JAY-Z ~ 4:44 (Discussion Thread)

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Not getting any expectations up but at least the production should be solid. This could either be very dope or very underwhelming. Jay has set the bar high for himself. I hope it's dope though.

No ID is about to eat well off of this. Great look for him.

Did he ever work with Jay before the American Gangster song with Nas? I wanna say that was the first time. And they have only done a few joints since then right?
he produced all around the world on blueprint 2
 
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Never understood why hip hop is the only genre where there is an age limit .

I guess because hip hop was the baby of the music industry having just been born in the 70s

Hip hop is growing up now and becoming more diverse Jayz is in position to be the celebrated
Old head in the way Melle Mel, Caz, Kool Moe Dee & Kurtis Blow should have been
 

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Because its called "HIP" hop

its about being new, fresh and hip

It has little to do with the age of the artist or the person listening to the music though. Hip Hop is about innovating and setting trends that are new, fresh, and hip. That's something that can be accomplished by some 15-17 year old upstart or some 40 year old veteran. The key is originality and paying attention.
 

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It has little to do with the age of the artist or the person listening to the music though. Hip Hop is about innovating and setting trends that are new, fresh, and hip. That's something that can be accomplished by some 15-17 year old upstart or some 40 year old veteran. The key is originality and paying attention.
Its about being new. Its damn near impossible for a vet to set trends and sound fresh because young people decide whats popular and they aren't listening to rappers with tenure.
 

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Its about being new. Its damn near impossible for a vet to set trends and sound fresh because young people decide whats popular and they aren't listening to rappers with tenure.

Not true. By your logic, this Jay Z project shouldn't even be a thing, but it is. Meanwhile, a Young Thug can't even generate hype for his own releases, but he's the "younger, fresher, hip" artist.
 

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Not true. By your logic, this Jay Z project shouldn't even be a thing, but it is. Meanwhile, a Young Thug can't even generate hype for his own releases, but he's the "younger, fresher, hip" artist.
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This jay project is only big to people that are old enough to understand why he's the GOAT

Most rap fans 15-25( The ones who determine whats popping) is clamoring for a Jay z album.

Why are you comparing Young Thug to Jay z?
 

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This jay project is only big to people that are old enough to understand why he's the GOAT

Most rap fans 15-25( The ones who determine whats popping) is clamoring for a Jay z album.

Why are you comparing Young Thug to Jay z?

You have no way to verify whether or not 15-25 year olds are clamoring for a Jay Z album.
 

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You have no way to verify whether or not 15-25 year olds are clamoring for a Jay Z album.
:mjlol: You think young hiphop fans care about Jay z?

They look at him like we looked at LL Cool J. We understand he's a legend but his greatest music is dated and his new music is for an older crowd cause he's out of touch

Here's Young Thug speaking on Jay z music

[Thug believes that after a certain age, young people don't listen to a rapper's music: "If you're 30, 40 years old, you're not getting listened to by minors. Like, Jay Z has some of the sickest lyrics ever, but I would never buy his CD, just because of my age and because of his age. By the time I turn that old, I ain't gonna be doing what he's doing."
 
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