Essential Japanese Wrestling Discussion/News

[Silkk]

Well, that was obviously the plan from the start, although I think it was kind of dumb, since the people watching/going to ROH are probably going to watch NJ anyway. I doubt they converted many people who randomly tuned into ROH at 2 AM on a Wednesday.

They converted me

 

[stro]

You guys really weren't aware of NJ or how to find NJ shows online before ROH? Seriously? 2015 ROH being your gateway drug

 

[Mr. Negative]

Kevin Sullivan is saying NJPW played ROH to up their presence in the US in anticipation of their foray into the US market and now are ready to toss ROH in the bushes since NJPW hired former ROH exec George Carroll to run their US operations.

imagine those folks showing up in Lucha Underground.

in 2018

 

[Jmare007]

You guys really weren't aware of NJ or how to find NJ shows online before ROH? Seriously? 2015 ROH being your gateway drug

I can't talk for Silkk and Rayzah but I think much of the people that started to get into New Japan from 2012 knew that it existed but had no real interest in finding it. What ROH did was make people go and move from their comfort zone.

I think on one hand you had the F4WONline group that started to pay attention to it because Dave fell in love with the product. That gave New Japan some buzz, twitter fandom became more aware of it and sites like VOW started to gather more of a following. In 1-2 years that buzz became a "thing" within the IWC so NJ and their wrestlers became more well known.

Then you have the ROH fans that probably knew about the company and their stars but didn't see the point of seeking their stuff out. Once they saw them in ROH and what they could do, everything clicked for them and started to look on their own.

 

[Beautiful Bobby Eatin]

Man, Kyle’s been trash for a long time. His entire career, especially since his reputation has grown, is just spamming the moves of proper ring technicians who knew how to do compelling limb-work and tell proper stories. The KOR praise that often comes from the same people who hate on flippy spot monkeys is absurd, and highlights just how skin deep so much wrestling critique is.

Just because he’s doing a bunch of arm stuff and ends with a submission has people ignoring he does arm stuff with no rhyme or reason, and doesn’t even execute stuff as well as the people he’s taken it from, and that his matches regularly devolve into complete nonsense.

He’s had good singles stuff with Cole, AJ, and KUSHIDA, and that’s a testament to their ability, not his.

Don’t know what caused it, but I’m happy after a few years of collective insanity, the “Kyle is great” or even the “Kyle is good” movement is coming to a halt.

Personally I realized how much better Bobby Fish is than Kyle O'Reilly. Kyle is a base wrestler. He does what he does. His match is only as good as what his opponent puts into it (I feel that way about Naito too but i still dig him). But Kyle has NOT improved since 2012 in any way and thats why i cant fukk with him like I used to. And if he keeps fukking around a guy like Matt Riddle who is still within 2 years in the biz is going to surpass him.

 

[3Rivers]

Adios

 

[3Rivers]

 

[stro]

Hope there is an award ceremony and Naito casually tears up a news paper/magazine

 

[Rayzah]

I can't talk for Silkk and Rayzah but I think much of the people that started to get into New Japan from 2012 knew that it existed but had no real interest in finding it. What ROH did was make people go and move from their comfort zone.

I think on one hand you had the F4WONline group that started to pay attention to it because Dave fell in love with the product. That gave New Japan some buzz, twitter fandom became more aware of it and sites like VOW started to gather more of a following. In 1-2 years that buzz became a "thing" within the IWC so NJ and their wrestlers became more well known.

Then you have the ROH fans that probably knew about the company and their stars but didn't see the point of seeking their stuff out. Once they saw them in ROH and what they could do, everything clicked for them and started to look on their own.

Yea pretty much. We needed a cosign first lol. Can't just be just randomly watching shyt, I'm joking but seriously I don't have time to be going through the process of discovering new shyt so I wait until I see it on something I'm familiar with. It's not the best way but I'm sure a lot of people do the same. Oh and I heard AJ styles was there and when Jim Ross agreed to do wk9 I was interested

 

[MightyHealthy]

I had a faint interest in puro, but I dove in with @3Rivers G1 Climax 25 thread, and @Honga Ciganesta (Continue To Get Well) and @The Rainmaker were consistent with quality informative posts.

 

[Jmare007]

I had a faint interest in puro, but I dove in with @3Rivers G1 Climax 25 thread, and @Honga Ciganesta (Continue To Get Well) and @The Rainmaker were consistent with quality informative posts.

fukk you breh

 

[Silkk]

I can't talk for Silkk and Rayzah but I think much of the people that started to get into New Japan from 2012 knew that it existed but had no real interest in finding it. What ROH did was make people go and move from their comfort zone.

I think on one hand you had the F4WONline group that started to pay attention to it because Dave fell in love with the product. That gave New Japan some buzz, twitter fandom became more aware of it and sites like VOW started to gather more of a following. In 1-2 years that buzz became a "thing" within the IWC so NJ and their wrestlers became more well known.

Then you have the ROH fans that probably knew about the company and their stars but didn't see the point of seeking their stuff out. Once they saw them in ROH and what they could do, everything clicked for them and started to look on their own.

Yea pretty much. We needed a cosign first lol. Can't just be just randomly watching shyt, I'm joking but seriously I don't have time to be going through the process of discovering new shyt so I wait until I see it on something I'm familiar with. It's not the best way but I'm sure a lot of people do the same. Oh and I heard AJ styles was there and when Jim Ross agreed to do wk9 I was interested

I had a faint interest in puro, but I dove in with @3Rivers G1 Climax 25 thread, and @Honga Ciganesta (Continue To Get Well) and @The Rainmaker were consistent with quality informative posts.

Jeff Jarrett threw me the intro with WK9

Then War of the Worlds hooked me

 

[MightyHealthy]

fukk you breh

You were on that fukk Gedo wave before I even endured the first Guerrillas of Destiny reign

 

[Scottie Drippin]

@Jmare007 my mans Konosuke locking up with Mike Bailey in January.

Get ready for a spectacle

 

[Jmare007]

@Jmare007 my mans Konosuke locking up with Mike Bailey in January.

Get ready for a spectacle

I still got 6 months of Big Japan and DDT to catch up to