JAY-Z ~ 4:44 (Discussion Thread)

Soymuscle Mike

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97' mentality me thinks It's a 7, and I fukking hate Jay-Z.
That may sound bad to some of y'all, to me a 7 ain't bad, I got mad 70's in highschool, shyt that meant I passed regardless I didn't fail.

But compared to the absolute crap that is out today, young people's rap, your milgos and all that other corny shyt? It's a fukking 10.

That's a good point. I had it at a 7 as well, but indeed compared to some of the shyt I'm hearing it's GREAT.

Compared to other great albums, nah.
 

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And on a note about the flow being off.

I agree to a degree. But I noticed a while ago, maybe 2/3 years, maybe even more (around the time of Shiny Suit Theory) that Hov was doing this thing he used to save for adlibs or at the end of tracks...

He'll be on beat for about 4-6 bars, then, almost like he was trying to make a point, for 1.5 or 2 bars he'd be off, but if you read the lyrics to the off beat bars, those are the lines where it felt like he had a lot to say.

So it goes

RAP
RAP
RAP
RAP
TALK TALK TALK
RAP
RAP

Almost like he was taking a break in the middle of the verse to get his point across, then back to rapping.

It's the same thing he does at shows, where the band will play the instrumental, and he'll talk to the crowd, but instead of saving it for the end, he's trying to squeeze them into verses, so it knocks the flow off kilter.

Not making excuses for it, not even saying I'm right, just giving my perspective :russ:
 
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