Jeff Hardy at it again, huh?

[Womb Raider]

People brought up Stone Cold and HBK (even tho HBK did that Crown Jewel match) as examples of staying retired. My example was The Undertaker because so far it's true. He's stay retired and has not tried to come out of retirement to have one more match.

Staying retired =/= retiring gracefully

 

[CBoz]

Staying retired =/= retiring gracefully

Yes. You gracefully accept retirement and don't try to make a comeback.

 

[Womb Raider]

Yes. You gracefully accept retirement and don't try to make a comeback.

He didn’t do that breh

 

[Mike the Executioner]

The build and match with Punk was pretty good but he really should’ve called it quits after the Streak ended. He still had tons of good will left and even if the match sucked it would’ve been understood why since he got hurt during it. But he just kept going, and going, and going and it only got worse over time

The problem is Undertaker couldn't make up his mind on when was the right time to go. The only time all the stars aligned perfectly was in 2012. End of an era (which meant absolutely nothing), in his signature match, he went 20-0. It also wrapped up the whole thing with Shawn Michaels going back to 2009. But for some reason, he kept going.

Even after what happened in 2017, it wasn't enough. Roman Reigns literally said that he retired The Undertaker on live TV multiple times, and it still wasn't enough. You know when he should have been done? At WrestleMania 34 against Cena. He redeemed himself from the year before, looked like he was in much better shape, Cena sold for him well. It was like he went back to 90s Undertaker for one night only. He was annoyed that he did all that training for a short match, but who knows what would have happened if he took bumps for 15 minutes? The goal was for Undertaker to look dominant and otherworldly again, and it worked. Now, he could retire in style.

Except he didn't. Because he probably wanted to prove to himself that he could wrestle longer matches without it being a problem. Less than a year later, and he looked like a joke again after all that hard work.

 

[jwinfield]

So by going what you are saying and many others, Jericho is not retiring gracefully.

When Jericho retires, everyone will say he should've retired years ago because of how he's been.

Retiring gracefully doesn't mean you retire and don't come back, it means you retire before the wheels fall off.

The wheels fell off a long time ago. Undertaker admitted it, said he should've retired in 2010.

 

[CBoz]

He didn’t do that breh

He didn't retire until Survivor Series last year and hasn't tried to return since. Not sure what else to tell you.

 

[CBoz]

When Jericho retires, everyone will say he should've retired years ago because of how he's been.

Retiring gracefully doesn't mean you retire and don't come back, it means you retire before the wheels fall off.


The wheels fell off a long time ago. Undertaker admitted it, said he should've retired in 2010.

I don't disagree but are we saying fans dictate when someone should retire now?

 

[boriquaking]

I don't disagree but are we saying fans dictate when someone should retire now?

Undertaker said it himself you stupid shyt!


Yo can we ban this guy?

 

[MenacingMonk]

And then people ask why I call this guy retarded. He can't grasp simple concepts, wasting everyone's time with endless, useless posts.

Too bad we don’t give WOAT Banners for shytty posters. This stooge would surely win it this year.

Crazy how he went full tard mode this past year. Dude was never like that before. Punk going to AEW really fukked him up.

 

[Womb Raider]

He didn't retire until Survivor Series last year and hasn't tried to return since. Not sure what else to tell you.

which is the entire problem….the fact that he himself said that he should’ve retired earlier proves the fact tha5 he did not retire gracefully, dude didn’t want to accept that he was done


You pouring jelly on ya self at this point breh

 

[jwinfield]

I don't disagree but are we saying fans dictate when someone should retire now?

“Shawn and I have talked quite a bit, and well, I’ve said on more than one occasion-I should have left with you’,” explains Taker.

Taker says he should've retired.

And while fans shouldn't necessarily dictate, in a form of entertainment in which physical fitness and safety is an integral part, fans can tell when a wrestler is significantly lacking in both.

In any sport/sport entertainment format, fans have been able to tell when someone needs to hang it up.

 

[invincible1914]

I bet

When he flew for that hot tag and landed, he heard something snap and was like "alright this is it, boys"

Yeah that’s what I was thinking when I saw the video. Look like his body told him it was a wrap. I think he might have had an injury.

 

[invincible1914]

Do wrestlers ever retire gracefully?

Stone Cold is the only one I can think of right now who got out of there before the flab was all the way set in.

Even porn stars end up better than wrestlers. There are dudes from the 80s still doing matches.

Edit: and Shawn Michaels, but he just had to come back.

 

[HipHopStan]

Thank the wrestling Gods that Stone Cold decided to pack up and go home once he found out he was going to job to Jonathan Coachman in 2005. Can you imagine Austin coming out retirement to wrestle Coach and lose due to Mark Henry interference? It almost happened in this universe.

 

[InstantKlassik]

Almost? he has. I don't count some dumb one-off freakshow match like Crown Jewel as "breaking his retirement"

But it did break his retirement. Doesn't matter how you feel. It happened. And it's one of the worst matches of all time. PERIOD. Not a graceful retirement.