Albums J. Cole - The Off-Season (Discussion Thread)

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I’d partially blame the label for Sideline Story because so many great tracks were pushed to the mixtape as they forced Cole to craft his album for radio+specifically demographics. Did Cole’s wack production hurt too? Yes.

Born Sinner was better but still a pedestrian album to me. Very cringe worthy bars and some weak beats again. That intro track with the “fakkit” lines...come on man. Eminem tier shyt.

I liked the first half of FHD but the latter tracks are kinda whatever. 4YEO is where I felt he finally got a consistent album, outside of Folding Clothes.

Sideline Story was a disappointing follow up to Friday Night Lights but I still love that album. We played it relentlessly in the crib I was living at. "Dollar And A Dream 3", "Can't Get Enough", "God's Gift", "Nobody's Perfect", "Breakdown". And I know "Lights Please" and "In The Morning" were old but I'm glad he included them on the official album.

"Born Sinner" is probably my favorite Cole album :yeshrug:

This album feels like a return to early Cole to me, I love it.
 
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I’d partially blame the label for Sideline Story because so many great tracks were pushed to the mixtape as they forced Cole to craft his album for radio+specifically demographics. Did Cole’s wack production hurt too? Yes.

Born Sinner was better but still a pedestrian album to me. Very cringe worthy bars and some weak beats again. That intro track with the “fakkit” lines...come on man. Eminem tier shyt.

I liked the first half of FHD but the latter tracks are kinda whatever. 4YEO is where I felt he finally got a consistent album, outside of Folding Clothes.


I must be the ONLY nikka on earth that loves foldin clothes. That song hit for me at the right moment in my life
 
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Sideline Story was a disappointing follow up to Friday Night Lights but I still love that album. We played it relentlessly in the crib I was living at. "Dollar And A Dream 3", "Can't Get Enough", "God's Gift", "Nobody's Perfect", "Breakdown". And I know "Lights Please" and "In The Morning" were old but I'm glad he included them on the official album.

"Born Sinner" is probably my favorite Cole album :yeshrug:

This album feels like a return to early Cole to me, I love it.


Born Sinner was disappointing because he sampled a lot of classic beats that he didn’t do justice too. That nikka had the AUDACITY to sample Da Art Of Storytelling and told a wack ass story:scust:


Forbidden Fruit was another one. Classic sample. Lazy execution.


The highs on the album were great (Power Trip/ Mo Money/Let Nas Down/The title track. But the corny shyt was next level bad (What the fukk was Villumimati?!?!)


The best thing that happened regarding that album was him dropping it the same day as Kanye. Because Yeezus was so terrible that it made Born Sinner look like a classic in comparison
 

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Dope album

I do wish Cole put some storytelling or something artistry wise. But this is a solid project

Short as hell tho

And we need a 21 savage X Cole EP

Just a short collection of songs will do
 

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I’d partially blame the label for Sideline Story because so many great tracks were pushed to the mixtape as they forced Cole to craft his album for radio+specifically demographics. Did Cole’s wack production hurt too? Yes.

Born Sinner was better but still a pedestrian album to me. Very cringe worthy bars and some weak beats again. That intro track with the “fakkit” lines...come on man. Eminem tier shyt.

I liked the first half of FHD but the latter tracks are kinda whatever. 4YEO is where I felt he finally got a consistent album, outside of Folding Clothes.


Bro what are you TALKING about? You’re actively discussing J Cole and seem to know minutia. How do you live with yourself? He sang Paula Abdul, let Hnas down and folded clothes. How does that not end a chapter? I don’t get you losers at all.
 

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Born Sinner was disappointing because he sampled a lot of classic beats that he didn’t do justice too. That nikka had the AUDACITY to sample Da Art Of Storytelling and told a wack ass story:scust:


Forbidden Fruit was another one. Classic sample. Lazy execution.


The highs on the album were great (Power Trip/ Mo Money/Let Nas Down/The title track. But the corny shyt was next level bad (What the fukk was Villumimati?!?!)


The best thing that happened regarding that album was him dropping it the same day as Kanye. Because Yeezus was so terrible that it made Born Sinner look like a classic in comparison

Yo honestly the Yeezus shyt definitely played into it, I still think that album was mid and it was refreshing to hear some straight-up rap shyt from Cole as a comparison. I actually fukk with "Forbidden Fruit" too, Kenny did his thing on the hook.
 

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I was expecting something much better than what I heard given the amount of hype this album has.

It happens every time though. J coles albums always get hyped to fukk and it always ends up being some average generic shyt. He's found he's lane as the default rapper to go to if you wanna hear "real hip hop".

It sounds like he's trynna blend the new style of rapping and production with his lyrical miracle style... A lot of wack soulless singing on here too.

That being said though... The good tracks on here are really good.. I like the 2nd half of the album much more. Let go my hand is crazy.
 
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