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Jay-Z vs. Rakim
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Rakim Allah
Superstar
Jay the same age as Ra but had to wait til the Golden Era was over to debut. He was a sidekick during the Golden Era.
Jay’s the GOAT when it comes to Industry Rappers.
blankstairz
Superstar
Jay the same age as Ra but had to wait til the Golden Era was over to debut. He was a sidekick during the Golden Era.
Jay’s the GOAT when it comes to Industry Rappers.
Jay also had to wait until Big and Pac were gone too before he became the top rapper in the industry.
Still doesn't discount the body of work even if he blew up later than most in his career.
Ra was an industry rapper too. He had gold and platinum albums.
LunaticVillage415
All Star
No offense, but most East Coast rappers in the 80's subject matter was limited to, well, rapping. How much can you fukking rap about rapping? 
Let's be real. If all you can rap about is rocking stages, writing lyrics and gripping mics... where the fukk is your message? Yeah, Rakim had message songs like "The Ghetto", but mostly Rakim rapped about rapping. Just like Big Daddy Kane and the D.O.C.
When Jay debuted in the mid 90's, you had to had vivid story telling abilities. And that's what he did on Reasonable Doubt. That was like a movie on wax. Jay Z never just rapped about rapping. And Jay had more impact on the culture in setting and killing fashion trends as well as setting musical trends.
Let's be real. If all you can rap about is rocking stages, writing lyrics and gripping mics... where the fukk is your message? Yeah, Rakim had message songs like "The Ghetto", but mostly Rakim rapped about rapping. Just like Big Daddy Kane and the D.O.C. When Jay debuted in the mid 90's, you had to had vivid story telling abilities. And that's what he did on Reasonable Doubt. That was like a movie on wax. Jay Z never just rapped about rapping. And Jay had more impact on the culture in setting and killing fashion trends as well as setting musical trends.
untaintedbeats
Pro
How Jay win? Line for line he ain't messing with Rakim...I'll rather bump ra classics 
Rakim Allah
Superstar
I’m not discounting Jay’s body of work. One of the greats. And you can make a case for Jay as an GOAT artist. But he ain’t seeing Ra as an EMCEE.Jay also had to wait until Big and Pac were gone too before he became the top rapper in the industry.
Still doesn't discount the body of work even if he blew up later than most in his career.
Ra was an industry rapper too. He had gold and platinum albums.
Rakim is not an Industry Rapper. Ra was never corporate. He never dumb down his lyrics for dollars.
Rakim Allah
Superstar
Ra was a paradigm shift. Jay was not.No offense, but most East Coast rappers in the 80's subject matter was limited to, well, rapping. How much can you fukking rap about rapping?
When Jay debuted in the mid 90's, you had to had vivid story telling abilities. And that's what he did on Reasonable Doubt. That was like a movie on wax. Jay Z never just rapped about rapping. And Jay had more impact on the culture in setting and killing fashion trends as well as setting musical trends.
brick james
John piffington
Rakim Allah
Superstar
Damn sure ain’t Jay.Rakim = Jordan?Jordan won 6 straight homie, that aint Rakim
blankstairz
Superstar
No offense, but most East Coast rappers in the 80's subject matter was limited to, well, rapping. How much can you fukking rap about rapping?
When Jay debuted in the mid 90's, you had to had vivid story telling abilities. And that's what he did on Reasonable Doubt. That was like a movie on wax. Jay Z never just rapped about rapping. And Jay had more impact on the culture in setting and killing fashion trends as well as setting musical trends.
Limited subject matter? The Message, the song, dropped in the early 80s, before the golden era. One of the top hip-hop songs of all time.
Where was Jay's message?
Money, Cash, H*es?
Limited subject matter in the 80s? Then why is it considered the Golden era?
Another thing, since when did talking about the streets make you a better rapper?
Jeezy is better than Andre 3000 or Big Boi?
A lot of top flight MCs were from the hood, but mostly rapped about rapping (Redman, Black Thought,etc.)
Quite frankly that was their message: The hood ain't just one dimension. There are other aspects to it. All types of people. For every DMX or Ghostface, there is also a Redman or Black Thought.
Rakim Allah
Superstar
DLimited subject matter? The Message, the song, dropped in the early 80s, before the golden era. One of the top hip-hop songs of all time.
Where was Jay's message?
Money, Cash, H*es?
Limited subject matter in the 80s? Then why is it considered the Golden era?
Another thing, since when did talking about the streets make you a better rapper?
Jeezy is better than Andre 3000 or Big Boi?
A lot of top flight MCs were from the hood, but mostly rapped about rapping (Redman, Black Thought,etc.)
Quite frankly that was their message: The hood ain't just one dimension. There are other aspects to it. All types of people. For every DMX or Ghostface, there is also a Redman or Black Thought.
Homie obviously doesn’t listen to much 80’s Hip Hop.
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Veteran
respect your opinion but here is the difference
80s rapper were contemporaries of the first generation crack kingpins.....they drove the same cars, banged the same chicks, and the rappers popularized the street styles that the drug dealers created
80s rappers were trying to sell records and get airplay....and were NOT drug dealers.......they were rappers
90s rappers were kids who grew up during the crack era...saw it firsthand as little punks doing hand to hands themselves or saw their friends do it....and saw the full ugliness and glamour of that life
Post NWA.....there was an audience and radio/video for drug related raps and stories, so A&Rs allowed those songs to go on albums
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Kool G Rap is the80s exception...and because of him have to call BS on "80s rapper didn't tell us about the streets or gives us a glimpse"
blankstairz
Superstar
I’m not discounting Jay’s body of work. One of the greats. And you can make a case for Jay as an GOAT artist. But he ain’t seeing Ra as an EMCEE.
Rakim is not an Industry Rapper. Ra was never corporate. He never dumb down his lyrics for dollars.
How is Ra is not an Industry rapper, when he was/is in the business of selling music.
That is corporate, breh.
Eric B and Ra were trying to sell records and get money just like Jay was. They all were hustling.
get these nets
Veteran
Wait, so modern NBA power forwards shoot more 3s than 1980s 3 point specialists did per game.No offense, but most East Coast rappers in the 80's subject matter was limited to, well, rapping. How much can you fukking rap about rapping?
When Jay debuted in the mid 90's, you had to had vivid story telling abilities. And that's what he did on Reasonable Doubt. That was like a movie on wax. Jay Z never just rapped about rapping. And Jay had more impact on the culture in setting and killing fashion trends as well as setting musical trends.
Are these 2019 stretch fours better players than the guys who competed for NBA 3point contests in the 80s?
Game evolved. Get it?