It’s A Splash Bros Reunion! Are You Kuminga To The Poole Party? Warriors 2022 Season Thread

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

He doesnt have to be David Robinson or Giannis to contribute to the team. We watched Poole look historically bad his rookie season, I’ll leave it at that

Are we holding him to just being a contributor or living up to the tagline that was bestowed on him as a #2 pick, and fulfilling the gaping hole the Warriors have had at the 5 since this dynasty began?

In this context, I don't think Poole wasn't even that bad, in that, quite clearly there was something there to work with. He came into the league with a handle and could shoot - which are essentially two of the most important things for his position. Wiseman came into the league not knowing how to do anything as a big man, to go along with having poor hands and BBIQ, in general. If he was 6'9" and had average bounce, folks would start treating him in a more realistic manner, but because of his size and vert, they're far more willing to turn a blind eye to glaring issues and fall into the trap that we tend to do with someone who's 7ft and can jump out of the gym.

The things that Poole was bad at (decision making and defense), he still isn't any good at, he's just maxing out the strengths he had when he first came into the league. The only thing that Wiseman has proven he can do regularly is catch lobs, which needless to say, almost every 7fter can do. He doesn't have that dog in him either, which Poole did/does, even to the point where his overconfidence has been a double-edged sword.

He's two years older than Kuminga (a year old than Moody), and is significantly behind both in development, on top of the fact it'll take a lot longer for a big to develop in this system than it will a wing, so there isn't really a scenario I envision where he'll end up being that guy with nearly everything stacked against him.

 

[Chabot College]

Are we holding him to just being a contributor or living up to the tagline that was bestowed on him as a #2 pick, and fulfilling the gaping hole the Warriors have had at the 5 since this dynasty began?

In this context, I don't think Poole wasn't even that bad, in that, quite clearly there was something there to work with. He came into the league with a handle and could shoot - which are essentially two of the most important things for his position. Wiseman came into the league not knowing how to do anything as a big man, to go along with having poor hands and BBIQ, in general. If he was 6'9" and had average bounce, folks would start treating him in a more realistic manner, but because of his size and vert, they're far more willing to turn a blind eye to glaring issues and fall into the trap that we tend to do with someone who's 7ft and can jump out of the gym.

The things that Poole was bad at (decision making and defense), he still isn't any good at, he's just maxing out the strengths he had when he first came into the league. The only thing that Wiseman has proven he can do regularly is catch lobs, which needless to say, almost every 7fter can do. He doesn't have that dog in him either, which Poole did/does, even to the point where his overconfidence has been a double-edged sword.

I’m not looking for him to be a star. If he can be Javale McGee with a jump shot I will be very satisfied.

 

[yseJ]

I’m not looking for him to be a star. If he can be Javale McGee with a jump shot I will be very satisfied

I think the main problem is to be Javale McGee you need to rebound and at least rim protect a little bit. Wiseman somehow lacks basic ball and mental skills for a big. Screens, boards and some form of defense (even if Beli-level) and some vision to pass out is all warriors ask of their bigs.

Right now Wiseman is just a guy who can maybe score 14 points a game and be a blackhole everywhere else. Problem is, with Steph, Klay, Poole and Wiggins, they don't really need a center version of 2022 Melo at center...they need a better Looney.

 

[Don Homer]

I think the main problem is to be Javale McGee you need to rebound and at least rim protect a little bit. Wiseman somehow lacks basic ball and mental skills for a big. Screens, boards and some form of defense (even if Beli-level) and some vision to pass out is all warriors ask of their bigs.

Right now Wiseman is just a guy who can maybe score 14 points a game and be a blackhole everywhere else. Problem is, with Steph, Klay, Poole and Wiggins, they don't really need a center version of 2022 Melo at center...they need a better Looney.

They pretty much gotta teach dude how to be a center. And it's not like Looney, who had to learn a new position because of his injuries. Wiseman is a center that can't play any variation of the center position.

I've legit seen this man get outrebounded by Steph in games. Steph is a good rebounding guard, but goddamn dude. Even when steph was a fukking twig, he'd fight on the glass. nikka legit beat Dwight howard TWICE on the glass

Wiseman gets outmuscled by every opposing player, regardless of that player's size. HE LACKS PHYSICALITY.

Looney has shown he can pass out of a short roll. I doubt wiseman can even catch the basketball in a short roll situation.

In Kerr's system, big's dont hold the ball for too long. When he gets the ball in the post, he doesn't realize that the action has started and he'll immediately try to post up and get called for a travel. His role in this system is to set screens, rebound, finish at the rim, and protect the rim. But he's scared of contact, wont fight on the glass BECAUSE of that fear, and tries to block every shot imaginable and falls for every pump fake or is late to contest a shot that leads to a goaltend.

 

[Ohene]

hey im with you

i wanted the Warriors to trade these 3 picks they had this draft. Between Kuminga, Moody, Poole and Wiseman, i'd say we are at capacity. i dont really care about patrick baldwin jr and the other two 2nd round picks tbh, especially since we only signed white Donte and lost GP2 and Otto

And i'll never get the Embiid comparisons. Embiid has ALWAYS welcomed physicality. Wiseman is scared to set a screen, and does fadeway midrange jumpers because he doesnt want anyone touching him.


he's on the clock. We dont have patience. He's getting paid 12 million this season. and its been 15 months. fans have been patient long enough, especially since the organization has been pushing back his expected play time. he's not even playing in tonight's summer league bc it's a "rest day", according to Jama the head coach of summer league. This is an all-time pampering

EDIT: also the 2/3 of the people we drafted were injured coming into the draft LMAO.

Touche about the 12 million

But at the end of the day, you have to give him this season to show what he has gotten

I personally have faith but it isnt blind faith

If he isnt contributing they shouldnt pick up his player option…he will become Jahlil Okafor
2.0…so be it

 

[Ohene]

Lot of emotion and anxiety in this thread
You nikkas need to chill and act like the warriors are champions

 

[TOAD99]

Santos has a lot of potential

I saw him running the offense like a pg

 

[Chabot College]

Santos has a lot of potential

I saw him running the offense like a pg

Extremely turnover prone right now but the flashes are there. I see a small forward with point forward potential.

 

[Volt]

Including wiseman in the future core with Poole, kuminga and moody is disrespectful to the 3 of them because wiseman has literally shown nothing. He’s been historically bad in the few moments we’ve seen of him

To be fair though, there's literally no one else for the starting 5 if we're counting just the young core.

He had an entire year and change to work on his IQ. This is the team that turned Weedplate into a star.
Let's see how he looks like when he comes back... Hopefully this year.

 

[Don Homer]

Apparently moody is ballin in the summer league game

 

[Don Homer]

 

[yseJ]

That's good news. Kuminga is 2-10 and 0-4 both from the line and the 3, with 5 TOs

 

[Don Homer]

Apparently Kuminga acting like a bytch on the court, and on the sidelines

 

[Regular_P]

Kuminga was brutal tonight; really forcing it but he'll be okay.

Moody looked like a five year vet out there. That kid Santos is legit. If you guys extend Poole and Wiseman can figure it out/stay healthy, you already have a legit starting five for your next gen.

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Lot of emotion and anxiety in this thread
You nikkas need to chill and act like the warriors are champions

Lmaooo you know me I’ve been like this it def won’t change for the off season