Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III your next Attorney General: Senate Confirmations 1/11

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everybody thought she was going to win you dont get a cookie for that. you get no further bars either because you were one dummies on here that couldnt understand progress still could be made under her presidency. hopefully you all start to think a little more logically in the future instead of thinking a hillary presidency is the same as a trump presidency based on the sole fact that neither of them represent exactly what you want
I'd agree with an argument that she's better based on her starting from the center right instead of the far right like Trump for the pragmatic vote. But conjuring some type of apocalyptic scenario to support a socially liberal war monger doesn't compute. Olbermann used to be the man too, damn shame.
I'm not as optimistic. But I'm not saying Trump should be president I'm just saying don't expect Hillary to bend because the "left is right." She doesn't care about that shyt. We're in a lose lose regardless, and people on the left need to realize that instead of fearing people into voting for Hillary. There's a reason Bill deregulated Wall Street and pushed NAFTA. There's a reason Hillary voted for the Iraq War and was giving speeches to Wall Street without a care. There's a reason Obama is pushing TPP with no remorse.

You don't fight these people because it doesn't lead anywhere. You disqualify them from the jump. And if you can't do that then you move to another party because they have no interest in your ideals. The Clinton's are the worse thing to ever happen to lefty politics. They've turned the party into a cesspool of corruption and identity politics to where even though she's awful every media outlet, corporation, world government, thinker, and citizen has to support her because they were able to finesse a fascist as the opposition.

Like I've said many times though, I hope I'm completely wrong and progressives push her to better the country. I'll gladly take that L about Hillary any day :ehh:
There's progressive risings happening all over the world because of what's been going down for 30 years. And it's not just because people can't adjust to a service economy or globalism. They're starting to slowly see through things. Even if they're placing blame at the wrong things like Trump supporters and Brexit they known something is not right. Bernie drew in more than just left wingers too.

All I'm saying is if the Dems want to be on the right side of things they better play ball and pop that Washington bubble before its too late.

You can ignore me all you want. But there's proof in my history here. I don't trust the Democrats and will call them out for the bs. But I have nothing nice to say about about the GOP and would prefer a Democratic presidency any day. But that does not mean I'm just gonna sit here and play a Bakari Sellers gimmick like you and pretend nothing is wrong with the party.

Right now you're in the running for the WOAT if it wasn't for some pretty awful alt-right trolls. You bring nothing to table past stanning for establishment Dems during election season. And since that's over, see you in 2 years when you're back to relevancy.
 

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You can ignore me all you want. But there's proof in my history here. I don't trust the Democrats and will call them out for the bs. But I have nothing nice to say about about the GOP and would prefer a Democratic presidency any day. But that does not mean I'm just gonna sit here and play a Bakari Sellers gimmick like you and pretend nothing is wrong with the party.

Right now you're in the running for the WOAT if it wasn't for some pretty awful alt-right trolls. You bring nothing to table past stanning for establishment Dems during election season. And since that's over, see you in 2 years when you're back to relevancy.
im in the running for WOAT :lupe: you sound lame(r) than you normally do, stop it :laff:

keep finding your "select" quotes. you got many more being an idiot when it comes to having common sense about the realities and options concerning this election. so i'll say it again, hopefully you regain (or acquire) some of the logic you have lacked as it concerns the obvious
 

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That nikka bitter as fukk.:mjlol:
why shouldnt he be bitter? we get to endure a Trump presidency because some people thought politics is a fantasy where you can get all your wishes fulfilled.
you cant even manage that in your own family yet it is expected in a nation of 300 million people, the word scust has never been more appropriate :scust:
 

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im in the running for WOAT :lupe: you sound lame(r) than you normally do, stop it :laff:

keep finding your "select" quotes. you got many more being an idiot when it comes to having common sense about the realities and options concerning this election. so i'll say it again, hopefully you regain (or acquire) some of the logic you have lacked as it concerns the obvious
I'm giving you proof against your false narrative. All you gotta do is find things that support your claim that I wanted Hillary to lose and that I was calling for some wake up call for Trump winning after Bernie lost. None of the quotes I've posted are so black and white that you couldn't argue against them. But it's obvious you don't care about proof you just want someone to scream at because you were wrong. So you're pretty much a liar and an awful contributor to this forum. So yes you'd be a WOAT candidate if there weren't so many awful trolls that need to purged in here. Also your claim that I needed to fall in line behind Hillary and I'm assuming post as such is pretty disingenuous. I mean there's plenty of forums that would accommodate your censorship and obliviousness to reality.

This ain't the place though breh :heh:
 

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those bernie supporters, many of them young, wouldnt have been voting republican in the first place. ann arbor was never voting for trump, jeb, cruz or none of them anyway. that point is moot. youre overarching point never has been lost on me, i said she lost for a variety of reasons. you seem to continue to want to excuse some factors as nonexistent, which makes further conversation on that end unnecessary
No, I'm saying that you have yet to cite anything that gives me reason to give what you're saying credence. I don't believe because I don't see any evidence of it. How exactly is my point moot? Unless you're arguing that they should've turned out even more then I have no idea what you're talking about. Seriously, take a step back and explain what you're talking about because no one understands you. It just comes off as sour grapes and finger pointing. In the final analysis, it turns out that turnout is not that much different from 2012. Republican turnout went up in a lot of counties and Dem turnout went down, undoubtedly because most of these people thought HRC had it in the bag and couldn't bother to vote. In other words, we underestimated racist white people. We won't ever do that again.
 

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No, I'm saying that you have yet to cite anything that gives me reason to give what you're saying credence. I don't believe because I don't see any evidence of it. How exactly is my point moot? Unless you're arguing that they should've turned out even more then I have no idea what you're talking about. Seriously, take a step back and explain what you're talking about because no one understands you. It just comes off as sour grapes and finger pointing. In the final analysis, it turns out that turnout is not that much different from 2012. Republican turnout went up in a lot of counties and Dem turnout went down, undoubtedly because most of these people thought HRC had it in the bag and couldn't bother to vote. In other words, we underestimated racist white people. We won't ever do that again.
you are acting like she was lucky to get the votes from madison, ann arbor etc. those places always are blue, those were given. she won the popular vote and republican turnout was the same or slightly increased. her loss was due to multiple factors including the re-emergence of the "ists", apathy from bernie supporters who falsely concluded a hillary presidency would be the same as a trump presidency, and her being a poor candidate

and there are no sour grapes, if anything its confusion because the people looking for solutions now are the same ones that wanted this outcome after their preference lost. these are the same people that called people neoliberals, pragmatists, etc for not being stupid enough to believe a hillary presidency would mean the same as a trump one. as much as you'd like to exclude them because they happen to be your friends, they played a role in all this too
 

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you are acting like she was lucky to get the votes from madison, ann arbor etc. those places always are blue, those were given. she won the popular vote and republican turnout was the same or slightly increased. her loss was due to multiple factors including the re-emergence of the "ists", apathy from bernie supporters who falsely concluded a hillary presidency would be the same as a trump presidency, and her being a poor candidate

and there are no sour grapes, if anything its confusion because the people looking for solutions now are the same ones that wanted this outcome after their preference lost. these are the same people that called people neoliberals, pragmatists, etc for not being stupid enough to believe a hillary presidency would mean the same as a trump one. as much as you'd like to exclude them because they happen to be your friends, they played a role in all this too
It's no laughing matter but slightly funny that a few posters in here are now worried when they wanted Trump to win the whole time. These are alleged black posters by the way :mjlol:
 

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Jeff Sessions’ Other Civil Rights Problem


By THOMAS J. SUGRUENOV. 21, 2016

  • In 1986, the Republican-dominated Senate Judiciary Committee torpedoed Ronald Reagan’s nomination of Jeff Sessions to the federal bench. As sworn testimony there revealed, Mr. Sessions, then the United States attorney for the Southern District of Alabama, had referred to the N.A.A.C.P. and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (founded by the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.) as “un-American” and “Communist inspired.” He had joked that he thought the Ku Klux Klan was “O.K.” until he discovered some of its members smoked pot, and had accused a white attorney who supported voting rights of being a race traitor.

    The details revealed in this hearing, troublesome enough to sink his nomination, are surfacing again, now that President-elect Donald J. Trump has selected him to be his attorney general. But it’s worth looking beyond those notorious hearings to Mr. Sessions’s more recent actions as well.

    Eight years after his failed nomination, Mr. Sessions was elected Alabama’s attorney general. While he held the position for only two years — using it as a steppingstone for his campaign for the Senate — he left an indelible mark. He used the power of his office to fight to preserve Alabama’s long history of separate and unequal education.

    Mr. Sessions became attorney general four decades after the Supreme Court struck down segregated schools in its landmark Brown v. Board of Education decision. In the intervening years, racial segregation diminished somewhat, but separate and unequal continued in another form. In 1956, as a way to sidestep Brown, Alabama voters amended the state Constitution to deprive students
    of a right to public education. Public support for school funding collapsed in its aftermath.

    As a result, by the early 1990s, huge disparities in funding separated Alabama’s haves and have-nots. Alabama’s wealthiest school district (and also one of its whitest), Mountain Brook, in suburban Birmingham, spent nearly twice as much per student as the state’s poorest, Roanoke, in a declining manufacturing town about two hours southeast. Poor schools often lacked even rudimentary facilities, including science labs. They struggled to pay teachers, even to repair dilapidated school buses. Half of Alabama’s school buildings lacked air conditioning. Underfunded schools had a particularly hard time meeting the needs of disabled students, whom they were required to support under federal law.

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    Jeff Sessions in court as Alabama’s attorney general in the mid-1990’s.CreditTerry Ashe/The LIFE Images Collection/Getty Images
    Nearly 30 of Alabama’s poorest school districts, with support from disability rights groups, civil rights organizations and the American Civil Liberties Union, filed suit against the state. The most vocal critics of school reform, including the far-right activist Phyllis Schlafly’s Eagle Forum, warned that it would bring “socialism” to Alabama.

    After nearly three years of litigation, Judge Eugene W. Reese of the Alabama Circuit Court found the inequitable funding unconstitutional and ordered the state to come up with a system to remedy the inequity.

    Attorney General Sessions led the battle against the decision. He argued that Judge Reese had overreached. It was a familiar war cry on the segregationist right: An activist court was usurping the power of the state’s duly elected officials to solve the problem on their own. For the next two years, Mr. Sessions sought to discredit Judge Reese and overturn his ruling. In one of the twists of austerity budgeting in the mid-1990s, Mr. Sessions had laid off 70 lawyers in the attorney general’s office, and had to find outside counsel to handle the case. Lawyers working on contract for the office were to be paid no more than $85 per hour, but for the challenge to the equity case, the fee cap was lifted.

    Mr. Sessions was lauded by fellow Republicans for his efforts. They saw funding inequities as part of the natural order of things, not as a problem to be remedied. And any remedy would entail either the redistribution of funds from wealthier to poorer districts or an increase in taxes. Both positions ran against the small-government, privatization dogma that Mr. Sessions promoted.

    Advocates of school equity cried foul. “They’re asking for the last 50 years to disappear, as far as improving public education,” complained C. C. Torbert, the former chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court and the lawyer for the poor districts, about Mr. Sessions and his allies. Special-education and disability organizations were especially outraged: the poorest districts could not provide even basic services to students in need. If Mr. Sessions won, he would “consign an ever-growing number of Alabama schoolchildren to an unconstitutionally inadequate and inequitable education,” Justice Torbert added. When Mr. Sessions insisted that as attorney general, he was representing the Alabama State School Board, the board members protested that he did not represent their position. No matter. He fought on.

    Finally, in 1997, the Alabama Supreme Court upheld Judge Reese’s finding that the state’s educational inequity was unconstitutional. But, as Mr. Sessions (by then a senator) had hoped, the court left the remedy to the state’s increasingly conservative Legislature, which made only modest changes in the state’s school funding structure.

    Alabama’s public schools, still underfunded, still separate and unequal, ranked near the bottom nationally, stand as one of Jeff Sessions’ most enduring legacies. It’s a troubling mark on the record of the man who is to be nominated to oversee the Department of Justice, the federal agency responsible for upholding America’s civil rights laws.

  • http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/o...hts-problem.html?smid=fb-nytopinion&smtyp=cur
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