Albums Jay Electronica - A Written Testimony (Discussion Thread)

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wtf is house of allah..you online fagget!

ALLAH SCHOOL IN MECCA
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probably never heard of an universal parliament!

offline you are an arabic homosexual

you were just arguing 5% and noi shared belief systems in this thread

everything you say is non-cipher. you have never been in the house of allah and have built with no gods because your a demon

@Conscious Pilot you stay dappin up b.s. but hey anything if they agree wit ya right?


Multiple posts to say you don't like something :ohlawd:

nikkas taking the bait :ohlawd:

reverse psychology?. as i see not one lyric quoted. all u got was a dap from a cac f@ggot

Await what lyrics? And I'm here, I just got a couple of phone calls about the album actually lol.

And in terms of substantive content K-Rino probably has the most and covers the most topics in Hip Hop history so that's true but not a standard I judge everybody by. Depends on the objective and intent.

I don't think this album is among the most content filled albums in Hip Hop history or anything like that but it does have content and I judge it for what it is.

For being as concise as it is I do consider it well balanced, there's only 9 tracks vocalled and quite a lot is referenced or spoken about that has substance within those 9 tracks.

But what draws me to the album isn't primarily the content, I enjoy that, but it's the mix, the content, the craftmanship of the lyrics, the beats and the emotion.

It's an album I've been able to play a lot and because of the way it's constructed I know to me it won't lose value to me. Because themes such as A.P.I.D.T.A are timeless to me, again it's not just about the content, it's about loss which many have covered, but the way it's been done is very effective and hits home for a lot of people deeply who have experienced it. I've seen countless listeners say how much that song that's effected them that have experienced loss and grief and for me that's 1 of the main things music is about, touching the people. The way that was done really felt was potent and it's certainly succeeded in that goal of hitting people just the way they wanted.

I felt great listening to the album, empowered, positive, hopeful and in great spirits, even during a difficult time in the world. So I enjoyed it for a multitude of reasons.

what lyrics?

you guys are becoming parodies of yourselves. quote some lyrics.

im not gonna bash/debate. i want to see what you see/hear
 

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If this budden fukkery gets jay elec to drop an actual solo project with just blaze tracks im all for it:mjlit::lolbron::pachaha:
 

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offline you are an arabic homosexual

you were just arguing 5% and noi shared belief systems in this thread

everything you say is non-cipher. you have never been in the house of allah and have built with no gods because your a demon

@Conscious Pilot you stay dappin up b.s. but hey anything if they agree wit ya right?




reverse psychology?. as i see not one lyric quoted. all u got was a dap from a cac f@ggot



what lyrics?

you guys are becoming parodies of yourselves. quote some lyrics.

im not gonna bash/debate. i want to see what you see/hear

I didn't know what you were talking about, you @ me and said I await lyrics, what are you asking for? Lyrics from the album? I've posted numerous lyrics from the album, and you've dapped several of the posts, so I'm not sure what you're asking me for. Is it something specific? Because I've made posts in the thread with plenty of the lyrics previously, and a few breakdowns too.
 

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I've posted numerous lyrics from the album, and you've dapped several of the posts, so I'm not sure what you're asking me for. Is it something specific? Because I've made posts in the thread with plenty of the lyrics previously, and a few breakdowns too.

cool then requote them and post em here

thread is big and i dont remember
 

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cool then requote them and post em here

thread is big and i dont remember

"Like Vince Staples said, we just wadin' in the water
My people out in Flint still bathin' in the slaughter
ICE out here rippin' families apart at the border
Satan struck Palestine with yet another mortar
Lies from the reporters
Ass shots and stripper poles for the eyes of my daughter, hm
Swing low sweet chariot, my train is on schedule
But I had to take the Underground Railroad like Harriet

Weave the whole industry, every jab I've parried it
My cross I carried it

My crown of thorns to cavalry from Nazareth
The orbit was too wide to calculate the azimuth
The journey was technically unexplainable, hazardous
Rise, young gods, all paths lead to Lazarus
The dry bones that lifted up from the valley dust
The prayers of the slaves are the wings that carry us
A field full of dreams is where they tried to bury us (Bury us)"

"Though I tarry through the valley of death, my Lord give me pasture
If you want to be a master in life, you must submit to a master
I was born to lock horns with the Devil at the brink of the hereafter
Me, the socket, the plug, and universal adapter
The prodigal son who went from his own vomit
To the top of the mountain with five pillars and a sonnet
The autobiography read Quranic"

"Jay Electollah Flomeini mainly is support mainly
The fatwa he issued on al-Shayṭān was delivered plainly
It's the day of Qiyāmah
To the believers, I bring you tidings of joy
But if you want beef, I'll filet mignon ya
You could catch me bummy as fukk or decked out in designer
On I-10 West to the desert, on a Diavel like a recliner
Listen to everything from a lecture
From the honorable minister Louis Farrakhan
To Serge Gainsbourg or Madonna or a podcast on piranhas
What a time we livin' in, just like the scripture says
Earthquakes, fires, and plagues, the resurrection of the dead"

"The son of slaves, true, I started out as a peasant (Uh-uh)
That's why I build my temple like Solomon in the desert (Uh-uh)
The Lord is my rock, I speed dial through salat
My trials in the fiery crucible made me hot
I glow like embers of coal, born with a touch of gold
My mathematical theology of rhymin' a touch the soul
I spent many nights bent off Woodford
Clutchin' the bowl, stuffin' my nose
Some of the cons, I suffered for prose
My poetry's livin' like the God that I fall back on
And all praises due to Allah for such an illustrious platform
The teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad's my backbone
When I spit, the children on the mothership bow on a platform
The true history of Jesus comin' to age
I wore a ski mask and glove to the masquerade
Uh, I got the Roc on my shoulder (It's the Roc)
Somebody should've told you, I'm a motherfukkin' universal soldier"

Masterpiece and classic are 2 of the most associated words have heard about the album. A.P.I.D.T.A is being heralded also. Another sentiment I've seen is refreshing and a breath of fresh air, I listen to a lot of great current Hip Hop so I hear great shyt all the time but I understand that and even among the dope shyt this has some uniqueness about it because you have an icon and legend in Jay-Z on a spiritual tip while still being witty and lyrical and sounding really hungry on some tracks. The chemistry between them both which I think is excellent, the style of Jay Electronica which isn't common to hear, even the choices he makes with like the samples they use and shyt, to hear this on an album with Jay-Z that features people like Travis Scott, The Dream etc give it a certain uniqueness. Content wise we don't always hear albums on this kind of platform and with this soundscape that are mentioning issues like Palestine, Jim Crow, Rumi, Adan, Bewitched even, you're getting a lot of different references that capture a time period but also have a relevant modern feel. It feels fresh and new but also with a touch of classic about it, timelessness.

Jay Elec even has a reference to Khomeini and the fataw he put out on Salman Rushdie, these references are not missed on me at all and they are littered throughout the album. It gives the album substance and depth because they are just not thrown in there, they are in context and purposeful. And it's all tided together in a theme of upliftment, a theme of hope, a theme of spirituality and power.

The pharasing is different, the lyricism is different, who would have thought in 2020 you'd hear this. To me this is what we should be hearing, expanding the genre and culture with knowledge and information that people can build upon. Not just hoes, money, clubs, drugs, shyt like that, that's why I understand the fresh air sentiment MANY have expressed. I haven't gone as long as them without that shyt but it still feels special and unique in it's own right.

It's positive also for the most part, it will stand the test of time on that. Just like how I feel Distant Relatives did. There's biblical references that add a certain gravitas to what's being said and some beautiful phrasing littered throughout, great lyricism which is potent, poetic and meaningful.

"The Lord is my rock, I speed dial through salat
My trials in the fiery crucible made me hot
I glow like embers of coal, born with a touch of gold

My mathematical theology of rhymin' a touch the soul"

I bolded that line because it really is a theology in a sense, he's touching people's souls with his calculated and scientific spiritual rhymes. That line further emphasizes that this was intentional and purposeful, this was his purpose and the comments shows he achieved it. The phrasing even in the other lines is very well done, metaphors mixed in with descriptive emotive language, he's trying to reach the people in many of the bars and succeeds.

I could talk about the album all day and break down every song but I won't do that quite yet, but...

Some of the cons, I suffered for prose
My poetry's livin' like the God that I fall back on
And all praises due to Allah for such a illustrious platform

The teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad's my backbone

Even a line like that, some of the cons I suffered for prose, that shyt is dope. He does the thing Jay-Z sometimes does which is like is have related themes in different parts of the rhymes to create cohesive thematic verses. No matter your religious persuasion the imagery throughout the album is impressive too, you don't have to be N.O.I to respect the commitment and sincerity in Jay Elec's beliefs and his dedication. A lot of powerful and great people had that throughout all walks of life and fields. Muhammad Ali and Malcolm X are 2 obvious 1's who for a very long time had the exact same inspirations when they were achieving great and historic things. So people don't have to agree with their ideology, I'm not N.O.I myself, but I do respect the faith and belief. It's not just about religion, it goes deeper than that into a spiritual realm and a human realm.

Jay-Z mentions Du Pont and Carnegi, there's really a lot to the album in a concise number of tracks, 9 with vocals.

The album lives up to it's name to me, it IS A Written Testimony from Jay Elec, obviously with Jay-Z adding on as a brother, but he's put emotion and thought into this shyt. He's not just saying any old shyt, sometimes shyt being concise is not a bad thing. I'd rather 10 tracks of dope or great than 19 tracks and 8 are good.

Jay Elec mentioned Ice, Harriet Tubman, Flint, it really is like a testament of what's important to him as a human being and what he represents within his parts on the album, that's why I feel it is a effective piece of art, it was with purpose and the intent was fulfilled in my opinion.

As I said could be discussed all day, but my point is the substance in the album and the craft are what will make it stand the test of time. There's a strong foundation that I believe won't crack but will only be appreciated more. Just a few off the top thoughts.
 
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offline you are an arabic homosexual

you were just arguing 5% and noi shared belief systems in this thread

everything you say is non-cipher. you have never been in the house of allah and have built with no gods because your a demon

@Conscious Pilot you stay dappin up b.s. but hey anything if they agree wit ya right?




reverse psychology?. as i see not one lyric quoted. all u got was a dap from a cac f@ggot



what lyrics?

you guys are becoming parodies of yourselves. quote some lyrics.

im not gonna bash/debate. i want to see what you see/hear

my nikka why do you keep tagging me? :mjlol:

What issues do you have with this album to tag people who are dapping posts ?

Is it cause the masses prefer this project over any Killah Priest project ever? :pachaha:
 

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Budden is a clown and Jay-Z would never do an album with him so it's a moot point.

Jay-Z did arguably wash Jay Elec but who cares. It's Jay-Z. It's not like Jay Elec did an album with Lil Pump. The sole reason this is even a topic of discussion is this is technically Jay Elec's debut, and it's not a good look to get washed on your debut.

But again....it's Jay-Z. :yeshrug:

Fred.

buttons a clown who talks sh!t about rappers hes scared to respond to

(papoose, inspectah deck, eminem and now jay electronica)

only thing worse than him is his stans

If this budden fukkery gets jay elec to drop an actual solo project with just blaze tracks im all for it:mjlit::lolbron::pachaha:

im all for jay elec droppin more material

hes nice af and i always been a fan but the way people are hard on nasir is the way im hard on jay elec

only difference is jay elec has way more to prove
 
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my nikka why do you keep tagging me? :mjlol:

my ngga why do u keep dappin up posts disrespecting me?

i consider it passive agrressive jabs

im not mad at anybody just as i assume your not either.

its what i feel to be inconsistent when jay elecs debut doesnt match his previous bodies of work lyrically

i will stop :deadhorse: now

@The Ruler 09 off your post i will listen to the album again but this time not weeded

p.e.a.c.e. to all who find solace in the scriptures of jabril

we out here
 

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"Sometimes I was held down by the gravity of my pen (Pen)
Sometimes I was held down by the gravity of my sin (Sin)
Sometimes, like Santiago, at crucial points of my novel
My only logical option was to transform into the wind"


I love this section, shows the inner turmoil and pressure he may have been facing with that weight of expectation, metaphors nice. Held down by the gravity of his pen, because he was so nice lyrically he wanted to make sure he delivered lyrically so it may have made him apprehensive to release a full project. Maybe he's a perfectionist, some genius' are that way. Some don't mind putting everything they do out, on the other hand some are very particular. So it's almost like his lyrical skill was a gift and a curse, a gift because he was blessed with it but a curse because he had that weight of expectation and anything even perceived as less would be met with condemnation or ridicule. I like how within just a line there's so much in it and how potent it is.

Then goes on to speak about his own imperfections and flaws so putting himself in the world like that may be a concern, it all adds to the understanding and paints a fuller more in depth picture. The Saniago reference is exceptional as it fits his story perfectly, its the perfect simile. Can also be related to people in all situations in life when they get too tough or rough, many have had points in life where you have to be ghost or absent like Jay Elec has, where you need to take a step back because it was getting too overwhelming. At some of those times it was only logical for him to do that cause it was getting too much for him for his own sanity and well being, at points where it could have benefited his career not to be. That's the perfect reference he used for that and the set up was dope too.
 

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"I started on Tatooine but now I'm way out in Dagobah
Mastered the force, made my saber, I'm in the light now (Light now)

It's the hour of chaos, the black steel is on me right now (Right now)
(Kill 'em with that bullshyt)
Some ask me "Jay, man, why come for so many years you been exempt?"
'Cause familiarity don't breed gratitude, just contempt
And the price of sanity is too damn high, just like the rent"

This section was nice too, nice metaphor and reference which he builds upon, nice P.E word play. And a really potent line with...

"Some ask me "Jay, man, why come for so many years you been exempt?"
'Cause familiarity don't breed gratitude, just contempt"

And you could well argue that is true, as they say absent hearts make the heart grow fonder. Sometimes people take for granted what's always there all the time, I'm sure many have experienced that in life in general but even musically, you can almost expect it. That's why long awaited returns are sometimes popular and sometimes if it's dope ends up benefiting an artist too, many examples of that.

Then he says the price of sanity is too high just like the rent, a bit of social commentary but sunken in the lyrics, main part is the price of sanity being too high, so all the time he's painting a more vivid picture about what he's been dealing with, it's a good explanation for some he was an enigma too. To me it makes me feel more sympathetic, I always am with artists really because I always remember they are human beings too with real lives, problems and even tragedies that happen but it gives greater understanding and shows he probably had to take times away from the spotlight at times for his own mental health.
 

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Jay didn’t body Electronica? Where are people getting this?

jay got him on Flux, but everything else was tit 4 tat. Hov doesnt a verse better than Jays on Ezekial Wheel, Fruits is the spirit, and A.P.I.D.T.A on this album those are the best verses on it
 
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