It's never been about Peyton vs. Brady...It's BEEN about Manning the OC vs. Bill Belichek the DC

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

Breh, your fanbase says the wackest shyt when it comes to Brady. You ain't objective.

Just think about what you're suggesting in your OP. Does Brady not play against a schemed defense? Is Dungy a scrub? Did Beli scheme for the Chargers D when the Peyton failed against them in the playoffs at home? How about the Jets D? Did Beli email Rex on how to stop Peyton at home too?

but, in his defense [of which he doesn't need by me], as he said in his reply to me, Brady isn't the subject of this post, nor do I think it was made to bury Brady...its to shine a light on a history of Belichek defeating legendary QBs.

 

[NYC Rebel]

You make a good point there then, especially going back in Belichek's history. The struggle isn't Manning beating Brady, its Manny beating the defense which many many QBs have taken the L to.

The first half of Philip Rivers' career was getting sonned out by Belichek lol

Listen dog.....this dude had Mark fukking Collins shutting down Jerry Rice!! Mark Collins. It's been over 20 years and I still can't get over that.

 

[Street Knowledge]

REal talk....It's never been about Peyton vs. Brady......it's been about Manning the Offensive coordinator vs. Bill Belichek the Defensive coordinator.

I hate this Brady vs. Peyton bullshyt. Peyton Manning is the only QB/offensive coordinator in the NFL. Any game he's played the Pats, he's faced a Bill Belichek defense. I was a BIG TIME 49ers fan before Rice got there when I was a kid because I used to LOVE Wendell Tyler. And you know what? It was the Beliechek defensive led Giants that used to have me shytting BRICKS anytime the 49ers faced the Giants. NO WAY you were a Niners fan and Giants didn't scare your ass. I was the clown at my cousins naming ceremony rooting for the Niners when the Giants stomped them out 49-0. I was the yelling "THE NINERS ARE GOING TO THE SUPER BOWL!!!" When Flipper Anderson of the Rams scored that OT touchdown knocking the Giants out of the playoffs. Belichek was the only dude that would lock up Jerry Rice....using dudes like Marc Collins. MARC COLLINS!! Belichek was the only dude fukking up Bill Walsh West Coast offenses. Belichek has been killing HOF QBs for years, yet we're still making this about Brady vs. Manning?

If Brady had to face a Belichek defense...HE would struggle!!!

Lets end this sham matchup. It's always been Peyton vs. Belichek...

What's your evidence that brady would struggle against a BB defense? Especially when In the playoffs(when it matters most)

Mark sanchez threw for 3 touchdown against a BB defense

Joe flacco shredded a BB defense 2 years in a row I the playoffs. Would've led a gamewinning drive if not for a Evans drop

Jake Delhomme looked like Marino in the SB against a BB defense

Eli has a chance of going to the HOF...almost entirely based of shredding BB defenses

BB is one of the great defensive minds but his defenses with the pats in the playoffs have a history of late game 4th quarter collapses. Given tom is the all time leader in PS gamewinning drives I would take my chances with number 12 In that scenario

 

[yseJ]

Beli is easily the GOAT DC to me.

and yeah I hate the qb vs qb bullshyt narratives when these qbs dont even play against each other.

5 star posting

 

[Lakers Offseason]

Brady isn't my focus. I'm moving the focus from what Belichek has done to QBs dating back to my Niners squads until now.

I'm giving BELICHEK props while you're focusing on labeling me to a fan base.



No responding to you this point going forward. If Brady had to face Belichek, looking at Beli's track record, he would lose too.

How do we know this?

Belichick is known for playing zone defense, and Brady eats zone defenses.

Brady is known for taking what the defense gives them. Belichick takes the big plays away, but leaves the dump offs alone. Brady would be happy just to dump it off. It's only when Peyton learned to dump it off was when he beat a Belichick defense.

 

[NYC Rebel]

What's your evidence that brady would struggle against a BB defense? Especially when In the playoffs(when it matters most)

Mark sanchez threw for 3 touchdown against a BB defense

Joe flacco shredded a BB defense 2 years in a row I the playoffs. Would've led a gamewinning drive if not for a Evans drop

Jake Delhomme looked like Marino in the SB against a BB defense

Eli has a chance of going to the HOF...almost entirely based of shredding BB defenses

BB is one of the great defensive minds but his defenses with the pats in the playoffs have a history of late game 4th quarter collapses. Given tom is the all time leader in PS gamewinning drives I would take my chances with number 12 In that scenario

Because I've seen Belichek do it too often. I've been scared to DEATH of Belichek defenses going on 30 years breh. This dude shut down Bill Walsh offenses. Bill HOF Walsh. fukk that......he's the GOAT DC

 

[NYC Rebel]

Beli is easily the GOAT DC to me.

and yeah I hate the qb vs qb bullshyt narratives when these qbs dont even play against each other.

5 star posting

Dog....if you were a Niner fan back in the day....you remember!!! fukk that...I wanted NO PARTS of the Giants. Belichek was the only dude back in the day that could shut down the West Coast offense of Walsh.

 

[NYC Rebel]

How do we know this?

Belichick is known for playing zone defense, and Brady eats zone defenses.

Brady is known for taking what the defense gives them. Belichick takes the big plays away, but leaves the dump offs alone. Brady would be happy just to dump it off. It's only when Peyton learned to dump it off was when he beat a Belichick defense.

Becasue I've seen him do it to hall of famers by which Brady is one.

YOU want to make that a slight against Brady because that's YOUR focus. The door is that way to focus on him. I'm talking about what Belichek has done to HOF qbs AND coaches over the years. Dude is the GOAT.

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

Listen dog.....this dude had Mark fukking Collins shutting down Jerry Rice!! Mark Collins. It's been over 20 years and I still can't get over that.

that shag

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

Becasue I've seen him do it to hall of famers by which Brady is one.

YOU want to make that a slight against Brady because that's YOUR focus. The door is that way to focus on him. I'm talking about what Belichek has done to HOF qbs AND coaches over the years. Dude is the GOAT.

people are conditioned to make it a brady/manning argument, I even fell prey to it myself. If you think for a second though, one can literally take brady out of this conversation and its clearly a Belichek discussion

 

[yseJ]

Dog....if you were a Niner fan back in the day....you remember!!! fukk that...I wanted NO PARTS of the Giants. Belichek was the only dude back in the day that could shut down the West Coast offense of Walsh.

I was too young to watch those games live, and Im kinda glad I didnt (altho I did watch em on tape, not for the faint at heart). my cuz still hates the Giants more than Cowboys, because of those years lol

those games and the rams-pats SB solidified his spot as the goat DC to me

 

[NYC Rebel]

people are conditioned to make it a brady/manning argument, I even fell prey to it myself. If you think for a second though, one can literally take brady out of this conversation and its clearly a Belichek discussion

No doubt. Dude has shut down the great offensive minds he's faced the past 30 years. And I'm supposed to make it about Brady vs. Manning? fukk that. I grew up scared of Belichick. I'm not into that corny ass cliche. Beli has been bashing my shyt in for years to suddenly make it some qb vs. qb shyt when seeing him shyt on qbs. Man please.

 

[Nintendough]

Beli is the greatest video voyeur of all time. Too bad he aint been the same since the league took his tapes.

 

[NYC Rebel]

I was too young to watch those games live, and Im kinda glad I didnt (altho I did watch em on tape, not for the faint at heart). my cuz still hates the Giants more than Cowboys, because of those years lol

those games and the rams-pats SB solidified his spot as the goat DC to me

Dog....I used to rock mad Niners gear around Giants fans. I had niqqas wanting to jump me after Flipper shyt on the Giants cuz I knew the Niners would beat the Rams next week. I wanted no part of them niqqas. Belichick fukked everything up.

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

No doubt. Dude has shut down the great offensive minds he's faced the past 30 years. And I'm supposed to make it about Brady vs. Manning? fukk that. I grew up scared of Belichick. I'm not into that corny ass cliche. Beli has been bashing my shyt in for years to suddenly make it some qb vs. qb shyt when seeing him shyt on qbs. Man please.

i started to post the 19-37, 0 TD, 2 INT playoff game by philip rivers, which was preceeded or proceeded (i forget which) by an identical performance the next playoffs

then I realized

its philip rivers...he's not gonna outsmart belichek