Essential Japanese Wrestling Discussion/News

[Jmare007]

Se after 18 months and people saying Kento kept winning because he had to surpass Kawada's record....he fukking lost the Triple Cown to SUWAMA on his 11th defense. He only tied Kawada and beat every young promising guy that could've gotten over


Now you gonna agree Uncle Jun fukked up? @Scottie Drippin

 

[Scottie Drippin]

Se after 18 months and people saying Kento kept winning because he had to surpass Kawada's record....he fukking lost the Triple Cown to SUWAMA on his 11th defense. He only tied Kawada and beat every young promising guy that could've gotten over


Now you gonna agree Uncle Jun fukked up? @Scottie Drippin

I was never on the beating Kawada train of thought and didn't even realize that was a talking point, but this all only made sense if he dropped it to a young boy. Honestly this is so random, bizarre, and left field I'm just gonna charge it to the coronavirus or Jun is doing the couple quick reigns thing and a young guy winds up with it and defends against Kento.

 

[stro]

Brody/Hansen tags when their opponents make them work for everything

 

[MenacingMonk]

Hopefully they return in August/September. Just do the NJ Cup instead of the G1. Make it a 4-5 night tournament. Winner faces the champ at WK.

 

[THE 101]

Man these smaller Japanese promotions don't give a fukk

 

[Jmare007]

Man these smaller Japanese promotions don't give a fukk

Most of them have gotten small crowds even for their standards but All Japan got 1,200 people at Korakuen today and the Triple Crown starts in 2 weeks

 

[stro]

I never really put it together much but Hiromu has a lot of Great Kabuki energy, especially Kabuki's initial return from excursion and debut of the gimmick in AJPW in early 1983.

 

[MightyHealthy]

I never really put it together much but Hiromu has a lot of Great Kabuki energy, especially Kabuki's initial return from excursion and debut of the gimmick in AJPW in early 1983.

What makes you draw those comparisons? Not knocking, just so genuinely unsure of what you mean. Break it down for me as the idiot I am, lol

 

[stro]

What makes you draw those comparisons? Not knocking, just so genuinely unsure of what you mean. Break it down for me as the idiot I am, lol

Well I'm into 1983 in the AJPW Archive and Kabuki has just returned from excursion and debuted the gimmick in All Japan and there's just this weird manic energy to it that he didn't show when doing the gimmick in the US. Physically there's a lot of weird tics and explosiveness that just remind me a lot of Hiromu. I can't point to one specific thing, there's just a shared energy.

Also wtf Onita was legit as hell as a straight wrestler, why the fukk did he become the death match dude?

 

[Jmare007]

Also wtf Onita was legit as hell as a straight wrestler, why the fukk did he become the death match dude?

Because his body broke down. As you haven been seeing, doing the stuff he was doing was going to catch up to him. Specially considering the era he was doing it.

His trip to Memphis probably played a big part too, dude learned he could get away with a ton of shyt of he just umped the fukkery and bells and whistles.

 

[stro]

Yeah I mentioned in an earlier post that his dives were no doubt shaving years off of his career because no one knew how to catch and he'd just die on them every time. He was basically landing face first on every dive for 2 years.

But like....he could have cut back on those and only did them against lucha guys, his in ring style wasn't any more violent or body destroying than what Jumbo/Tenryu/Funk were doing.

 

[Jmare007]

@stro Decided to check with BAHU, actually, it was a fukkery accident and you are close to running out of good Onita

In the middle of his big push, Onita finally won the NWA Junior Heavyweight Championship by defeating Chavo Guerrero Sr. Onita received the belt and a trophy for his highly contested victory but when Chavo went to shake his hand, he shocked the fans by grabbing Onita and back suplexing him. Chavo Sr. proceeded to destroy the trophy by continuously hitting Onita and attacking him with it for a prolonged period of time, leaving him a bloody mess inside the ring. This angle even if done today would surely turn heads and get people talking.

Unfortunately, in the middle of this push by Baba, real tragedy struck after a match in 1983 against Hector Guerrero. Onita slipped on some water outside of the ring and wound up tearing ligaments, cartilage and shattering his kneecap.

After surgery and recovery, Onita came back in late 1984 but it was obvious to Baba that Onita was much slower and wasn’t the same dynamic junior heavyweight that was for a short period of time chosen to be the ace to lead the division, so he had to let him go. Barely a month after his return, Onita was forced to retire in early 1985.

Dude stay retired for years before coming up with his "Inokism" idea of creating FMW.

 

[stro]

I actually just watched that match yesterday, it's pretty good, the end angle is a blood bath. Onita ends up with a giant gash on his arm that ended up being bandaged for 2 months. Ghosts of things to come as he's covered in blood and screaming. They had to drag him out wrapped up in one of the floor mats like a burrito

AJPW's junior stuff certainly couldn't compare to what Tiger Mask and Dynamite were doing at the same time, but Onita seemed like a sure fire star and ace of the division.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Hey purobrehs.


Here is my gift to you all



Enjoy and take care

 

[stro]

1983 is really pretty interesting for AJPW. Jumbo has moved to his all black gear and has taken over as the clear ace and top star from Baba who is phasing himself out as a singles star (most of his singles matches are short nothing matches with low card gaijin, with his only big matches being against Hansen, Brody, and Harley), Tenryu has adopted black and yellow as his colors and had just started doing the gamenguri (and he was CLIPPING THE fukk out of dudes with it) and is starting to be clearly elevated up the cards, Abdullah/Sheik have been replaced with Tiger Jeet Singh/Ueda, and finishing sequences are starting to get more complex. For that I think I'd credit Stan Hansen more than anyone, as I really started noticing it with him and the lariat going through fake outs and reversals or dodges before smashing someone with it from a different angle and it kind of spread to the other top guys from there.

On top of that, Misawa and Kawada are working more matches (in fact I believe they have their first singles match in 1983), Kabuki came back from excursion and was an immediate star, Onita was on fire until he got hurt but that also led to Fuchi's rise in the junior division. A lot of the pieces of classic AJPW are coming together, and this is before Choshu jumps ship