Jason Momoa Responds To DCEU Speculation Around Lobo

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Jason Momoa should've never been cast as Aquaman in the first place. He looks nothing like Aquaman. Patrick Wilson, who played Ocean Master, was a better fit as Aquaman than Momoa.

Also, Lobo is usually an anti-hero. He's a goofy and crazy bounty hunter.


Nobody was paying to see Patrick Wilson do a cot damn thing.
Mamoa was excellent as aquaman.

If dc thinks they can throw away superheroes. That is why they fail and continue to fail.

They lucky jim lee is there. Or it would be eternally fukk dc from me.
jim lee is the only reason i give them a chance.
i do not even read one jim lee book over there that is how much i hate dc.
The company is trash and besides jim lee. There was never a cot damn thing good about dc ever the entire time I been Alive. Not even one story. NOt one comic book.

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Jason Momoa should've never been cast as Aquaman in the first place. He looks nothing like Aquaman. Patrick Wilson, who played Ocean Master, was a better fit as Aquaman than Momoa.

Also, Lobo is usually an anti-hero. He's a goofy and crazy bounty hunter.
Comic book fans have to stop treating these movies like cosplay comic cons. Mamoa was a great casting as he took a character with a bad "reputation" amongst casual fans and managed to make it "cool". Plus a Polynesian Aquaman makes vastly more sense than a lot of shyt audiences have eaten up concerning other comic book properties.
 

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Comic book fans have to stop treating these movies like cosplay comic cons. Mamoa was a great casting as he took a character with a bad "reputation" amongst casual fans and managed to make it "cool". Plus a Polynesian Aquaman makes vastly more sense than a lot of shyt audiences have eaten up concerning other comic book properties.


Really it is not comic book fans. It has always been dc. Then marvel became inept
Luckily the image boys were there to give a great day. Yet without the image boys comics were cooked beyond repair back in 88 damn near.
DC definitely never had anything leading up to this. I been Alive since 1976 and been an art prodigy since three and in museums for comic book character mask at 14. Plus comic school.

Comics have to be handled with care and the comic code is necessary.
These are legacy icons. Not movie characters. War were liberated from these characters. They have to be handled with extreme pedigreed care. The problem is the wrong people have been given the care. We will see if Gunn gets it. Yet his style is too camp and spoof. On the surface for me.
To get behind the serious expedition of saving dc. It is wait and see with me. With gun under heavy scrutiny.

As his spoof parody takes over everything style. Is not a mainstream comic book theme or direction. Those types of comics are not the headliner. Nor can a headline superhero in his own title. act in a spoof parody style manner or way. Which I do not know if Gunn can make. I get Gunn in suicide squad. I loved it actually. Yet it is a parody villain spoof. Anyone can get the heel over. The babyface being put over. Is where the real talent is.

Real talk......

Gunn should have hired speilberg to do superman. No bullshyt. Gunn should be doing plastic man or some spoof outlier title just like he made guardians pop. With him at the helm. I wonder why he would choose to tackle a project. So far from his wheelhouse. Gunn doing superman has that no talent john Krickfaluschi hack vibes. Being given. Then systelically fukkin up mighty mouse.
beyond the point of no return.

That is how offbrand Gunn at the helm of superman is.
It makes no logistic sense. Plus historically a spoof guy already ruined a mainstream pop gateway hero in mighty mouse. Why put superman in the same realm logistically on paper.

The people running this shyt. Have no idea, pulse, gateway, or brain trust in this sector. Why are they in charge and offer no upside on paper for this business.

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Really it is not comic book fans. It has always been dc. Then marvel became inept
Luckily the image boys were there to give a great day. Yet without the image boys comics were cooked beyond repair back in 88 damn near.
DC definitely never had anything leading up to this. I been Alive since 1976 and been an art prodigy since three and in museums for comic book character mask at 14. Plus comic school.

Comics have to be handled with care and the comic code is necessary.
These are legacy icons. Not movie characters. War were liberated from these characters. They have to be handled with extreme pedigreed care. The problem is the wrong people have been given the care. We will see if Gunn gets it. Yet his style is too camp and spoof. On the surface for me.
To get behind the serious expedition of saving dc. It is wait and see with me. With gun under heavy scrutiny.

As his spoof parody takes over everything style. Is not a mainstream comic book theme or direction. Those types of comics are not the headliner. Nor can a headline superhero in his own title. act in a spoof parody style manner or way. Which I do not know if Gunn can make. I get Gunn in suicide squad. I loved it actually. Yet it is a parody villain spoof. Anyone can get the heel over. The babyface being put over. Is where the real talent is.

Real talk......

Gunn should have hired speilberg to do superman. No bullshyt. Gunn should be doing plastic man or some spoof outlier title just like he made guardians pop. With him at the helm. I wonder why he would choose to tackle a project. So far from his wheelhouse. Gunn doing superman has that no talent john Krickfaluschi hack vibes. Being given. Then systelically fukkin up mighty mouse.
beyond the point of no return.

That is how offbrand Gunn at the helm of superman is.
It makes no logistic sense. Plus historically a spoof guy already ruined a mainstream pop gateway hero in mighty mouse. Why put superman in the same realm logistically on paper.

The people running this shyt. Have no idea, pulse, gateway, or brain trust in this sector. Why are they in charge and offer no upside on paper for this business.

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I'm not completely sold on Gunn, but we've watched borderline spoof movies continue to make billions from Disney. I'm not asking for that, I'm questioning putting faith in audiences that that type of shyt isn't what they want.
 

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Comic book fans have to stop treating these movies like cosplay comic cons. Mamoa was a great casting as he took a character with a bad "reputation" amongst casual fans and managed to make it "cool". Plus a Polynesian Aquaman makes vastly more sense than a lot of shyt audiences have eaten up concerning other comic book properties.
They could have made Aquaman "cool" without Momoa. For example, DCAU Aquaman was cool.

Don't get me wrong though, I liked the first Aquaman movie (I haven't watched the second one) but Momoa simply wasn't Aquaman to me.
 

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They could have made Aquaman "cool" without Momoa. For example, DCAU Aquaman was cool.

Don't get me wrong though, I liked the first Aquaman movie (I haven't watched the second one) but Momoa simply wasn't Aquaman to me.
:russ: Even Momoa himself thought that he’ll make a better Lobo than Aquaman lol.
 

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They could have made Aquaman "cool" without Momoa. For example, DCAU Aquaman was cool.

Don't get me wrong though, I liked the first Aquaman movie (I haven't watched the second one) but Momoa simply wasn't Aquaman to me.
That's fine. I'm not legislating emotion. I just find it weird that comic book fans can stomach different versions and iterations of characters nearly ever other year, in the source material , but find a medium where people are literally acting to be the one where they need the characters to be cosplays. Patrick Wilson is a superior actor: he's not gonna get the dude bros to watch a cbm. And again, cbm fans have shown they allow the utmost of silliness and uncharacteristic portrayals when they feel like it.
 

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Really it is not comic book fans. It has always been dc. Then marvel became inept
Luckily the image boys were there to give a great day. Yet without the image boys comics were cooked beyond repair back in 88 damn near.
DC definitely never had anything leading up to this. I been Alive since 1976 and been an art prodigy since three and in museums for comic book character mask at 14. Plus comic school.

Comics have to be handled with care and the comic code is necessary.
These are legacy icons. Not movie characters. War were liberated from these characters. They have to be handled with extreme pedigreed care. The problem is the wrong people have been given the care.
We will see if Gunn gets it. Yet his style is too camp and spoof. On the surface for me.
To get behind the serious expedition of saving dc. It is wait and see with me. With gun under heavy scrutiny.

As his spoof parody takes over everything style. Is not a mainstream comic book theme or direction. Those types of comics are not the headliner. Nor can a headline superhero in his own title. act in a spoof parody style manner or way. Which I do not know if Gunn can make. I get Gunn in suicide squad. I loved it actually. Yet it is a parody villain spoof. Anyone can get the heel over. The babyface being put over. Is where the real talent is.

Real talk......

Gunn should have hired speilberg to do superman. No bullshyt. Gunn should be doing plastic man or some spoof outlier title just like he made guardians pop. With him at the helm. I wonder why he would choose to tackle a project. So far from his wheelhouse. Gunn doing superman has that no talent john Krickfaluschi hack vibes. Being given. Then systelically fukkin up mighty mouse.
beyond the point of no return.

That is how offbrand Gunn at the helm of superman is.
It makes no logistic sense. Plus historically a spoof guy already ruined a mainstream pop gateway hero in mighty mouse. Why put superman in the same realm logistically on paper.

The people running this shyt. Have no idea, pulse, gateway, or brain trust in this sector. Why are they in charge and offer no upside on paper for this business.

Art Barr

To be fair brother, and you've touched on this, but those within the comic industry don't even do that. So it becomes a fine line.

Black Panther is the classic example. A billion dollar headliner suppressed/shelved for two decades (80s and 90s) until Quesada forced/begged Priest to do something with the character in 1998. Two decades wasted in and outside of the comics, and he was playing catch-up ever since until the movie -flawed as the depiction was- leap-frogged him from mid-card to super baby face main eventer. John Stewart is another example. Brought up to be the legacy character after Hal Jordan but they tried to skip over him with Kyle, then paralyzed him, tried to kill him off... but because Dwyane McDuffie and Bruce Timm main-evented him in a cartoon... WB execs were like hold up, fukk is you comic ppl doin trying to squash this well-received negro character?

Blade is another example. Wesley's depiction was inaccurate as fukk but it saved the character; kept him on a respirator as a niche mid-carter with main event potential. For the popular white male characters like Wolverine, Batman, Spider-Man, etc., care was already largely given historically to give them a fair chance to be headliners and then cultivate them once success was found, and so it's just a matter of facilitating a seamless transition/handover to outside media (movies, cartoons, games). For the others, especially the black ones, it's borderline reversed; which makes things more chaotic bc a Coogler doesn't understand a T'Challa like a Priest... but there aren't many Priests to cultivate the character bc of complexion issues within the industry.
 

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I'm not completely sold on Gunn, but we've watched borderline spoof movies continue to make billions from Disney. I'm not asking for that, I'm questioning putting faith in audiences that that type of shyt isn't what they want.


Disney is a gateway princess model ip company. Past their princess gateway content and audience.
Disney usually never can hold up. When it comes to properties outside of this realm. Even when they try to branch out to other realms. As they are too greedy and based in trying to overproduce and commercialized everything into being a mouseketeer.
Disney can and has changed the entire general revenue grab aesthetic.
into their princess mousketeer thing. Yet that will not and does not translate.
to any other ip long term. Nor does it work. When applied to other companies . Film houses, networks, or physical sales items, Etc.
Even Disney ruining star wars. Thee revenue grab blockbuster of all blockbusters. Signals all of this.

This is dc. The original gateway film house for superheros. From comic books. Not cartoons.

Comic books...
Not Disney princess musical cartoons.
This is comics. Comix.
Comic books.
Flagship Comic book generational gateway ip's.

Not Disney.
Or spoof goofie steve-o's dad wants everyone to be clown. Simply because stev-o got a phd in actual clown school. Or off beat parodies. This is not a hack making indie comics. This is the actual real thing. As far as selling any item in america.

How they are letting this parody style take reign over in the trailer. For superman and in krypto. Sorry not buying this John kricfalushi take on mighty mouse. As I seen mighty mouse get banned from this clown shyt. Although I am not privy

to superman tales in Comic books. It is still superman and at the core of every man, boy, and most women and child. Is superman at their core layer. So handling superman is nO joke.
Sohh hopefully Gunn in all his parody spoof minded ideals. Curbs this John kricfalushi mighty mouse thing.
Gunn has in his style for superman and dc. As the mighty mouse was banned on CBS. Which is a warner network. Sohh hopefully someone who is supposed to be paid to know these things. Is some suit somewhere. That can being this all in at the new discovery owned channel warner bros. Yet discovery for all their prude informational docuseries channel ideals meets npr made commercial for tv direction content.
Hopefully someone working for pretentious discovery channel. Knows the brain trust of comics. From proper discovery.
To reign Gunn in.

As it is no excuse.

As again mighty mouse was banned by Jon kricfalushi's take. Then reused.
to fukk up a generation on a vaicom network as well. So.. even on the books. It says to apply the right creator to the right property. Sohh if Gunn is not reined in. It speaks on the sheer ineptitude at Warner.





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*i remember this shyt without google too. That is how jarring mighty mouse being banned for a hack creator is. People never forget. I. Believe people never forgot.
they killed superman and dc broke batman's back. That wb needs to realize. You may not have anymore chances with this. So get it right.


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To be fair brother, and you've touched on this, but those within the comic industry don't even do that. So it becomes a fine line.

Black Panther is the classic example. A billion dollar headliner suppressed/shelved for two decades (80s and 90s) until Quesada forced/begged Priest to do something with the character in 1998. Two decades wasted in and outside of the comics, and he was playing catch-up ever since until the movie -flawed as the depiction was- leap-frogged him from mid-card to super baby face main eventer. John Stewart is another example. Brought up to be the legacy character after Hal Jordan but they tried to skip over him with Kyle, then paralyzed him, tried to kill him off... but because Dwyane McDuffie and Bruce Timm main-evented him in a cartoon... WB execs were like hold up, fukk is you comic ppl doin trying to squash this well-received negro character?

Blade is another example. Wesley's depiction was inaccurate as fukk but it saved the character; kept him on a respirator as a niche mid-carter with main event potential. For the popular white male characters like Wolverine, Batman, Spider-Man, etc., care was already largely given historically to give them a fair chance to be headliners and then cultivate them once success was found, and so it's just a matter of facilitating a seamless transition/handover to outside media (movies, cartoons, games). For the others, especially the black ones, it's borderline reversed; which makes things more chaotic bc a Coogler doesn't understand a T'Challa like a Priest... but there aren't many Priests to cultivate the character bc of complexion issues within the industry.



Well black panther is a deeply coded slash culture driven property. That has a lot to unpack.
Which are a total different. Yet at times similar discussion.
That i do not wanna compare superman to black panther. At all...as the model for superman to work. Does not work when applied to urban ideals. To make superman into some commercialized nineties urban spoof take.
If handled by a corporation. As that is all they see. Ehich is why bp. On another subject is a bigger conversation than superman.

Superman has issues because no relevent story in print has had traction. To gain a moder following.
to make a nre superman core fan base wanna be vocal enough.
That a certain superman arc has to be told.
Whereas marvel characters. Generally have an arc. That the most darkhorse reader wants to see on the silver screen. From a major motion film house with resources and a name. Superman is difficult in a ways.

that black panther although different can face similar issues with sustaining a draw. That are juxtaposed.
while being comparably similar to bp.
Incomparison to bp and most marvel characters. Which are welled and ground in supposed reality based geography.
Which I have spoke on indepthly in the comparison thread or marvel vs dc here or on :sohh:.
That my comments are still relevent to this topic. Yet i don't want this topic to overshadow superman. As superman is actually grounded in a reality based geographical location. Sohh superman is one of the dc outliers. That ground him in reality. Yet superman is an entirely fictional construct. While also being completely the general auper Jewish archetype of the Schuster and sigel era. Sohh superman has to handled with actual acute care. Given the age and what superman is as the actual gateway archetype of numerous landmarks. In life.

This is superman.

It is not a steve-o clown school phd comedy style joke. Wherr steve-o plays the world as this methheqd junkie fukk up. When in reality steve-o is teh golden spoon of the leqd cadre of pos ceos in the world. That this world has fallen complete utterly victim too.

In that superman has to be told and executed right. While being surrounded by a bunch of brainless parody based idiots. Who probably don't live by anything superman iss supposed to stand for. Yet we have to hope. these nefarious leader types.
craft thee good guy gateway character in rhe proper light.

To re-establish there gateway dominance and monopoly tho.
Yet if they fail. We get even more of their pos way of capitalistic life.

Sohh....
The world needs a superman movie done right. As a consolation for all this bullshyt.

Like real talk.

Why even believe or work for these people if they can not get this shyt right. That is what they are playing with. A world with no main gateway moral center of good.

After running star wars. When star wars created the very effect to even grt superman on the silver screen properly done right back then. That is how fukked up it is. Without superman done right.

When superman is fukked up.

The world is fukked up.

So superman has to be done right.

More is at stake. Than just a comic book character, or money. Superman means more than any of that.

Sohh superman has to be done right. This is thee final tipping point.
Where a moral center of good gateway needs to be re-established entirely in draw.
A lot is counting on this.

As superman is bigger than us all and we are better people.
Just from superman being created. That is how powerful and important superman is.
To human decent life.
Sohh again superman has a lot to unpack. Maybe more than any product being this large a gateway all time. Yet the forum and discovery to build a proper brain trust to make superman a success.
Has to occur. Or the world will suffer. From a lack of a proper superman.


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