It's official: Latinos now outnumber whites in California

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Amazes me how it's the same people crying about racist Mexicans/Latinos are quick to post some racist ass comments about said people. Bunch of damn hypocrites. You want to take a step towards ending racism? Start with your damn self, because just like juanito is quick to talk to his homies about the mayate he just saw and to ridicule him behind his back, cats are turning around and doing the same thing here on the coli

Racism is will never end so there's little point in playing political games to placate racists. Mexicans will not stop being white supremacists because someone stops calling them spics. All of what I've personally said about Mexicans is true from a evidence standpoint. So to say they are this or that is not racism, but facts. The most important thing is to deport them, not try to haggle with racists. We have enough fukking racist cacs; we don't need more murderous twisted ones from Mexico.
 

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Damn. I've always wondered why Latinos don't come to Canada in record numbers.:patrice:
Is it because it's far away, or is it cause Canada's immigration is more ruthless than america's :patrice:

Tbh, I have only met few Latinos in Canada they are completely non -existent here. :dwillhuh:

Latinos don't qualify for immigration so they are unable to move to Canada. Plus there's the whole of America where they can sit and speak Spanish and work without a passport, so why bother with Canada?
 

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You should not be surprised by this. They're basically white people who speak Spanish.

You know what's funny? He said the men love to sleep with black women, but can't stand black men. He also said that the women love to have kids with black men but can not stand black women. The latinos do like to hire black people for jobs. I live in Miami and see the same
 

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Cause it's cold as fukk

Toronto's weather is not so different from New York's. Latinos would nevertheless come if 1) Canada allowed them and 2) there wasn't that giant land mass below Canada called America where Latinos can speak spanish and get jobs.
 

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You know what's funny? He said the men love to sleep with black women, but can't stand black men. He also said that the women love to have kids with black men but can not stand black women. The latinos do like to hire black people for jobs. I live in Miami and see the same

Mestizos are misogynist racists by and large, similar to the Southern European rapists, whom are their ancestral fathers. When the Spanaird Consquisidators arrived, they would kill the Native males and rape the women. This is how they showed racial dominance. The Mexican Mestizos are little different and this urge of theirs is instinctual. This continuity is why I say blacks and Mexicans (not just them but most Mestizos including Peruvians and the like) are irreconcilable.
 
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Florida next, just wait :francis:
Puerto Ricans are moving to FL at a high rate b/c the territory is so broke...
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/us/economy-and-crime-spur-new-puerto-rican-exodus.html?_r=0
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Economy and Crime Spur New Puerto Rican Exodus

By LIZETTE ALVAREZFEB. 8, 2014
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SIGNS OF STRUGGLEThe makeshift shelter of a homeless person in downtown Ponce, a city on Puerto Rico’s southern coast. Alvin Baez/Reuters

SAN JUAN, P.R. — Alexis Sotomayor has many reasons to stay in Puerto Rico: his two children; his mother and their gossip sessions over plates of fried rice; and the balm of salt and sun that leavens his life on the island.

But the artisanal soap business that Mr. Sotomayor built is barely hanging on amid rising costs and taxes, and sales that have sunk by 40 percent in five years. Crime is rampant; his girlfriend was nearly carjacked at gunpoint recently. So last month he boarded a flight to Orlando, Fla., to interview for a job at a rum distillery in the hope of joining the ever-growing Puerto Rican diaspora.

“I don’t see it improving,” said Mr. Sotomayor, a 47-year-old chemical engineer. “I see it getting worse. It’s the uncertainty. What am I going to do — wait until it gets worse?”

Puerto Rico’s slow-motion economic crisis skidded to a new low last week when both Standard & Poor’s and Moody’s downgraded its debt to junk status, brushing aside a series of austerity measures taken by the new governor, including increasing taxes and rebalancing pensions. But that is only the latest in a sharp decline leading to widespread fears about Puerto Rico’s future. In the past eight years, Puerto Rico’s ticker tape of woes has stretched unabated: $70 billion in debt, a 15.4 percent unemployment rate, a soaring cost of living, pervasive crime, crumbling schools and a worrisome exodus of professionals and middle-class Puerto Ricans who have moved to places like Florida and Texas.

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A woman walking past a closed restaurant in Ponce. Alvin Baez/Reuters

The situation has grown so dire that this tropical island, known for its breathtaking beaches, salsero vibe and tax breaks, is now mentioned in the same breath as Detroit, with one significant difference. Puerto Rico, a United States territory of 3.6 million people that is treated in large part like a state, cannot declare bankruptcy.

From bottom to top, Puerto Ricans are watching it unfold with a mixture of disbelief and stoicism.

Alejandro García Padilla, who was elected Puerto Rico’s governor by a sliver of a margin in 2012, said that after he began to wade deeply into the island’s economic and social quagmire, his fight-or-flight instincts kicked into high gear.

“I thought about asking for a recount,” Mr. García Padilla, 42, said with a grin during a recent interview in La Fortaleza, the 500-year-old government residence, recalling, among other things, the $2.2 billion deficit. “But now it’s too late.”

A sense of pessimism pervades on the island. Streets are lined with empty storefronts in San Juan and in smaller cities like Mayagüez; small businesses, hit hard by high electricity, water and tax bills and hurt by drops in sales, have closed and stayed closed.

Schools sit shuttered either because of disrepair or because of a dwindling number of students. In this typically convivial capital, communities have erected gates and bars to help thwart carjackers and home invaders. Illegal drugs, including high-level narcotrafficking, are one of the few growth industries.

Puerto Rico, about 1,000 miles from Miami, has long been poor. Its per capita income is around $15,200, half that of Mississippi, the poorest state. Thirty-seven percent of all households receive food stamps; in Mississippi, the total is 22 percent.

But the extended recession has hit the middle-class hardest of all, economists said. Jobs are still scarce, pension benefits for some are shrinking and budgets continue to tighten. Even many people with paychecks have chosen simply to parlay their United States citizenship into a new life on the mainland.

Puerto Rico’s drop in population has far outpaced that of American states. In 2011 and 2012, the population fell by nearly 1 percent, according to census figures. From July 2012 to July 2013, it declined again by 1 percent, or about 36,000 people. That is more than seven times the drop in West Virginia, the state with the steepest population losses.

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"I don't see it improving. I see it getting worse. It's the uncertainty. What am I going to do — wait until it gets worse? ALEXIS SOTOMAYOR, 47, a chemical engineer turned artisanal soap maker who is looking for work on the United States mainland Dennis Rivera for The New York Times

A Lack of Hope
Coupled with a falling birthrate, the decline is raising worries about how Puerto Rico will thrive with a rapidly aging population and such a large share of jobless residents.Of the island’s 3.67 million people, only one million work in the formal economy. The island has one of the lowest labor participation rates in the world, with only 41.3 percent of working-age Puerto Ricans in jobs; one in four works for the government.


“Today, Puerto Ricans with jobs are moving to the U.S.,” said Orlando Sotomayor, an economist at the University of Puerto Rico and the brother of Alexis. “Even people in their 40s and 50s, college professors with complete job security, are doing so. Some are starting all over. The phenomenon is highly uncommon and underscores the lack of hope that the ship can or will be righted.”

The current exodus rivals the one in the 1950s, when job shortages on the island forced farmers and rural residents to find factory work in cities like New York and Boston.Today, it is doctors, teachers, engineers, nurses, professors who are leaving Puerto Rico behind.

Just about everyone in Puerto Rico has a relative who left recently for Florida, New York, Texas or Virginia, among others. But the decision is never easy. Fathers leave behind children. Houses must be rented or sold at a loss in a glutted market. Businesses must be shut. And English must be polished, or in some cases learned, in a hurry.

Alexis Sotomayor said that on his January flight to Orlando, two acquaintances sitting nearby were also headed there hoping to find work. “Going out there in the morning and returning in the evening, after an interview,” he said.

After Coca-Cola laid him off in 2001, Mr. Sotomayor started experimenting with distilling plant extracts. He found he could make natural soaps and decided to go into business for himself, a move that would allow him more time to spend with his children.

Business boomed for years. So much so that he moved his homespun facility out of his house in 2005 and into a small building he bought in San Juan. He found that he was earning more money making soap than working as a chemical engineer.

Then in 2008, the recession pounded at his door. For five years, he has tried to lift his business; he went to fairs around the island, set up booths in shopping malls, promoted his flower-infused soaps, candles and lotions on television. He divvied up his store last year and decided to rent out half the building. He let go two of his four employees.

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STAYING AFLOAT Mr. Sotomayor set up his natural soap business in San Juan after Coca-Cola laid him off in 2001. Dennis Rivera for The New York Times

But his expenses mounted, including $600 a month in power bills, more than double what consumers pay on the mainland. The sky-high cost is a consequence of PuertoRico’s inefficient government-run monopoly on electricity and its 67 percent dependency on petroleum for electric power. Other utilities are exorbitant, too. Last year, water rates rose 60 percent in a bid to help cut the state-run water company’s debt.

The cost of private tuition for his children, a total of $2,000 a month, is one nonnegotiable expense for him. Like most middle- and upper-class Puerto Ricans, he long ago lost faith in the island’s troubled public schools. Public school enrollment has plummeted in recent years, in part because of declining birthrates but also because of the schools’ poor quality.

“Many parents, even lower-middle-class parents, put all their money into their children’s private school, even if sometimes they have to live in rented houses,”said Nilsa Velazquez, an economics professor at the University of Puerto Rico who plans to move to Virginia with her family this summer.

For many, the high rate of violent crime has been the capper. There were 1,136 murders in 2011, a record and far higher than the mainland’s rate. It fell to 883 homicides last year, a point of pride for the governor.

But the damage had been done. Life here has always been full of trade-offs, including a high cost of living. Now, though, there is little left to trade.

‘Live Here Just to Survive?’
“Between making less money and not knowing when someone will jump you, that pushed the quality of life very low,” Alexis Sotomayor said. “To live here just to survive? No, thanks.”


For Ms. Velazquez, the tenured professor who lives in Mayagüez, and her husband, who works for the Air Force Reserve, the mental calculations were similar. She is 50, she said. The last thing she wanted to do was give up her job as an economics professor, move her two teenage children and uproot her 76-year-old mother, who speaks no English and has never left the island.

But she has grown so disillusioned with the University of Puerto Rico Mayagüez — one of the crown jewels of the island’s higher-education system, where she has worked for nearly three decades — that she no longer views it as a viable option for her children.In the face of continuing economic stress, the University of Puerto Rico has suffered the loss of a steady stream of valued professors and funding for important research projects. Even tenured professors have left, Ms. Velazquez said.

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Mr. Sotomayor's factory thrived for years, but now rising expenses are driving him out of business. Dennis Rivera for The New York Times

“The most important thing for me is my children’s education, and the second is my quality of life,” she said. “You see all of these fees and taxes going up, but the streets are terrible.”

This summer she will try to rent out her house rather than selling it and take a loss, and will move to Fairfax County, Va., where her husband will work for the federal government and her children will attend a top public high school. As an economist with a law degree, she is hoping to find some kind of job.

“I thought I could do anything in Puerto Rico,” she said. “Now that is gone.”

The frustrations of Mr. Sotomayor and Ms. Velazquez speak to the depth of the island’s economic problems.

The origins of the crisis, though, stretch back more than a decade. Tax incentives have long been a draw for corporations seeking to do business in Puerto Rico, and the island in turn has benefited from its ability to offer such breaks, in large part structuring its economy around them.

Tax laws were once abundantly generous, which fueled the spread of factories that made textiles and pharmaceuticals, among other things. That came to a crash in 2006, after the 10-year phaseout of a subsidy that provided American firms operating in Puerto Rico with tax-free income. Changes to the global economy and the worldwide recession exacerbated the situation. Since 1996, factory jobs on the island spiraled from 160,000 to 75,000.

Little was done to try to revamp the island’s economic framework. Instead, deficits climbed and pensions spun out of control.In 2006, the government shut down for two weeks because it lacked the cash to meet expenses. The governor moved to raise taxes. In 2010, the next governor reduced taxes and laid off 33,000 government workers. But Puerto Rico’s governors began borrowing even more heavily to get out of the economic logjam.

“It was cheap and easy to borrow,” said Mike Soto, the president of the Puerto Rican Center for a New Economy. “It got to the point where we tapped out what we can borrow.”

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cacs gonna go hard on spics pretty soon....theyre not even concerned with nikkas no more....and asians are emusclated, and dont leave the house,,theyre not a threat

I don't think so. Calfornia is arguably the most important state in the union. Unlike black folks, white folks will play footsy with Latinos on immigration which will kill black people. Immigration is the only thing Latinos care about. Don't think they heat is going to off you when you cant find a job because Bobby and Jorge are temporary allies.
 

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where do you live, North dakota?

mescans have even invaded the south and the east coast at this point. i live in NYC and theres tons of mexicans and i aint never seen them bother nobody. i know the relationship in cali between blacks and mexicans is volatile but thats not how it is everywhere
I mean I see them but we only had one Mexican in my hs and I didn't see any in my neighborhood coming up. I will say that I have had limited interaction with everybody besides black people. I guess that's the reason I don't experience much bullshyt.
 

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Incredible ...... it be young couples, one toddler walking by the hand, an infant in the stroller, and a 4 month belly on the woman .... I'm just like :mindblown: ......

Nigerians are the same way. Something about worshipping White Jesus/Mary Guadelupe seems to trigger breeding. Mexicans are cool for the most part Ive had no issues with them as a collective or individual level.
 
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where do you live, North dakota?

mescans have even invaded the south and the east coast at this point. i live in NYC and theres tons of mexicans and i aint never seen them bother nobody. i know the relationship in cali between blacks and mexicans is volatile but thats not how it is everywhere

Because Mexicans don't outnumber Blacks in the East Coast yet...or the South. So they act cool. But you can still see how they feel about you. I'd rather be around Dominicans and Puerto Ricans than Mexicans. Dominicans and Puerto Ricans rather be around us Blacks than Mexicans. That says ALOT.
 
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