Albums Jay Electronica - A Written Testimony (Discussion Thread)

[The Ruler 09]

Lol...

 

[OJ Simpsom]

N1ggaz trying to listen to this gawbage 10 times to convince themselves they like it

 

[beenz]

Lol...

 

[Tommy Sheppard]

Got a confession brehs...


I been listening to Shiny Suit Theory all these years and NEVER knew that was The Dream singing at the end. Always thought it was a sample of some lady Jazz singer from the 30’s

I thought that was a women apart of that they sampled.

 

[Lootpack]

 

[hex]

No. because it is highly relevant to the discussion that is happening. People are saying no-one is saying it's classic which is false. "Random ass people?" These are the Hip Hop listeners, their opinion is no less valuable than anybody else's. Infact probably more valuable than a lot of people on here who have agendas and are stans of others. I'm sure some genuinely don't feel the album, perfectly fine if that's the case but there are also clear agendas. I'm showing an alternate viewpoint that is the truth, there ARE a lot of people that are feeling the album, are there people who don't feel it too? Absolutely, but the album is resonating with people strongly. It means A LOT, look at what people are saying, it's not random comments, it's common themes that people are saying and also they are invested in the album passionately.

There's no campaign, the only campaign seems to be to suppress people who think the album is a classic, that isn't gonna work on me in no shape or form because I have my owns thoughts and views that are strictly my own and independent of anybody else's influence.

Likes and retweets are irrelevant, it's about how it's effecting individual people, if many seperate individuals are saying similar things that shows something, infact that's evidence of what I said that is pure.

However...



This has 2.8 thousand likes since you mentioned it.



This has 3.1 thousand likes.



1.6 thousand likes on this 1.

So that shows that 1000's of people feel the same as what's said, and that was my point. 100's and 1000's of people are feeling the album, and many are considering it a classic. Let them feel how they want, NOBODY is saying that everybody has to consider the album a classic, not at all, but dismissing all these people who do in some way which many have done or ridiculing them is not right, cause these are just individual normal people and they matter hugely, the everyman or woman matter more than some buffoons on here (for example the proven racist Big Mel), this is what I mean about some of these normal opinions matter more than those on here.

You are right that the people will decide, and I'm posting the people which many are denying is happening, but yeah my points been proven there conclusively as 1000's of people feeling the same. I also added on my own thoughts of why I believe it will stand the test of time within the post, it seems some don't like an alternate opinion to even be voiced, I added the comments as evidence that others are also in agreement with this.

At the end of the day, the people will decide, they are expressing their views and opinions now and I believe the album will stand the test of time in their minds and hearts for the reasons I stated, but we shall see, I know it will in mine.

Anyone saying nobody thinks this is a classic is a moron. People think Waka Flocka got classics, for Christ sake. It's the internet, you can find literally anyone agreeing with anything.

If you want to use celebrities or rappers or....you know, people whose opinion is actually held in high regard (for whatever reason....but whatever) do that instead of posting 30 people and nobody knows who the fukk they are. They're literally nobodies.

It would be like me saying "the album is actually not that good" and then posting 50 Tweets from people agreeing with me. It's retarded. Or hell, this thread is full of people saying it's either not that good, or outright trash. Do you see me quoting them, like I give a fukk?

That's why I said, you cats don't sound confident in your opinion. I think the album is cool. I don't need co-signs from nobody. And I ain't in here attacking anybody for disagreeing. Cats are on some goofy time in this thread.

Calling people old and dusty for not stanning a 43 year old. Accusing anyone that disagrees with being a hater, or "not a fan".
And the whole Jewish thing is especially because I'm probably the most transparent person on this site. I've posted pics, gave out real addresses....hell, I offered to put people in contact with real life people that know me, that can verify the back ground I come from. With a ban bet. Nobody took it.

So yeah....cats need to relax. If you love the album cool but this attack dog mind state some of yall got ain't doing Jay Elec or the album any favors.

Fred.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Jay Elec needs to executive produce all of Hov's albums from now on

No fukking way

 

[hex]

he didn't do the 40..he in the high life now cause he married a white woman with money and now he's trying to be black and teaching lessons. LMAO..How backward is that??

I don't think he ever married her but admittedly I don't follow rappers personal lives like that.

Regardless, I'm sure his actions contradict a gang of shyt he's saying on this album but it's no different than any other rapper, really. I take what rappers say with a grain of salt.

Fred.

 

[The Dust King]

after everythings said and done the album is a disappointment on every level

subpar lyrics
subpar beats
off beat verses
off beat hooks

i mean you can tell they freestyle sometimes

then both of em on some bronson/roc/mach biting shyt wit the keeping takes

shiny suit theory?

wheres the other 20 songs we rather have instead of that?

album feels contrived with and honestly i rather have heard a jayz album instead of this

this isnt the ACT we wanted.

waiting 20 years for hov to spit on an alchemist beat is not equal to jay electronicas debut album

all this time to wait for him to say if hov says its quran?

well ok gotcha whatever he say

@mikishere im @'n u again since you so emotional carl thomas

u got played for dappin a stupid ass comment. call me old but listen to 50 year olds. u sound stupid as fukk.

 

[Ziggiy]

Professional reviews are starting to drop


I’m not gonna link Cacfork’s review but they gave it 8.4 and named it Best New Music.


NME gave 3/5

Jay Electronica – 'A Written Testimony' review


Entertainment Weekly gave it B+

Jay Electronica's 'A Written Testimony' is a righteous step forward: Review


Uproxx Very favorable

Jay-Z Helps Make Jay Electronica’s ’A Written Testimony’ An Essential Listen

 

[The Ruler 09]

Anyone saying nobody thinks this is a classic is a moron. People think Waka Flocka got classics, for Christ sake. It's the internet, you can find literally anyone agreeing with anything.

If you want to use celebrities or rappers or....you know, people whose opinion is actually held in high regard (for whatever reason....but whatever) do that instead of posting 30 people and nobody knows who the fukk they are. They're literally nobodies.

It would be like me saying "the album is actually not that good" and then posting 50 Tweets from people agreeing with me. It's retarded. Or hell, this thread is full of people saying it's either not that good, or outright trash. Do you see me quoting them, like I give a fukk?

That's why I said, you cats don't sound confident in your opinion. I think the album is cool. I don't need co-signs from nobody. And I ain't in here attacking anybody for disagreeing. Cats are on some goofy time in this thread.

Calling people old and dusty for not stanning a 43 year old. Accusing anyone that disagrees with being a hater, or "not a fan".
And the whole Jewish thing is especially because I'm probably the most transparent person on this site. I've posted pics, gave out real addresses....hell, I offered to put people in contact with real life people that know me, that can verify the back ground I come from. With a ban bet. Nobody took it.

So yeah....cats need to relax. If you love the album cool but this attack dog mind state some of yall got ain't doing Jay Elec or the album any favors.

Fred.

That's what numerous people have been saying, either no-one thinks it's classic or are stans if they do, which is false. Have seen people rate the album highly who haven't even heard Jay Electronica before or are not big fans, saw Genesis Elijah mention saying it was nuts and he said he wasn't even a fan.



I don't like that mindstate at all, dismissing normal people's opinions of an album, it's a superiority complex, I don't see why Fred from The Coli has a more valuable opinion than a Hip Hop head on another outlet? Normal people's opinions are very important, it was just posted to to prove what other's have said was incorrect, that's all, no-one got hurt by it so I think people need to relax trying to police what people say or post instead lol.

You said in a previous post that posting people's opinions was to say it was concrete proof the album was classic, this is a completely false premise that was never said, it's literally just something you made up and either a lack of understanding or done deliberately. That was never said and was clearly explained, it was posted as a rebuttal to prove something that was said was false.

And celebrities and rappers opinions aren't always more valuable than the general fans either, especially within an industry. It's all off an individual basis that's why I think shytting on other normal people's opinion's is very wrong. They are just Hip Hop heads, I actually follow some of them so I know some are far more versed in Hip Hop than many on here. But posted rappers such as Wise Intelligent, Papoose and many others also.

Yes I do, cause you're quoting me for no reason because am being positive about the album, yet ignoring the opinions the ones you initially said were clowns for saying it.

I don't know who "you cats" mean, so I don't know why you are mentioning that to me when I haven't called anybody dusty or any of that, infact I've repeatedly said people are entitled to their genuine opinion about the album whether positive or negative, all I said was not to dismiss other's opinons who are genuine. There's no problem with debating and discussion, I'm happy to do that when I have time with people if it's in a respectful and productive way where we put forth our views and either agree to disagree or we can debate it.

I can only speak for myself, I'm extremely confident in my opinion, you only have to read what I said in the part you cut out from the intial quote to see that. You don't speak on it in such depth unless you're extremely confident, it's genuine and has substance and reasoning behind it.

And I don't know what you're talking about about the Jewish thing, I don't know or care if you're Jewish or not nor have I called you Jewish. You sound like you're making a defense of yourself to an attack that wasn't made by me, why are you saying this to me? Lol. Why don't you go quote and speak to whoever said that to you, I didn't even see that. So maybe it's you who sounds a bit insecure and not confident, cause you're telling me your Coli life story because I made some positive posts about an album lol. I don't have a problem with you, I don't really know who you are other than a poster on the forum. If somebody has upset you I suggest you take it up with them individually cause I'm not even aware of most of these conversations that have happened, I am only speaking and represent myself. I'm not involved at all and haven't said anything personal to you disrespectfully regarding any of the issues you mentioned.

Nobody needs to do anything, all they have to do is say their opinions freely about the album and discuss it in the album discussion thread, positive or negative. Nobody is trying to do Jay Elec any "favours". this online shyt isn't serious at all, what is said in this thread isn't going to impact the wider listeners of the album off here. This isn't even a necessary conversation and is only distracting from speaking about the actual album the thread is about, as I said if somebody upset you it may be worth speaking to them about it directly whoever did it.

 

[H.J.Duck]

Holy shyt have I seen some weird shyt posted in this thread.

 

[hex]

That's what numerous people have been saying, either no-one thinks it's classic or are stans if they do, which is false. Have seen people rate the album highly who haven't even heard Jay Electronica before or are not big fans, saw Genesis Elijah mention saying it was nuts and he said he wasn't even a fan.



I don't like that mindstate at all, dismissing normal people's opinions of an album, it's a superiority complex, I don't see why Fred from The Coli has a more valuable opinion than a Hip Hop head on another outlet? Normal people's opinions are very important, it was just posted to to prove what other's have said was incorrect, that's all, no-one got hurt by it so I think people need to relax trying to police what people say or post instead lol.

You said in a previous post that posting a people's opinions was to say it was concrete proof the album was classic, this is a completely false premise that was never said, it's literally just something you made up and either a lack of understanding or a done deliberately. That was never said and was clearly explained, it was posted as a rebuttal to prove something that was said was false.

And celebrities and rappers opinions aren't always more valuable than the general fans either, especially an in industry. It's all off an individual basis that's why I think shytting on other normal people's opinion's is very wrong. They are just Hip Hop heads, I actually follow some of them so I know some are far more versed in Hip Hop than many on here. But posted rappers such as Wise Intelligent, Papoose and many others also.

Yes I do, cause you're quoting me for no reason because am being positive about the album, yet ignoring the opinions the ones you initially said were clowns for saying it.

I don't know who "you cats" mean, so I don't know why you are mentioning that to me when I haven't called anybody dusty or any of that, infact I've repeatedly said people are entitled to their genuine opinion about the album whether positive or negative, all I said was not to dismiss other's opinons who are genuine. There's no problem with debating and discussion, I'm happy to do that when I have time with people if it's in a respectful and productive way where we put forth our views and either agree to disagree or we can debate it.

I can only speak for myself, I'm extremely confident in my opinion, you only have to read what I said in the part you cut out from the intial quote to see that. You don't speak on in in such depth unless you're extremely confident,it's genuine and have substance behind it.

And I don't know what you're talking about about the Jewish thing, I don't know or care if you're Jewish or not nor have I called you Jewish. You sound like you're making a defense of yourself to attack that wasn't made by me, why are you saying this to me? Lol. Why don't you go quote and speak to whoever said that to you, I didn't even see that. So maybe it's you who sounds a bit insecure and not confident, cause you're telling me your Coli life story because I made some positive posts about an album lol. I don't have a problem with you, I don't really know who you are other than a poster on the forum. If somebody has upset you I suggest you take it up with them individually cause I'm not even aware of most of these conversations that have happened, I am only speaking and represent myself. I'm not involved at all and haven't said anything personal to you disrespectfully regarding any of the issues you mentioned.

Nobody needs to do anything, all they have to do is say their opinions freely about the album and discuss it in the album discussion thread, positive or negative. Nobody is trying to do Jay Elec any "favours". this online shyt isn't serious at all, what is said in this thread isn't going to impact the wider listeners of the album off here. This isn't even a necessary conversation and is only only distracting from speaking about the actual album the thread is about, as I said if somebody upset you it may be worth speaking to them about it directly whoever did it.

I never said my opinion means more than anyone else, and I don't care who said what on Twitter.

I told you, let your opinion stand on it's own two feet. You responded by posting more Tweets.

You don't seem confident. It looks like you're fishing for additional support from strangers, and the shyt is goofy to me.

I gave examples of the weird ass behavior in this thread. You posting Tweets. Cats calling people old over a 43 year old rapper. Cats calling people haters, when they said the album is actually dope. Cats accusing people of being Jewish.

I never said you did all that. I said all that shyt is emblematic of people not being secure in their opinion. Because if I thought this was a classic....I wouldn't be doing all this extra shyt. I'd be off listening to it, not sitting on The Coli arguing or posting 100 Tweets.

Fred.

 

[The Ruler 09]

I never said my opinion means more than anyone else, and I don't care who said what on Twitter.

I told you, let your opinion stand on it's own two feet. You responded by posting more Tweets.

You don't seem confident. It looks like you're fishing for additional support from strangers, and the shyt is goofy to me.

I gave examples of the weird ass behavior in this thread. You posting Tweets. Cats calling people old over a 43 year old rapper. Cats calling people haters, when they said the album is actually dope. Cats accusing people of being Jewish.

I never said you did all that. I said all that shyt is emblematic of people not being secure in their opinion. Because if I thought this was a classic....I wouldn't be doing all this extra shyt. I'd be off listening to it, not sitting on The Coli arguing or posting 100 Tweets.

Fred.

Pretty much are because you're dismissing other's opinions as just random people that don't matter, they are Hip Hop heads with as much a right as anybody else. As I said certainly some of them have way more credibility than the large majority on here.

I don't care what you tell me, it makes no difference or impact on me whatsoever, you're just a human being, I don't know why some have this superior attitude sometimes, it's weird. And I posted them because you started speaking about the numbers of likes and retweets like that had any significance lol, so I posted ones with over 1000's of likes, yet again to disprove what you said, which is why I posted the initial ones in the first place. It seems some want to contain things in a Coli bubble so they can control the narrative, nope not doing that, we can say what we like. It's not harming anybody at all.

I don't care if you think I'm confident or not in my opinion lol, do you think when I'm listening to the album and discussing it with people I know that have a vast array of knowledge and even well respected and credible rappers, even some legends that I'm thinking "Oh no, if I post Fred from The Coli might not think I sound confident" Lol. This online shyt has gone over the top for some of you for real lol, taking it way way too serious. Relax. Nothing was fishing, it's what actually has been said, and sentiment's shared by 1000's of people as I proved, I didn't ask or incite all those people to make those posts, just how they naturally feel. Just educating the people that were incorrect.

All the things you mentioned I didn't do any of them, apart from post some Hip Hop heads and artists opinion's on the album, IN THE ALBUM DISCUSSION thread where people are supposed to share their opinion's on the album lol. As I said if somebody specifically has hurt your feelings which is causing you to act out you have to take it up with them directly cause it has zero to do with me and I'm not even aware of what's been said.

I'm not sure of the sincerity in what you're saying, clearly if you've been following I've been listening to the album cause have discussed it in great detail and depth. Hopefully can continue to do that now if you've finished complaining about how somebody may have upset you in some way to somebody who hasn't said anything of the sort to you. Just speaking about the album, all the extra ish isn't of interest to me.

 

[H.J.Duck]

My main problems with this album. (Granted I'm not a fan and never was)

-How are you gonna average 1.2 verses/song on your debut album people (not me) have waited for 10+ years?

-I get that it's cool that you know Jay Z but c'mon. 1-2 feats on an album this short woulda been good enough. Then again the album woulda probably been 12 minutes long without him and all the instrumental outros, and Hov has been doing a lot of charity work in recent years so I get it.

-mixing is shyt but it wouldn't even matter if the material was better