JAY-Z ~ 4:44 (Discussion Thread)

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I'll be real, I don't agree with the analysis of @Claudex And many others on this page at all. Because it goes into the cliched and ridiculous point about Jay being more cautious than others and painting others as revolutionary. Your false image of people like Pac as dying as some sort of revolutionary self sacrifice is your problem in and of itself. Pac made commercial records just like everyone else. Jay talked street and personal shyt just like everyone else. His cool persona blinded you to it. I stopped a few sentences into what you were saying based on that alone. Other rappers didn't fade away because they were safe. They just failed to resonate with people for a long enough time. Basically you spent a lifetime mad at Jay for not rapping about what you wanted him to rap about and you put your own spin on it based on what you believe the pure position is.
 
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I'll be real, I don't agree with the analysis of @Claudex And many others on this page at all. Because it hoes into the cliched and ridiculous point about Jay being more cautious than others and painting others as revolutionart. Your false image of people like Pac as dying as some sort of revolutionary self sacrifice is your problem in and of itself. Pac made commercial records just like everyone else. Jay talked street and personal shyt just like everyone else. His cool persona blinded you to it. I stopped a few sentences into what you were saying based on that alone. Other rappers didn't fade away because they were safe. They just failed to resonate with people for a long enough time. Basically you spent a lifetime mad at Jay for. It rapping about what you wanted him to rap about it and put your own spin on it based on what you believe the pure position is.

:whoa::whoa::whoa: I was definitely not mad at Jay, I was just bummed to notice some inconsistencies with his later work AFTER the black album. I had other rappers to listen to thank God. Hip-Hop's never gotten me actually mad, not even in these days of the mumble rappers...because I know that the art will always give me options (there's always different rappers, rapping differently and on different things no matter the era).

I respect your opinion though breh.
 

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I wish Hov never had that Moment of Clarity line. Critics cling to that line like The NRA cling to their guns.

My boy died /and all I did was inherit his stress/to make every jam tougher"

It's like if it's not the best shyt ever. They callin it wack. Jay not allowed to make good to great records. And even if it is great it's not because of him. It's the production. It's his connects. Lack of competition. Pretty much, It's everything but him.

Jay eliminated the Biggie lines, Guest appearances, club records. Expanded on content he has always done. Brehs have no bullets in the chamber. Hov took them all. Now critics don't know what to say. But instead of enjoying the album or not listening to it. They are searching for anything to put it down.

That's my GOAT.

"The topic of discussion In every nail shop"
 
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I wish Hov never had that Moment of Clarity line. Critics cling to that line like The NRA cling to their guns.

My boy died /and I did was inherit his stress/to make every jam tougher"

It's like if it's not the best shyt ever. They callin it wack. Jay not allowed to make good to great records. And even if it is great it's not because of him. It's the production. It's his connects. Lack of competition. Pretty much, It's everything but him.

Jay eliminated the Biggie lines, Guest appearances, club records. Expanded on content he has always done. Brehs have no bullets in chamber. Hov took them all. Now critics don't know what to say. But instead of enjoying the album or not listening to it. They are searching for anything to put it down.

That's my GOAT.

"The topic of discussion In every nail shop"

The haters and the critics been on cruise control

Hov knocked all their fav rappers out the conversation, and now they're scrambling
 

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I find myself humming ManyFacedGod all day...

Too perfect to wonder
We created flame that would warm us 'til it's over
We invented lovers from company for the sound
I was many faces, at least I was willing to cave
I was worried that the way I was would end me up alone

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Woulda broke me down had you got away
Woulda broke me up had you took my child away
I'm glad we found a way
Sexin' the pain away
Vacay the pain away
Drinking the pain away
Smoking the pain away
I'm glad we found a way

:mjcry: :mjcry: :mjcry:
 
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