It's extremely petty and bizzare that a show of passion derailed Howard dean's pres ambitions

[get these nets]

The point again:
No one cared enough about it and it didn't tank his candicy.
The only reason people still talk about it is because of Chappelle show.

The political reporters and columnists unleashed the flutes on him immediately after this. Late night comedians ran wild with it. This 20 second clip was talked about way longer than it should have been, and Dean was turned into a laughingstock.

 

[Pressure]

The political reporters and columnists unleashed the flutes on him immediately after this. Late night comedians ran wild with it. This 20 second clip was talked about way longer than it should have been, and Dean was turn into a laughing stock.

was after he finished third in the Iowa caucus to both Kerry and Edwards.

That killed his campaign.

 

[mastermind]

Blame Dave Chappelle because outside that pop culture reference no one really gave a fukk.

It was always a two horse race between Kerry and Edward's with Dean being a dark horse.

Chappelle was 2006

Howard Dean dropped out in 2004. That action tanked his campaign. The late night talk shows spent a few weeks making fun of it. Dean stopped being a serious political figure that night. Finishing third and the comedy that followed wrecked him.

 

[Pressure]

That was 2006

Howard Dean dropped out in 2004. That action tanked his campaign. The late night talk shows spent a few weeks making fun of it.

I'm more than aware of both considering I voted in this election.

THE 2004 CAMPAIGN: THE OVERVIEW; KERRY WINS THE IOWA CAUCUSES; DEAN 3RD, FAR BEHIND EDWARDS (Published 2004)

Senator John Edwards of North Carolina came in second, catapulting him into the first tier of presidential contenders. In the process, Mr. Edwards and Mr. Kerry pushed Dr. Dean -- who just a week ago was confidently preparing for a victory celebration here -- into third place.

His campaign had already tanked before the first primary.

Opinion polling for the 2004 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia

He was the front runner and spent too much time negative campaigning campaigning.

Voters moved towards the two guys with positive messages.

Dean Goes to Negative Ads in Iowa

 

[mastermind]

I'm more than aware of both considering I voted in this election.

THE 2004 CAMPAIGN: THE OVERVIEW; KERRY WINS THE IOWA CAUCUSES; DEAN 3RD, FAR BEHIND EDWARDS (Published 2004)



His campaign had already tanked before the first primary.

Opinion polling for the 2004 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia

He was the front runner and spent too much time negative campaigning campaigning.

Voters moved towards the two guys with positive messages.

Dean Goes to Negative Ads in Iowa

Why are you changing the point of contention?

Dean probably wasn’t going to win, but the media made this into a bigger deal than it was.

And “it didn’t register in pop culture outside of Chappelle” was bullshyt. It was a goofy pop culture moment for a few weeks. A lot of us were there and experienced it.

 

[Pressure]

Why are you changing the point of contention?

Dean probably wasn’t going to win, but the media made this into a bigger deal than it was.

And “it didn’t register in pop culture outside of Chappelle” was bullshyt. It was a goofy pop culture moment for a few weeks. A lot of us were there and experienced it.

The point of contention was that it tanked his campaign. My position is and remains his campaign was already tanking before his speech, thus his negative campaign ads and eventual third place finish.

And the only reason anyone is still talking about it is because of Chappelle show.

 

[Pressure]

This is the equivalent of saying the media's focus on hot sauce in the purse tanked Hillary's run

 

[Dynamite James]

I didn’t understand the big deal about this…

 

[get these nets]

The Remix

 

[mastermind]

The point of contention was that it tanked his campaign.

Because it did tank his campaign. He was never seen as a serious political entity after that.

My position is and remains his campaign was already tanking before his speech, thus his negative campaign ads and eventual third place finish.

I don’t disagree that he was not going to win.. He was a faux outsider candidate that appealed to college students. That doesn’t mean it didn’t tank his campaign.

 

[Jalether]

The point again:
No one cared enough about it and it didn't tank his candicy.
The only reason people still talk about it is because of Chappelle show.

So what tanked his campaign then

 

[Jalether]

This is the equivalent of saying the media's focus on hot sauce in the purse tanked Hillary's run

Nah but their incessant email gate reporting did

 

[Jalether]

Double post

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Blame Dave Chappelle because outside that pop culture reference no one really gave a fukk.

It was always a two horse race between Kerry and Edward's with Dean being a dark horse.

The point again:
No one cared enough about it and it didn't tank his candicy.
The only reason people still talk about it is because of Chappelle show.

This is complete nonsense.

Dean, who had been suffering with a severe bout of the flu for several days, attended a post-caucus rally for his volunteers at the Val-Air Ballroom in West Des Moines, Iowa and delivered his concession speech, aimed at cheering up those in attendance. Dean was shouting over the cheers of his enthusiastic audience, but the crowd noise was being filtered out by his unidirectional microphone, leaving only his full-throated exhortations audible to the television viewers. To those at home, he seemed to raise his voice out of sheer emotion.....

Sawyer and many others in the national broadcast news media later expressed some regret about overplaying the story. In fact, CNN issued a public apology and admitted in a statement that they indeed may have "overplayed" the incident. The incessant replaying of the "Dean Scream" by the press became a debate on the topic of whether Dean was the victim of media bias. The scream scene was shown an estimated 633 times by cable and broadcast news networks in just four days following the incident, a number that does not include talk shows and local news broadcasts. However, those who were in the actual audience that day insist that they were not aware of the infamous "scream" until they returned to their hotel rooms and saw it on TV.

Played 633 times in 4 days by the national news alone. So every news station in the country covered a completely meaningless non-issue incessantly for 4 straight days but you want to reduce it to "just the Chappelle Show".


The only reason Chappelle could do it as a skit 2 years later was because it was such a massively overplayed moment. If the moment was irrelevant, then why the fukk would a skit comic be talking about a random moment for a 3rd-place primary candidate years after the fact?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

What MSNBC did to Bernie after he won Arizona is one of the most disgusting examples of media bias that I have ever witnessed.

It was so blatant, that I couldn’t believe what I was looking at. fukking Joy Ann Reid and that fat head Chris Matthews dropped all pretenses of objectivity and went all in on Bernie.

This is what it reminded me of.

Remember, at the exact time they were giving Biden a complete pass for repeatedly lying in campaign speeches about getting arrested on the way to see Nelson Mandela, the media decided that the #1 story for 3 straight days should be a 40-year-old quote from Bernie where he (accurately) pointed out that Cuba had a good literacy program back in the day.

Chris Matthews started talking about people getting killed in Central Park.

That rant should have ended his media career:





And then he said that Bernie winning Nevada gave him the same feelings as the Nazis overtaking France.

 

[Brehcepticon]

I'M GONNA WALK INTO THE OVAL OFFICE AND CHOP THAT MUTHAfukkING DESK IN HALF!! BYAAAAH!