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i was just listenin to this good ethiopian music.

The Weeknd was born Abel Tesfaye in Scarborough, Ontario,[10] on February 16, 1990.[11] He is of Ethiopian descent.[10] He grew up listening to a variety of music genres, including soul, quiet storm, hip hop, funk, indie rock, and post-punk.[12] Because Tesfaye's father was never around when he was growing up, and his mother was constantly working, his grandma took care of him most of his young life. Because of this, Abel speaks fluent Amharic; it was the first language he learned.


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The Weeknd was born Abel Tesfaye in Scarborough, Ontario,[10] on February 16, 1990.[11] He is of Ethiopian descent.[10] He grew up listening to a variety of music genres, including soul, quiet storm, hip hop, funk, indie rock, and post-punk.[12] Because Tesfaye's father was never around when he was growing up, and his mother was constantly working, his grandma took care of him most of his young life. Because of this, Abel speaks fluent Amharic; it was the first language he learned.


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Yeah you right tho. :manny:

My cousin met him one time, his impression of him is hilarious. It's funny, when we started that Jenny Pohl shyt he randomly followed me on twitter I guess it's off the connection with my cousin. lol, if you're raised traditionally then celebrities aren't a big deal cuz the only celebrity back in those days was H.I.M. so actors and musicians had some fame but played second and third fiddle to the royalty and bishops of the church.

It ain't hurt that a lot of my fam was/is connected to Ethiopian celebs, Rita Marley cool with my uncles on the Rasta side(same side my cousin that met Weeknd is on) and Ziggy shouted them out on one of his albums. But since you felt like listening to Ethiopian music I'll put you on to my stepfather shyt in light of his comeback, he on some old school Afro-Funk shyt.
 

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Malik Ambar the Ethiopian of India

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Due to my interest in Afro-Asian history, I know of relations between India and Eastern African states and kingdoms in history; however, I remained largely ignorant of elite Africans in Indian history. Malik Ambar is perhaps one of the most well-known Elite Africans due in part to his important role in Ahmadnagar history and to standing up to the Mughals.


Conflicting years are given as Malik Ambar’s year of birth, he could have been born in 1546, 1548 or 1550 A.D, it is widely accepted, however, that he originated from Harar, a province in southern Ethiopia. There is little information on Malik Ambar’s life in Ethiopia except his name at birth, which was either Chapu or Shambu, and that he was sold into slavery. Some sources say that he was sold into slavery by his parents due to poverty, yet others suggest that Malik Ambar’s parents were forced to give him up or that he was a war captive abducted by either fellow Ethiopians or Arabs.

From Harar, Malik Ambar was moved first to Yemen then to Baghdad where he was enslaved to Kazi Hussein. Hussein recognising Malik Ambar’s intelligence educated him in finance and administration, and gave him his last name ‘Ambar’. Upon Hussein’s death, Ambar was sold to a slave trader who took him to India where in 1570 (or 1575) Chengiz Khan, a noble who served as prime minister to the king of Ahmadnagar, Nizam mul-Mulk Bani.

In the 16th century, the Deccan region of India was quite multicultural and diverse. It has been suggested that as early as the 13th century African mercenaries were serving royalty in several parts of India. There was a large community of Africans, referred to as ‘Habshis’ derived from the Arabic word for Abyssinia (Ethiopia). Habshis were popular as very loyal military slaves due to their lack of pre-existing allegiances in quarrelling factions of the Indian royalty as a result of their foreign origin. The Habshis were ‘imported Knights’ and were known to work professionally. Chengiz Khan, the man who purchased Ambar in India, was also of African origin and in the late 16th century, he was one of the several prominent Habshis in that area.

Under Chengiz Khan, Ambar learnt the working of the government, military and administrative affairs. This coupled with his past education, knowledge in Arabic and intellect led Ambar to become highly valued and respected, especially among the Habshi. Chengiz Khan gave Ambar a head position in military and administrative affairs among other military slaves in an attempt at strengthening his control over the Habshi.

There are different accounts of Ambar’s life after the death of Chengiz Khan. On one hand, Chengiz Khan’s widow granted Ambar his freedom so that he was able to get married and start his own family. Ambar then went on to build a group of mercenaries for hire to various rulers in the region, catering to the demands of Deccan rulers who constantly clashed with the Mughals from the North wanting to expand their dynasty further south. On the other hand, all sorts of chaos erupted after Chengiz Khan’s death and Ambar was sold again to noble family, the Shah of Golkonda and later to the king of Bijapur. His first name, or title, ‘Malik’ was given to Ambar by the Bijapur king who was so impressed by Ambar’s skill that he thought Ambar was “like a king” (Malik). In Bijapur, Malik Ambar was made a military commander but ended up deserted with the troops under his command after the king refused to grant additional funds for trainees. As time passed, Malik Ambar was able to build an independent army of mercenaries who provided services for various kings in the region. Malik Ambar’s mercernaries are said to have been of various ethniticies, Arab, African and Deccani. In 1595, the king of Ahmadnagar organised an army of Habshi and the then prime minister, Abhangar Khan hired Malik Ambar’s mercenaries to join the established army. It was from here on that Malik Ambar became a force against the Mughals.

Again, accounts differ as to how Malik Ambar rose to become the Regent of the Ahmadnagar kingdom. According to some sources, in 1600, the Mughals were able to take Ahmadnagar but could only lay claim to the fort and areas around it, and were unable to extend their control further. Malik Ambar was able to break through Mughal defence lines and escape with his mercenaries and supporters after which he took control over the countryside and much of Ahmadnagar. Apparently, there was no clear authority in place as regional rulers had been split into disputing factions for a long time. Thus, Malik Ambar seized the opportunity and took charge marrying his daughter to a distant relation of a previous Deccan ruler. Malik Ambar then appointed himself as regent minister and commenced ruling from behind the scenes. Another account has Malik Ambar imprisoning the king of Ahmadnagar and naming himself regent-minister. Malik Ambar married his daughter to Ibrahim Adil Shah II’s favourite courtier in the hopes of forming an alliance against the Mughals.

As a regent, Malik Ambar changed capitals, founded a new city, Khadki and became well established in the region. He launched several architectural projects including a sophisticated water supply system. Ambar’s employment of guerrilla tactics prevents Emperor Akbar and his successor Emperor Jahangir from conquering the Deccan region. In protecting the region from the conquering Mughals, Malik Ambar formed many alliances using artillery obtained from the Portuguese, British and Dutch, and naval support of the Siddis of Murud-Janjira. Malik Ambar’s continued resistance to the invasion of the Mughals posed a big problem to Emperor Jahangir’s. The Emperor Jahangir commissioned a painting from Abu’l Hasan’, in which he is portrayed shooting an arrow through Malik Ambar’s severed head.

Malik Ambar’s reign as regent was not smooth he constantly fought with rivals in order to strengthen his position. He died in 1626, aged eighty years old after suffering many defeats from the Mughals. Malik Ambar’s son, Fatteh Khan succeeded him as regent but only for a short while as he was imprisoned in 1629.
 

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Breh, this is literally one of my favorite people. So many Ethiopians don't know about him, but him and others like him were thurl as fukk. I got a pretty good book on the Siddi(Habshi) community in India and even the most afrocentric brothers was like :whoo: when I showed it to em. Goes to show how little the diaspora knows one another.

lol, I hit the :banderas: in real life at his Brooklyn show he had them rhythmless cacs jammin like shyt. :heh:
 

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Breh, this is literally one of my favorite people. So many Ethiopians don't know about him, but him and others like him were thurl as fukk. I got a pretty good book on the Siddi(Habshi) community in India and even the most afrocentric brothers was like :whoo: when I showed it to em. Goes to show how little the diaspora knows one another.


lol, I hit the :banderas: in real life at his Brooklyn show he had them rhythmless cacs jammin like shyt. :heh:

Yeah dude was :wow: How many Ethiopians are still in India today?

African-Asian historical relations have interested the shyt outta me lately.

not only because of Ethiopian-Indian relations, but also because of a renewed interest in studying the arab slave trade, the many native black tribes of Asia minor, and black kings/queens of Asia minor etc etc.. shyt the histiry goes way back
 

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Breh, this is literally one of my favorite people. So many Ethiopians don't know about him, but him and others like him were thurl as fukk. I got a pretty good book on the Siddi(Habshi) community in India and even the most afrocentric brothers was like :whoo: when I showed it to em. Goes to show how little the diaspora knows one another.


lol, I hit the :banderas: in real life at his Brooklyn show he had them rhythmless cacs jammin like shyt. :heh:
you gotta give cacs credit that they have a wider taste of music than a lot of other ppl. when i look through my white ppl's collection they hit me with the :damn::leon: and i ask them what they know about afro pop and they be jammin :hula: to that sh1t like it's theirs.:dwillhuh: :huhldup::scusthov:
she put me on afro pop 3 yrs ago.
i tell my bytch yall took rock, rap and want afro pop too... damn yall devils are greedy :wow::thumbsdown:
 

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Yeah dude was :wow: How many Ethiopians are still in India today?

African-Asian historical relations have interested the shyt outta me lately.

not only because of Ethiopian-Indian relations, but also because of a renewed interest in studying the arab slave trade, the many native black tribes of Asia minor, and black kings/queens of Asia minor etc etc.. shyt the histiry goes way back

Breh, India and Ethiopia/Somalia's relationship goes back literally thousands of years. Certain spices and staples of our diets came from our trade with the Indians, especially how we drink our tea it has all the same spices as Chai Tea. In fact, in Amharic tea is called "Shye" which is clearly derived from "Chai".

It's a pretty small number tho, plus a lot of the Siddi population is from lower East Africa so there might not be an accurate measure of the Ethiopian descendants in comparison to the other groups. The northernmost part of the Indian Ocean slave trade was in Ethiopia and the Sudan and went all the way down to Mozambique so the African diaspora in India spans most of the East African coast but there's even some Nigerians and Cameroonians mixed in there. Some of the Somalis within the Siddi community have traced their links right back to the clan they originate from, while some Christian Siddis identify with Rastafarianism and Ethiopian Orthodox given the ties. In fact, the name Siddi is said to have come from the Ethiopian province of Sidamo(where coffee was first discovered and cultivated) because most of the slaves from Ethiopia came from that particular region. Ethiopian slave traders usually went after tribes with different beliefs including Beta Israel(Ethiopian Jews), Sidamos, Oromos, etc. Habeshas were usually the ones sailing to India

Malik Ambar in particular became a slave during wars between Christian Abyssinia and the Adal Sultanate(led by Ahmad Gragn) of modern Somalia and Afar(a region which now touches Eritrea, Ethiopia, and Djibouti) my guess is that he may have been the child of nobles which explains why he wasn't castrated plus he had Habesha features so it's a chance he was a part of the administrative class of Harar which was always fought over between Christians and Muslims. The reason why Indians called the blacks "Habshi" is because it was Habeshas that were trading with India and the Arab world especially in slave commodities. Not to mention, many of the most notable Siddis of Indian history were of Abyssinian origin. After the war with Adal, both sides were fukked up badly and Habeshas themselves became slaves and were sent to various parts of the Muslim world.

I'm with you, African-Asian relations is extremely fascinating to me. The earliest documentation I think is the Greek book Periplus of the Erythraean Sea which described the trade winds from the Red Sea that lead you straight to India which were routes that Ethiopians and Somalis knew of well before the Greeks even left their mainland.

Hold up, lemme get you some flicks of Habshis. It'll take me a sec, every time I find them I can't help but to watch em my damn self.
 

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you gotta give cacs credit that they have a wider taste of music than a lot of other ppl. when i look through my white ppl's collection they hit me with the :damn::leon: and i ask them what they know about afro pop and they be jammin :hula: to that sh1t like it's theirs.:dwillhuh: :huhldup::scusthov:
she put me on afro pop 3 yrs ago.
i tell my bytch yall took rock, rap and want afro pop too... damn yall devils are greedy :wow::thumbsdown:

That shyt fukks me up every time, especially knowing how close minded black people can be at times. I be forgettin them cacs love to take in different cultures, they real open to new shyt. When I was in Ethiopia last year I'd run into random white people with they big ass hiking backpacks solo dolo lookin around at the squalor like :ehh: :leon:

shyt is always bizarre, but then you realize they're the minority. :lolbron:
 

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Musa I (c. 1280 – c. 1337), was the tenth Mansa, which translates as "King of Kings" or "Emperor", of the wealthy Malian Empire. At the time of Mansa Musa's rise to the throne, the Malian Empire consisted of territory formerly belonging to the Ghana Empire and Melle (Mali) and immediate surrounding areas, and Musa held many titles, including: Emir of Melle, Lord of the Mines of Wangara, and Conqueror of Ghanata, Futa-Jallon, and at least another dozen.[1]

Nomenclature
Musa was referred to and is most commonly found as Mansa Musa in Western manuscripts and literature. His name also appears as Kankou Musa, Kankan Musa or Kanku Musa which means "Musa, son of Kankou", where Kankou is the name of his mother. Other alternatives go on as Mali-koy Kankan Musa, Gonga Musa, and the Lion of Mali.[2][3]

Lineage and accession to the throne
What is known about the kings of the Malian Empire is taken from the writings of Arab scholars, including Al-Umari, Abu-sa'id Uthman ad-Dukkali, Ibn Khaldun, and Ibn Battuta. According to Ibn-Khaldun's comprehensive history of the Malian kings, Mansa Musa's grandfather was Abu-Bakr (the Arabic equivalent to Bakari or Bogari, original name unknown – not the sahabiyy Abu Bakr), a brother of Sundiata Keita, the founder of the Malian Empire as recorded through oral histories. Abu-Bakr did not ascend the throne, and his son, Musa's father, Faga Laye, has no significance in the History of Mali.[4]

Mansa Musa came to the throne through a practice of appointing a deputy when a king goes on his pilgrimage to Mecca or some other endeavor, and later naming the deputy as heir. According to primary sources, Musa was appointed deputy of the king before him, who had reportedly embarked on an expedition to explore the limits of the Atlantic Ocean, and never returned. The Arab-Egyptian scholar Al-Umari quotes Mansa Musa as follows:

The ruler who preceded me did not believe that it was impossible to reach the extremity of the ocean that encircles the earth (the Atlantic Ocean). He wanted to reach that (end) and was determined to pursue his plan. So he equipped two hundred boats full of men, and many others full of gold, water and provisions sufficient for several years. He ordered the captain not to return until they had reached the other end of the ocean, or until he had exhausted the provisions and water. So they set out on their journey. They were absent for a long period, and, at last just one boat returned. When questioned the captain replied: 'O Prince, we navigated for a long period, until we saw in the midst of the ocean a great river which flowing massively. My boat was the last one; others were ahead of me, and they were drowned in the great whirlpool and never came out again. I sailed back to escape this current.' But the Sultan would not believe him. He ordered two thousand boats to be equipped for him and his men, and one thousand more for water and provisions. Then he conferred the regency on me for the term of his absence, and departed with his men, never to return nor to give a sign of life.

—Mansa Musa[5]
Musa's son and successor, Mansa Magha, was also appointed deputy during Musa's pilgrimage.[6]

Islam and pilgrimage to Mecca
From the far reaches of the Mediterranean Sea to the Indus River, the faithful approached the city of Mecca. All had the same objective to worship together at the most sacred shrine of Islam, the Kaaba in Mecca. One such traveler was Mansa Musa, Sultan of Mali in Western Africa. Mansa Musa had prepared carefully for the long journey he and his attendants would take. He was determined to travel not only for his own religious fulfillment, but also for recruiting teachers and leaders, so that his realms could learn more of the Prophet's teachings.

Mahmud Kati, Chronicle of the Seeker
Musa was a devout Muslim and his pilgrimage to Mecca, a command ordained by Allah according to core teachings of Islam, made him well-known across northern Africa and the Middle East. To Musa, Islam was "an entry into the cultured world of the Eastern Mediterranean".[7] He would spend much time fostering the growth of Islam in his empire.

Musa made his pilgrimage in 1324, his procession reported to include 60,000 men, 12,000 slaves who each carried 4-lb. gold bars, heralds dressed in silks who bore gold staffs, organized horses and handled bags. Musa provided all necessities for the procession, feeding the entire company of men and animals.[8] Also in the train were 80 camels, which varying reports claim carried between 50 and 300 pounds of gold dust each. He gave away the gold to the poor he met along his route. Musa not only gave to the cities he passed on the way to Mecca, including Cairo and Medina, but also traded gold for souvenirs. Furthermore, it has been recorded that he built a mosque each and every Friday.

Musa's journey was documented by several eyewitnesses along his route, who were in awe of his wealth and extensive procession, and records exist in a variety of sources, including journals, oral accounts and histories. Musa is known to have visited with the Mamluk sultan Al-Nasir Muhammad of Egypt in July 1324.[9]

Musa's generous actions, however, inadvertently devastated the economy of the region. In the cities of Cairo, Medina and Mecca, the sudden influx of gold devalued the metal for the next decade. Prices on goods and wares super inflated. To rectify the gold market, Musa borrowed all the gold he could carry from money-lenders in Cairo, at high interest. This is the only time recorded in history that one man directly controlled the price of gold in the Mediterranean.[10]

Later reign
Whenever a hero adds to the list of his exploits from conquest, Mansa Musa gives them a pair of wide trousers...The greater the number of a Dogari's exploits, the bigger the size of his trousers.

Al-Dukhari, observation of the court of Mansa Musa in Timbuktu[11]
During his long return journey from Mecca in 1325, Musa heard news that his army had recaptured Gao. Sagmandia, one of his generals, led the endeavor. The city of Gao had been within the empire since before Sakura's reign and was an important, though often rebellious, trading center. Musa made a detour and visited the city where he received, as hostages, the two sons of the Gao king, Ali Kolon and Suleiman Nar. He returned to Niani with the two boys and later educated them at his court. When Mansa Musa returned, he brought back many Arabian scholars and architects.[/QOUTE]
 
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Influence in Timbuktu
It is recorded that Mansa Musa traveled through the cities of Timbuktu and Gao on his way to Mecca, and made them a part of his empire when he returned around 1325. He brought architects from Andalusia, a region in Spain, and Cairo to build his grand palace in Timbuktu and the great Djinguereber Mosque that still stands today.[13]

Timbuktu soon became a center of trade, culture, and Islam; markets brought in merchants from Hausaland, Egypt, and other African kingdoms, a university was founded in the city (as well as in the Malian cities of Djenné and Ségou), and Islam was spread through the markets and university, making Timbuktu a new area for Islamic scholarship.[14] News of the Malian empire’s city of wealth even traveled across the Mediterranean to southern Europe, where traders from Venice, Granada, and Genoa soon added Timbuktu to their maps to trade manufactured goods for gold.[15]

The University of Sankore in Timbuktu was restaffed under Musa's reign, with jurists, astronomers, and mathematicians.[16] The university became a center of learning and culture, drawing Muslim scholars from around Africa and the Middle East to Timbuktu.

In 1330, the kingdom of Mossi invaded and conquered the city of Timbuktu. Gao had already been captured by Musa's general, and Musa quickly regained Timbuktu and built a rampart and stone fort, and placed a standing army, to protect the city from future invaders.[17]

While Musa’s palace has since vanished, the university and mosque still stand in Timbuktu today.

Death
The death of Mansa Musa is highly debated among modern historians and the Arab scholars who recorded history of Mali. When compared to the reigns of his successors, son Mansa Maghan (recorded rule from 1332 to 1336) and older brother Mansa Suleyman (recorded rule from 1336 to 1360), and Musa’s recorded 25 years of rule, the calculated date of death is 1332.[18] Other records declare Musa planned to abdicate the throne to his son Maghan, but he died soon after he returned from Mecca in 1325.[19] Further, according to an account by Ibn-Khaldun, Mansa Musa was alive when the city of Tlemcen in Algeria was conquered in 1337, as he sent a representative to Algeria to congratulate the conquerors on their victory.[20][21]

Legacy
Mansa Musa's building program caused an intellectual and economic expansion that would continue into the later Middle Ages, by strengthening Mali's economic power and establishing it as an important intellectual centre, attracting students from far and wide. Mansa Musa is also credited with assisting the birth of Sudano-Sahelian architecture and the spread of Islam in western Africa. His military campaigns allowed Mali to become the most powerful military on the continent rivaled only by Morocco and Egypt.[citation needed] His most notable legacy, was the hajj which not only caused an economic inflation in Mediterranean but may have indirectly supplied financial support for the Italian renaissance.[22]

This nikka single-handily caused an inflation in North Africa and Southern Europe and indirectly created modern day Italy.
 
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