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I'm watching this right now, and when did New Japan start messing with MMA again? Didn't their first experiment with it cause them to have a few down years?

Yeah, what they're doing now isn't nearly as stupid as what was going on when Inoki was still running things. You won't see top guys embarrassing themselves in legitimate fights in this era.

A couple years ago they had Sakuraba/Shibata come in as invading MMA outsiders, and it worked out really well because they're actually experienced wrestlers who can deliver in the ring. This year they brought in two obscure members of the Gracie family to do a program with Nakamura, and it's been all kinds of terrible.

I'd like to see Josh Barnett back in the company whenever he finishes up with UFC.
 

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Few Observer notes. AJPW is such a mess :snoop:
There is a major internal shakeup going on. I don’t have all the details but the fallout is that Tokyo Sports reported on 6/4 is that all the wrestlers were planning on leaving the company and that Jun Akiyama would start up as the president of a new company on 7/1. All the wrestlers had only signed six month deals, which says something about owner Nobuo Shiraishi’s commitment, so all contracts expired on 6/30 and the wrestlers are free to leave. As best we can tell, and this was all breaking at press time, is that all of the wrestlers are tired of Shiraishi and his decisions regarding running the company and the things he says in social media and they want out. They cite the decline in attendance to show that his direction isn’t working. The attendance wasn’t good at the start and the promotion was deep in red ink when Shiraishi bought the company after years of management by Keiji Muto. Muto and Shiraishi had problems from the start which led to Muto leaving and forming Wrestle-1, taking much of the talent with him, and business plunged even more. The wrestlers want to completely revamp the product. Akiyama would be the public face of the company as the biggest star but the guys who were handling the wrestling end were referee Kyohei Wada and veteran Masa Fuchi. Nobody wants to work for Shiraishi but right now they don’t have access to any financial support. Akiyama has reportedly talked with Motoko Baba about getting back into pro wrestling as the owner. I can’t see that at all, since she retired in 2002 and had no more interest at that point in her life to run the company or carry on the business without her husband, who passed away in 1999. Plus, almost all the wrestlers that were around in 2000, including Akiyama, quit All Japan largely because of her, to form Pro Wrestling NOAH. There is talk of them starting up and having to use a different name if Shiraishi doesn’t sell or give up power. Other things said are that the first show of the new group would be 7/12 in Osaka and that they are talking with Baba about reviving the original three belts from the 70s, the old PWF, International and United National belts for the Triple Crown. Baba owned the belts themselves and spent years trying to get them back as Muto, when he was president, never returned them to her. Shiraishi created a new Triple Crown singular belt and returned the original belts to Baba.

Triple Crown champion Akebono, 45, who hovers near 500 pounds, had been out of action due to pneumonia for the last six weeks. He was discharged from the hospital, but was brought back in due to an irregular heartbeat. All Japan this past week finally announced that he was going to have to vacate the title and they will have a match on 6/15 at Korakuen Hall to determine the new champion, between Takao Omori, who won the Champion Carnival, and Akiyama, who is the company’s biggest name wrestler.

With KENTA gone, it looks like they are trying to build around Takashi Sugiura & Masato Tanaka as a tag team as the kinds of both NOAH and Zero-One. Sugiura & Tanaka hold the NWA Intercontinental tag titles for Zero-One and earned a GHC tag title shot winning the Global Tag Team tournament last month. That shot took place on 5/31 at Differ Ariake, and they won the titles from Takeshi Morishima & Maybach Taniguchi in 23:19 when Tanaka hit Taniguchi with the sliding D and Sugiura followed with the Olympic slam. The bad news is that in their home arena, they only drew about 900 fans (announced as 1,200), much lower than they usually had been doing in the building, for the company’s first significant show in the market since KENTA’s farewell. Also, Sugiura did not appear at the 6/4 show in Aizu Wakamatsu, and they said he was off the rest of the tour due to poor physical condition, which doesn’t help the talent depth issue. Sugiura is 44 and has working a hard, physical style forever as he used to take beatings in matches even on his way up. They had another title match on the show as Daisuke Harada retained the GHC jr. title beating Quiet Storm in 16:01 with a German suplex.

There is a story regarding Taichi that has gotten some mainstream pub in Japan. Taichi, who is married, had risque photos taken with another woman. In an unbelievable lack of common sense, had posted them on the Internet. When the story broke, there was a lot of speculation that he would be kicked off of the Super Juniors tournament. New Japan Chairman Naoki Sugabayashi said that Taichi could participate in the tournament but that they are investigating the situation and said that he could get a warning, a fine or even a suspension.

Togi Makabe ended up with a broken jaw from the kick by Hirooki Goto in the tag team match on the 5/25 show at the Yokohama Arena. The spot was Goto & Katsuyori Shibata going for a double clothesline as Makabe came off the ropes, him ducking and his usual spot is coming off the other side and clotheslining both. However, in crossing up the usual, when he came off the ropes, they both threw a kick aimed at his chest. However, for him to make it look like he was doing the double clothesline, it required him to lean forward, and in doing so, Goto’s kick nailed his chin and mouth and his lower lip in particular just got smashed.

Karl Anderson seems to have a lot of input now in bringing new foreigners in. Besides Adam Cole, who we’ve mentioned already, it looks like several new wrestlers from the U.S. will be debuting here in a few months.
 

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Few Observer notes. AJPW is such a mess :snoop:
So Akiyama's idea to replace a dumpster fire (Shiraishi) is with a train wreck (Baba)? Thats Vince levels of stupid.

Said it before and ill say it again, Akebono is that biggest waste of space in All Japan since Arashi.

Taichi getting suspended for that is hilarious. He should get a push for doing Takahashi's gimmick better than him.

Hopefully Cole will have a bit more intense offense after a couple of Japanese tours. That Florida Key finisher has to go. Good for Machine Gun too :obama:
 

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So Akiyama's idea to replace a dumpster fire (Shiraishi) is with a train wreck (Baba)? Thats Vince levels of stupid.

Said it before and ill say it again, Akebono is that biggest waste of space in All Japan since Arashi.

Taichi getting suspended for that is hilarious. He should get a push for doing Takahashi's gimmick better than him.

Hopefully Cole will have a bit more intense offense after a couple of Japanese tours. That Florida Key finisher has to go. Good for Machine Gun too :obama:

I couldn't even properly reply to the All Japan news. Just mindbending. :mindblown:

Taichi's in the BOSJ semis, and it's not like he's ever been a major player in the division like that, so :yeshrug:. Hate that morality clause shyt in general, though.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Adam Cole is overrated as fukk for no good reason. I've never seen what everyone else sees in him. New Japan badly needs juniors, though, so it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to bring him in and see what he can contribute.
 

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I couldn't even properly reply to the All Japan news. Just mindbending. :mindblown:

Taichi's in the BOSJ semis, and it's not like he's ever been a major player in the division like that, so :yeshrug:. Hate that morality clause shyt in general, though.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Adam Cole is overrated as fukk for no good reason. I've never seen what everyone else sees in him. New Japan badly needs juniors, though, so it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to bring him in and see what he can contribute.
Cole is the definition of "meh" but the indies need guys like him and Bennett to round out the styles. He has plenty of time and room to grow and a sure fit for WWE some day
 

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Guess who's this year's BOSJ winner...


























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Results from the final day (via StrongStyleSpirit):

NJPW, 6/8/14 (WPW/iPPV)
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1. Hiroyoshi Tenzan, Satoshi Kojima, BUSHI & Kenny Omega
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beat Mascara Don, Jushin Thunder Liger, Tiger Mask & Mascara Dorada (8:35) when Omega used the Croyt’s Wrath on Dorada.
2. Rocky Romero & Gedo beat Kota Ibushi & El Desperado (10:07) when Romero used a Kurayami piledriver on Desperado.
3. Hirooki Goto & Katsuyori Shibata beat Yuji Nagata & Captain New Japan (10:49) when Goto used the Shouten Kai on Captain.
4. Best of the Super Jr. – Semi Final: KUSHIDA beat Taichi (7:29) with the Hoverboard Lock.
5. Best of the Super Jr. – Semi Final: Ricochet beat Ryusuke Taguchi (5:49) with the Benadryller.
6. Minoru Suzuki & Takashi Iizuka beat Toru Yano & Jado (9:52) when Suzuki used a Gotch-style piledriver on Jado.
7. Hiroshi Tanahashi, Tetsuya Naito & Tomoaki Honma beat Karl Anderson, Doc Gallows & Tama Tonga (10:15) when Tanahashi used the High Fly Flow on Tonga.
8. Bad Luck Fale, Yujiro Takahashi, Matt Jackson & Nick Jackson beat Shinsuke Nakamura, Kazuchika Okada, Tomohiro Ishii & YOSHI-HASHI (17:59) when Fale used the Bad Luck Fall on YOSHI-HASHI.
9. Best of the Super Jr. – Final: Ricochet beat KUSHIDA (23:06) with the Benadryller.

I'm SO ready for that Jr. Heavyweight title matchup.
 

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I've said it before and I'll say it again: Adam Cole is overrated as fukk for no good reason. I've never seen what everyone else sees in him.

He's rated highly because he's the most well rounded out of the current crop of indie guys. Seems pretty obvious to me really. Compare his promos and character work with a guy like Elgin for example, and there is just a massive disparity in talent there.
 

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NJPW “DOMINION 6.21″, 6/21/14 (WPW/iPPV)
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1. IWGP Jr. Tag Team Title: Matt Jackson & Nick Jackson (c) vs. KUSHIDA & Alex Shelley
2. Tetsuya Naito vs. Tama Tonga
3. Yuji Nagata & Tomoaki Honma vs. Hirooki Goto & Katsuyori Shibata
4. NWA World Tag Team Title: Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima (c) vs. Lance Archer & Davey Boy Smith Jr.
5. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Title: Kota Ibushi (c) vs. Ricochet
6. Special Tag Match: Toru Yano & Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Minoru Suzuki & Takashi Iizuka
7. Special Tag Match: Kazuchika Okada & Tomohiro Ishii vs. AJ Styles & Yujiro Takahashi
8. IWGP Tag Team Title: Karl Anderson & Doc Gallows (c) vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi & Togi Makabe
9. IWGP Intercontinental Title: Shinsuke Nakamura (c) vs. Bad Luck Fale

Suzuki/Sakuraba getting set up :lupe:
 

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He's rated highly because he's the most well rounded out of the current crop of indie guys. Seems pretty obvious to me really. Compare his promos and character work with a guy like Elgin for example, and there is just a massive disparity in talent there.
Am I missing something on Elgin ? He's also kind of bland to me . Outside of steen and briscoes a lot of these guys seem to just be able to wrestle well but personality wise :yawn: I didn't love age of the fall but I could see how Tyler black could be good in wwe these other guys though not so much
 

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Am I missing something on Elgin ? He's also kind of bland to me . Outside of steen and briscoes a lot of these guys seem to just be able to wrestle well but personality wise :yawn: I didn't love age of the fall but I could see how Tyler black could be good in wwe these other guys though not so much
Elgin isnt atrocious on the mic, he just isnt good. I dont think a gimmick suits him well. His ring work says it for him kinda like Cesaro. Hes also a better heel than a face
 
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