JAY-Z ~ 4:44 (Discussion Thread)
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fukk all this pretty Sean Carter shyt nikka hov! 
You dropped outta school you lost ya principals 
BK The Great
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Kill Jay Z gives this kind of visual when listening to it
steadyrighteous
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Neither did I to be honest. It only makes sense when you've read the lyrics.
@Zero has been quoting bars throughout this thread, and the one thing I've noticed is that they are incredibly impactful when you read them, but some of them are bars that are "off beat".
To me, that's a sign of someone who's decided that he'd rather say what he needs to say, how he needed to say it, and sacrifice the pocket.
Throughout his career (post RD), Hov hasn't wasted a word. He's been punchy, witty and brief, but when you read these new bars, they're denser, and more to the point. Although some of them have double meanings, he's using as many words as he needs to deliver the primary meaning without misinterpretation on first listen.
That's why even on first listen there are so many quotables. He's getting straight to the point. fukk a flow.
Kill Jay Z gives this kind of visual when listening to it
Yup
47 year old Jay at least attempting to put an end to a lot of the trends, mindsets and thought processes he helped birth in his late 20's early 30's
I owe you rep:goldd:
I feel like drake used this same flow on can't have everything. Its a off beat on beat thing.And on a note about the flow being off.
I agree to a degree. But I noticed a while ago, maybe 2/3 years, maybe even more (around the time of Shiny Suit Theory) that Hov was doing this thing he used to save for adlibs or at the end of tracks...
He'll be on beat for about 4-6 bars, then, almost like he was trying to make a point, for 1.5 or 2 bars he'd be off, but if you read the lyrics to the off beat bars, those are the lines where it felt like he had a lot to say.
So it goes
RAP
RAP
RAP
RAP
TALK TALK TALK
RAP
RAP
Almost like he was taking a break in the middle of the verse to get his point across, then back to rapping.
It's the same thing he does at shows, where the band will play the instrumental, and he'll talk to the crowd, but instead of saving it for the end, he's trying to squeeze them into verses, so it knocks the flow off kilter.
Not making excuses for it, not even saying I'm right, just giving my perspective
Jay Z copped Tidal for 56 million like two years ago
Its now worth 600 million
This guy is the Doctor Doom of the rap game, takes no losses
HabitualLineSteppa
....Fuh Q.
I won't go too in depth cause my brehs in here that recognize this album off the rip as being a culture shifter, know whats up.
I did say, culture shifter. Take with that as you may. I can't help but to conclude that this thing we love, live, and breathe, on accident and on purpose, Hip Hop, ain't the same. We SHOULDNT HAVE TO feel like, "OMG, A JAY-Z album is such a breath of fresh air cause he's spittin" but here we are. I hope this album sparks minds, bodies, and souls to do better going forward. Its gon be detractors and deniers but that's always the case with us, right?
Jigga dropped an album addressing shyt that matters. Owning his faults, holding his L's as a grown man, missed opportunities, family, our community and placement as the world sees us etc all while still on his fly, "I'm that dude and I aint even gotta say it for you to believe it beyond one line" (Literally referenced himself in one line on some braggadocios shyt...I'll let you catch it) and yet, I feel like it's gon shift SOME but not enough.
Mad bodies got dropped on this album. We've NEVER heard Jay this blatantly truthful on an album. My dude said his mama is a lesbian. That was alot. When you came up with this shyt. From the 80's and 90's. That would have been a fatal flaw once upon a time. He's an OG so he's giving insight and game up with no hurdles. No care. Taking advantage of all this "openness" we see on the day to day.
The Al Sharpton/Bill Cosby bar in "Family Feud" was pivotal AF. Not because its shocking but the timeliness of it. This nygga wrote this album Monday man, i'm convinced!
Anyway, be on the look out for a shift in content, especially if everyone, like myself, acclaims this album...
It ain't even been a day but real ones been fiendin for real spit and Hov delivered masterfully.
A 10 track, no filler Jay-Z has never happened...Until today...Let us embrace it, digest it, and learn from it...Word to Illmatic.
I did say, culture shifter. Take with that as you may. I can't help but to conclude that this thing we love, live, and breathe, on accident and on purpose, Hip Hop, ain't the same. We SHOULDNT HAVE TO feel like, "OMG, A JAY-Z album is such a breath of fresh air cause he's spittin" but here we are. I hope this album sparks minds, bodies, and souls to do better going forward. Its gon be detractors and deniers but that's always the case with us, right?
Jigga dropped an album addressing shyt that matters. Owning his faults, holding his L's as a grown man, missed opportunities, family, our community and placement as the world sees us etc all while still on his fly, "I'm that dude and I aint even gotta say it for you to believe it beyond one line" (Literally referenced himself in one line on some braggadocios shyt...I'll let you catch it) and yet, I feel like it's gon shift SOME but not enough.
Mad bodies got dropped on this album. We've NEVER heard Jay this blatantly truthful on an album. My dude said his mama is a lesbian. That was alot. When you came up with this shyt. From the 80's and 90's. That would have been a fatal flaw once upon a time. He's an OG so he's giving insight and game up with no hurdles. No care. Taking advantage of all this "openness" we see on the day to day.
The Al Sharpton/Bill Cosby bar in "Family Feud" was pivotal AF. Not because its shocking but the timeliness of it. This nygga wrote this album Monday man, i'm convinced!
Anyway, be on the look out for a shift in content, especially if everyone, like myself, acclaims this album...
It ain't even been a day but real ones been fiendin for real spit and Hov delivered masterfully.
A 10 track, no filler Jay-Z has never happened...Until today...Let us embrace it, digest it, and learn from it...Word to Illmatic.
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MollyGalaga
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Jay album orange
Ye album was orange
Ye album was orange
buy an androidHow do I listen to the album ? No laptop until Monday and I don't have Tidal
