JAY-Z ~ 4:44 (Discussion Thread)

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I'm a fan of both and Jay has no consensus classics since Black Album. While Kanye's last consensus classic was Graduation or MBDTF depending on your preference.

That's not knocking Jay's early discography though.
Music is subjective. there's no such thing as "consensus classic" when it comes to music. it's just a term dweebs came up with to argue among themselves. what u may call classic another person may call trash.
I've heard many ppl consider American Gangsta Jay's last classic, yet u differ, to each his own.
In short, Hov don't need Kanye to make great music. Even when he was making music with Kanye, Kanye wasn't the only producer Hov was working with
 

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The Iovine part

i was listening to that in my truck
and when Sway asked him if he was friends with Jay
sounded like dude was making up that shyt

talking bout

"i send Jay real estate listings, cause jay is always looking for real estate in LA"

shyt had me like:stopitslime:
shyt def sound like a hollow ass relationship mostly... Wit dude bringing up houses like we ask somebody "How's the weather out there"
 

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I've listened to it like 3 times already....:wow:

I normally dislike Jay-Z's music, but this right here is really good. There's no denying it.
 

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