Jay-Z's Former Friend Dehaven EXPOSES Math Hoffa As A Fake Gangster?

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Dehaven moved to North Carolina in 1995 and stop being in the drug game. He wasnt around and he damn sure aint give Rocafella no substantial amount of money. If he did he would be screaming to the rooftops

Roc started in '94, bro.

You never met Haven a day in your life. Or any of the people being discussed. You gotta chill with acting like you know their personalities and what they would do or wouldn't do. Googling your way through these talks ain't gonna change the history or facts here.
 

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Anyway so what we talkin about? Is Dehaven owed any money or not? Coz now I'm confused.
Seems like he hurt the devil don’t want nothing to do with him

But he wants to be around the devil and have a conversation


That never made any sense to me but :yeshrug:


I used to think the only one that wouldn’t want Jay around since he so corrupt and evil was Kanye

But even he says he would want to be jays friend again

It makes no real sense to me
 

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Roc started in '94, bro.

You never met Haven a day in your life. Or any of the people being discussed. You gotta chill with acting like you know their personalities and what they would do or wouldn't do. Googling your way through these talks ain't gonna change the history or facts here.
He said he wasnt around is from his own mouth lol. He not in any of those early videos. Roc may started in 94 but 95 is when all their biggest moves hit. Dude was living in North Carolina and him Jay wasnt cool then like that. And when Dehaven say he helped Dame he mean by introducing Dame to some folks that get money. He never said he gave Jay or Dame cash
 

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He said he wasnt around is from his own mouth lol. He not in any of those early videos. Roc may started in 94 but 95 is when all their biggest moves hit. Dude was living in North Carolina and him Jay wasnt cool then like that. And when Dehaven say he helped Dame he mean by introducing Dame to some folks that get money. He never said he gave Jay or Dame cash

He never said he wasn't around Jay.

He said he wasn't around later on when the label started moving. He said he never traveled with Jay after other people came around, like Biggs. He was there before Biggs. Haven was there when the label first got the paperwork to make it official. He got locked up. Did you really say he wasn't in any of the videos? WTF does that have to do with him giving Jay the bread? He literally said he didn't want anything to do with the music business, but still wanted to help his man. Why would he focused on being in videos?

He had said many times that he gave Jay the money. Other artists, like Sauce and Jaz who knew Haven, have said they wanted Haven to be more involved other than just giving the money. So a lot of people who were actually there, back everything Haven's been saying forever. I don’t know why you're having such a hard time with that. But it's just what the history is.
 

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Math has no issue paying Vlad and Adam 22, along with proving security for them, so he should have no issue paying Dehaven.

It looks like he’s trying to get guys like Gene and Dehaven for free to get some viral clips and get his channel back up again
 

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Math has no issue paying Vlad and Adam 22, along with proving security for them, so he should have no issue paying Dehaven.

It looks like he’s trying to get guys like Gene and Dehaven for free to get some viral clips and get his channel back up again
I don’t think he wants Dehaven or gene up there


He never said it but those two and jaguar will give him some views but it’s not worth it behind some of things they say true or not
 

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Math has no issue paying Vlad and Adam 22, along with proving security for them, so he should have no issue paying Dehaven.

It looks like he’s trying to get guys like Gene and Dehaven for free to get some viral clips and get his channel back up again
Math's channel is currently doing 2x the amount of views per month as Akademik's main Youtube channel. I don't think he needs Gene or Dehaven right now lol.

Honestly, unless he gets a big name guest or a guest with a great story (Shyne), it's probably not worth it to have guests like that. His videos where it's just the cast talking about current events is out doing his non-big name guest videos lately. He should stick to those. They're better shows too.
 

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Math's channel is currently doing 2x the amount of views per month as Akademik's main Youtube channel. I don't think he needs Gene or Dehaven right now lol.

Honestly, unless he gets a big name guest or a guest with a great story (Shyne), it's probably not worth it to have guests like that. His videos where it's just the cast talking about current events is out doing his non-big name guest videos lately. He should stick to those. They're better shows too.
Ak’s YouTube is probably just reuploads of his streams at this point. YouTube doesn’t pay creators nearly as much as it used to so the play should probably be to get sponsors but I don’t know if had that. I hadn’t watched in a while until that episode with Mysonne that made my head hurt.
 

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Math's channel is currently doing 2x the amount of views per month as Akademik's main Youtube channel. I don't think he needs Gene or Dehaven right now lol.

Honestly, unless he gets a big name guest or a guest with a great story (Shyne), it's probably not worth it to have guests like that. His videos where it's just the cast talking about current events is out doing his non-big name guest videos lately. He should stick to those. They're better shows too.

It seems like these guys are aggravated, because they may have discussions about being on the show, things didn’t work out, and then perhaps feel the platform is lowkey taking shots at them.
 

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before pressing play, why is there any crossover between Math in the streets and Dehaven in the streets lol
 

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Perhaps Dehaven has valid gripes regarding Jay, I don't feel strongly about that part one way or another because we have limited information, but texting Faizon Love, still wanting to sit down with whoever to talk about this, it's a bit much at this point, it's not productive to spend this much energy on it still
 

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nikka, if Rocafella really was started with DeHavens money then DeHaven woulda BEEN lawyered up years ago.

And as much as Dame hates Jay, you would think he woulda corroborated this story.
You are talking to a certified clown, very likely a friend of DeHavens son or someone that got smacked up by Bleek for glazing too much or something
 
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