'come to light' that he's mentioned in the past.

:dahell:

Lazar has changed his story constantly. He gets caught in contradictions and lies all the time. Read this thread:





Here's an even better one where someone breaks down all the little changes and contradictions he constantly makes to try to keep his story together.





That guy's content is amazing - he's a journalist who interviewed over 50 people who knew Lazar, and conclusively demonstrates that he's been a conman his entire life. His second wife was a convicted felon who served serious time too and who was living with him under an assumed name, and his first wife died under suspicious circumstances.











The fact that this guy has gotten play in the UFO community for 30+ years is wild. He's literally a crook who doesn't even understand physics at a basic undergrad level, yet for three decades he's been cosplaying as a brilliant MIT/Caltech grad who was charged with cracking the greatest discovery in human history.
 

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As for David Fravor, he gets credibility because of his credentials. I'd known of him way before, from being a cpt on a discovery documentary where he saved a fellow pilot. He's been in the service for quite awhile. Pretty well respected.

Fravor isn't lying, and he's a generally credible person, he's just too arrogant. He got hyped up because he was told he was going to be chasing UAPs, made a single major mistake (misjudged the distance to an object) which created a parallax effect, and everything that happened after that was the natural misjudgment that comes from parallax. But he absolutely won't admit he could have been wrong because he's a hotshot fighter pilot and they don't do that.






This is a good simple video on the Navy incidents. He gets to David Fravor's account at 15:30. There are much more in-depth breakdowns where they come with all the math and shyt, but this gives you the outline.





Fravor tried to come back at him with Lex Friedman, but got basic things wrong. Mick corrects him on that here.

 

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Then you should visit this site and apply critical thinking to his claims .......


According to former Air Force Project Blue Book scientific consultant Dr. J. Allen Hynek, "commercial and military pilots make surprisingly poor witnesses" since they've gotta keep their focus on instrumentation to keep from crashing, not something strange flying past them.

That makes sense because if you've never been in the cockpit of a plane, you'd be flabbergasted by all the stuff they have to view just to stay in the air....

cGc


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he never claimed area 51, he claimed S-4.

also, the author of the book probably saw what he saw. it didn't really debunk anything. article just wanted more questions answered in which he himself (Bob) said "we just don't know, its out of this world" which makes sense.
 
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