JAY-Z ~ 4:44 (Discussion Thread)

[Easy-E]

Yo, who mans is this?

This whole exchange

 

[Guvnor]

In the rap radar interview he just said it was wordplay

True but it still made Future feel a lil way I'm sure, just like Futures comment may have made him feel a lil way too.

 

[True Blue Moon]

Moonlight video is about the "awakening" of black consciousness when it comes to how we are portrayed in mainstream media and entertainment. There was a VERY good HBO movie that dropped in the mid 2000's called Dancing In September starring Nicole Ari Parker and Isiah Washington that went deeper into the concept.

Basically Hollywood has mostly portrayed Blacks in a negative light or HIGHLY c00nism or buffoonish. Think about Good Times, when the Producers pushed JJ's goofy ass over the family dynamic. Or something like Homeboys In Outer Space or countless examples I can name of. Whereas most the historically "prestige" sitcoms about white daily life have been met with unanimous praise and reviews while depicting multi-Faceted characters with arcs and growth.

So you have a generation of black actors/comedians/creatives WISHING that they could be apart of a black "Friends" or "Seinfeld". But what they don't realize is that that type of humor is white by nature, targeted towards whites, about white experiences. So when the black entertainers try to mimic that format it comes off corny and not at all what they envisioned.

Issa Rae and Jerrod Carmichael in REAL LIFE represent the rejection of the notion that you have to follow the white blueprint to attain success. Both Carmichael Show and Insecure are unabashedly "black" in the DNA of their storytelling.

That's why the basis for Jerrod "walking away" from his sitcom is a larger symptom of deep seated racism within the industry. The network only gave his show a 6 episode first season. It outperformed expectations. Then they only gave him a 13 episode 2nd season (when most sitcoms get 22) and the show STILL outperformed expectations. THEN they only gave him 13 episodes for a third, and he had to battle with them every step of the way to tell the story in an authentic way. The network put minimal marketing muscle behind it. And finally he said "fukk it" and walked away.

"Even when we win we gonna lose" is basically the Carmichael Show's ironic fate. It outperformed, was a critical success, but that still wasn't enough to give Carmichael the creative freedom to do as he chose

Dancing in September awakened me and was instrumental in my career choice. Super underrated movie.

 

[Guvnor]

In the rap radar interview he just said it was wordplay

After listening to the interview maybe you were right. Jay said it was only rap though at the same time I still feel who knows with Jay. He could just be throwing that bar to make him uncomfortable and to be petty.

 

[Danie84]

Stuff a million dollars in the Sock Drawer that's a war chest in case you need ya chest Knock Off

...wait, Quadruple Entendre

VULGAR

 

[Ishedamediddy]

 

[momma]

Recommended: Put New Day from Watch The Throne right after Caught Their Eyes and before 4:44, and end New Day at 4:18. It fits in perfectly, the Nina Simone sample goes into the soul sample on 4:44 and the tropical-type beat on Caught Their Eyes goes into New Day really well too

 

[RAW_SPK]

Recommended: Put New Day from Watch The Throne right after Caught Their Eyes and before 4:44, and end New Day at 4:18. It fits in perfectly, the Nina Simone sample goes into the soul sample on 4:44 and the tropical-type beat on Caught Their Eyes goes into New Day really well too

Recommended: Put New Day from Watch The Throne right after Caught Their Eyes and before 4:44, and end New Day at 4:18. It fits in perfectly, the Nina Simone sample goes into the soul sample on 4:44 and the tropical-type beat on Caught Their Eyes goes into New Day really well too

Will try later

 

[Romey Rome]

Where's all the videos and interviews he's done for this album. I wanna see the one he did with rap radar

 

[Brady-Carter]

AOTY,

HOV <>

 

[OfTheCross]

it's crazy...

I usedto skip Caught Their Eyes but this might be my favorite song on the album now

 

[winb83]

In the twilight of his career I find myself wishing Jay made more songs like 4:44. To me it's one of his best.

 

[mr x]

Where's all the videos and interviews he's done for this album. I wanna see the one he did with rap radar

If you haven't seen them still...

The rap radar ones are on his vevo page. They were posted there 2 weeks ago.
The music vids are there too.

The footnote vids are not as yet

 

[head shots101]

Ok now it's time to revisit the album after all the dikk riding has die down ....nikkaz screaming classic after one day

 

[the artist known az]

Where the Marcy Me video?