Jade Cargill has improved dramatically since her debut. Why is TSC not talking about it?

[SpacelySprockets]

Bring objective to the facts.

Since no one in general in this community has supplied a rant of bianca.
In timeline.
This forum has no way to really say bianca is better.

As there is no forum anything.
based around a workrate analyais in timeline.
to compare jade with bianca here.
Especially since bianca had more time.
as an in house wwe creation.
than jade has a first time trainee.
earnng a draw and booking in aew.

In timeline jade is actually further along than bianca.

Art Barr

jade cargill has been training for wrestling since her wwe tryout in 2019, she debuted on television in late 2020 and has been appearing on tv for a year and a half and still has a very long way to go in terms of promoing and her in ring work

bianca signed to wwe in 2016, debuted in summer 2017 with less than a year of experience whether it be training or wrestling in front of a crowd, then debuted on nxt in early 2018 as a full time character and a year later in early 2019 she was in the NXT takeover co-main event against shayna baszler.. at that point she had the same amount of experience that jade has right now

youre gonna lie to yourself and say that jade right now is better in any category than bianca was when she faced shayna at takeover?

 

[dh86]

thats a fact, her being paired with a nikka named smart mark sterling who is a complete dweeb next to a bad bytch like that does not fit her aesthetic or presentation at all, u mean to tell me u couldnt pair her with lio when he was there? call up teddy long or some shyt? I like the direction theyre going with the baddie section thing with kiera and red velvet they could play off of each other nicely and be more comfortable out there and really find their characters, but they seriously have to ditch that cac he looks really out of place


all due respect to jade but yall really gotta stop comparing her progress to bianca at the same point in her career because bianca was far ahead than jade at this same point, bianca was doing the EST shyt from her debut match in 2017, her match vs kiari was the standout match of the whole mae young classic, she was doing the "un-de-fea-ted" shyt which eventually lead to her feud with shayna within a year of appearing on NXT regularly, she was far more comfortable on the mic and in the ring than jade is and that's not a knock on jade as much as it's a compliment to bianca for being a once in a generation performer.. it didnt take her years to become what she is, triple h simply just never pulled the trigger on her to be showcased the way she is on the main roster

Bianca was there over a year training and doing house shows before they let her wrestle on tv, Jade had her first career match on tv. Goldberg is probably a better comparison for Jade but Bianca definitely had to develop her mic skills and character with time. She’s probably closest to her real self now and that’s Jade in a few years.

 

[dh86]

jade cargill has been training for wrestling since her wwe tryout in 2019, she debuted on television in late 2020 and has been appearing on tv for a year and a half and still has a very long way to go in terms of promoing and her in ring work

bianca signed to wwe in 2016, debuted in summer 2017 with less than a year of experience whether it be training or wrestling in front of a crowd, then debuted on nxt in early 2018 as a full time character and a year later in early 2019 she was in the NXT takeover co-main event against shayna baszler.. at that point she had the same amount of experience that jade has right now

youre gonna lie to yourself and say that jade right now is better in any category than bianca was when she faced shayna at takeover?

Jade is far more over than Bianca was then

 

[SpacelySprockets]

Bianca was there over a year training and doing house shows before they let her wrestle on tv, Jade had her first career match on tv. Goldberg is probably a better comparison for Jade but Bianca definitely had to develop her mic skills and character with time. She’s probably closest to her real self now and that’s Jade in a few years.

this is bianca belair 7 months into being an nxt regular promoing while on her honeymoon, I have yet to see 1 promo from jade as good as this and shes been appearing on tv for a year and a half and still has somebody speaking for her


the only thing you can really say is bianca might have had more reps in the ring because of NXT house shows, but nobodys stopping jade from doing independent bookings and gaining more in ring experience that way

Jade is far more over than Bianca was then

jade is more "over" in the sense that AEW presents her way better and way more legit than NXT ever presented bianca, she is highly protected and presented as a big deal and rightfully so.. bianca was used to get triple h's pet projects over.. but when it comes to who was a better performer in terms of wrestling and promoing at the same point in their careers, its bianca and its really not close

 

[Art Barr]

jade cargill has been training for wrestling since her wwe tryout in 2019, she debuted on television in late 2020 and has been appearing on tv for a year and a half and still has a very long way to go in terms of promoing and her in ring work

bianca signed to wwe in 2016, debuted in summer 2017 with less than a year of experience whether it be training or wrestling in front of a crowd, then debuted on nxt in early 2018 as a full time character and a year later in early 2019 she was in the NXT takeover co-main event against shayna baszler.. at that point she had the same amount of experience that jade has right now

youre gonna lie to yourself and say that jade right now is better in any category than bianca was when she faced shayna at takeover?

I am No watch gang.
So post your rant.
Of the matches so we can read it.

If you have no Match rant for any of it.
Nor any rants at all.
Why are we as the reader of your post.
supposed to listen to your critique.
As you and the general poster here and online everywhere have no rants.

So rant the matches and then talk.

Till then
How is anyone gonna call jade or bianca green or a great worker.
I have never seen bianca.
Ever.
So rant the matches.
Till you do that.
How are we as the reader.
supposed to know you know anything related to being a smart.

That goes for all of youse.

I been here for a quarter century and i never read one Match rant from none of you.

Yet the general youse.
talk as though you know and are smart and i can't tell.

I rant matches.
which is why i am goat.






Art Barr

 

[Brad Piff]

 

[Art Barr]

Because the streets are saying she still green as hell

Those are marks who never ranted matches.
Can't listen to someone who does not rant.
If they do not rant they just a voiceless mark.
You have to rant to be a smart.

Not make a vlog.
Or try to be a reality star.

You have to rant to be a smart.

Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

@kenny69medon


She was working. While you were marking out and making tweets.

Till motherfukkers write rants and review.
They just a voiceless mash of wannabe reality star text. On a platform running their mouth. lollygagging wasting their time. Thinking they are important and they are not.

As they offer no real critique and do not rant matches. To demonstrate they are more than a mark..

To be a smart you must rant matches.



Art Barr

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

You all are really trying to act like there is an agenda against Jade Cargill? On this site? fukk outta here. She's like a Bizarro Alexa Bliss; a green, strongly pushed female wrestler a certain demographic hates while another demographic is in love with her, just those demos are reversed. Unlike Bliss she hasn't injured herself and she isn't surrounded by far superior workers that are showcased alongside of her on a daily basis. As green as she is, she's in the right place if you're going to give her such a strong push. Alexa Bliss's contemporaries are Sasha Banks, Bayley, Bianca Belair, Charlotte Flair and Becky Lynch just to name a few. Jade Cargill's contemporaries are........Britt Baker who's not much better than her in the ring and a bunch of randoms that aren't featured often. You can learn on the job in that environment.

 

[SpacelySprockets]

I have never seen bianca.
Ever.

so why are u quoting me trying to debate some shyt u have no knowledge of

I have no idea what u mean by "rant" but if u wanna watch biancas best matches when she was still developing at the same stage of her career that jade is in right now then watch her vs kiari, her vs shayna, her vs shayna/io/kiari, her vs dakota kai, her vs candice le rae, her vs mia yim

if u dont wanna watch any of those because u are no watch gang then u have nothing else to contribute to this conversation

 

[Art Barr]

so why are u quoting me trying to debate some shyt u have no knowledge of

I have no idea what u mean by "rant" but if u wanna watch biancas best matches when she was still developing at the same stage of her career that jade is in right now then watch her vs kiari, her vs shayna, her vs shayna/io/kiari, her vs dakota kai, her vs candice le rae, her vs mia yim

if u dont wanna watch any of those because u are no watch gang then u have nothing else to contribute to this conversation

If you don't know wtf a rant is.
Then you not a smart and your commentary is useless mark based drivel.

Rant the matches or hush.


Art Barr

 

[Rell84shots]

Bruh she almost broke Marina's neck in the last match and it was edited as well. Jade has a great look and charisma, but she has a long way to go before she can be trusted in the ring. Ever since that story about Danielson training her came out, people have been constantly trying to make it seem like she's now on Sasha's level.

I would think he would see Jade in a similar way he sees Bianca.

Which is exactly why she's better off in AEW. Bianca has yet to beat Chuck(although they're clearly building towards it) and she's a million times better than Jade, so I don't think Jade would stand a chance in the WWE.

 

[John Reena]

I love Jade, but she still not good in the ring. AEW gotta stop giving her long matches. It’s okay to do squashes/short matches. Everybody ain’t gotta be Steamboat n Flair.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

If you don't know wtf a rant is.
Then you not a smart and your commentary is useless mark based drivel.

Rant the matches or hush.


Art Barr

 

[23Barrettcity]

not a whole lot to say


she the biggest star AEW has made so far

Vince would have her losing to Charlotte on a weekly basis, thank the lord for AEW

Just like he has Bianca ?? Stop it . Vince had two black women headline mania .