"It's a fine superhero movie... but it's not a great movie." - Ethan Hawke

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Vanity Fair said:
James Mangold’s Logan, in which Hugh Jackman played an aging Wolverine during the twilight of the X-Men, received practically universal acclaim for its understated darkness and emotional maturity—qualities not often often found in today’s superhero movies. It was among the first in a new age of R-rated hero movies and was praised by many for being more than “just” a Marvel film. Its screenplay received both an Oscar nomination and a Writers Guild of America nod. Ethan Hawke, however, is not so impressed.

In a chat with The Film Stage ahead of the Lifetime Achievement Award he is being awarded at the Locarno Film Festival, Hawke discussed his feelings about the difference between a good movie and a good superheromovie.

“Now we have the problem that they tell us Logan is a great movie,” he said. “Well, it’s a great superhero movie. It still involves people in tights with metal coming out of their hands. It’s not Bresson. It’s not Bergman. But they talk about it like it is.

“I went to see Logan ‘cause everyone was like, ‘This is a great movie’ and I was like, ‘Really? No, this is a fine superhero movie.’ There’s a difference, but big business doesn’t think there’s a difference. Big business wants you to think that this is a great film because they wanna make money off of it.”

Hawke, the elder statesman of independent cinema, prefers to spend his efforts supporting art-film houses like Film Forum, and starring in movies like this year’s First Reformed, a highly reviewed, bleak drama from Paul Schrader.

Now I've heard actors and directors have issues with comic book movies in the past so he's not really say much new but he has a bit of a point. Fans hailing superhero/comic book movies as great movies when they're really just great... for superhero movies. :ld: Because I'll be honest, there's maybe three, maybe four CMB movies that can hold up against any great action movie of recent memory.

There is an escapism in these movies with a bit of realism but they're genre films. Question is, should they only be seen as genre films and nothing more or should they be praised up there with other great action movies.

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I think a lot of money would gladly put money on the line saying that Ethan has played in better PURE MOVIES than most Superhero movies.

This has a lot to do with that a lot of movies are original scripts and material and all these Superhero movies are basically movie spinoffs from comics.
 
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