It just hit me that Tupac was suicidal with mental health issues

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I am older now and take mental health issues in our community seriously. I don't dismiss it. However, as a kid listening to Tupac I use to think his later lyrics depicting suicidal and mental health problems were "art" or "deep" or "gangster."

Now I'm lost and I'm weary, so many tears
I'm suicidal, so don't stand near me
My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer
to embrace an early death, now there's nothin left
There was no mercy on the streets, I couldn't rest
I'm barely standin, bout to go to pieces, screamin peace

All his lyrics and antics make sense now. He was no martyr or Nostradmus about his own demise. It's more likely that that's what he was seeking all along. He was just too coward/guilty to actually kill himself.

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as a kid listening to Tupac I use to think his later lyrics depicting suicidal and mental health problems were "art" or "deep" or "gangster"
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I know you know his story, you belligerent little savage honkey. :scust:

Go crawl back into the cave you came from. :pacspit:
 

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I know you know his story, you belligerent little savage honkey. :scust:

Go crawl back into the cave you came from. :pacspit:
C’mon man don’t derail a legit thread about mental health by doing that. We have enough kids in the hood suffering with mental issues that we just dismiss. Remember “special ed” kids back when we was young? How we use to laugh at them? Tupac had legit mental health issues/demons (not special ed). It’s in his lyrics if we’re just willing to suspend this larger than life grand persona we have and just see him as a human being for a second.

Anyway I was in Harlem when Dinkins was mayor. I’m hood, just a bit educated with a decent income now.
 

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But still most people who grew up how he did, made it, then had to face the shyt he faced would have suicidal thoughts

It IS natural.. And he did not actually want to do it because he was religious and believed he had a purpose from God to fulfill.. He says this in interviews even.. I don't know what the fukk you're on with that "coward/guilty" shyt

Just like Lisa most people don't understand Pac
 

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But still most people who grew up how he did, made it, then had to face the shyt he faced would have suicidal thoughts

It IS natural.. And he did not actually want to do it because he was religious and believed he had a purpose from God to fulfill.. He says this in interviews even.. I don't know what the fukk you're on with that "coward/guilty" shyt

Just like Lisa most people don't understand Pac
I’m glad that you agree and please don’t take me as saying he had mental issues or suicidal as derogatory. That’s not my intent. I respect Pac deeply and he’s one of my favorite rappers of all time. I just find it surprising how we never discuss his obvious mental health issues. It’s something that we do in our community all the time. We point at the crack head and dismiss or thug kid who was abused as a kid and dismiss. Maybe if someone wouldn’t have dismiss Pacs obvious admission of mental health issues and sought him help he would still be alive.

Also I take the “coward” thing back. I believe it was more guilt for what that would mean for his mother and guilt about his religious beliefs which as we know considers suicide a sin.
 

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I’m glad that you agree and please don’t take me as saying he had mental issues or suicidal as derogatory. That’s not my intent. I respect Pac deeply and he’s one of my favorite rappers of all time. I just find it surprising how we never discuss his obvious mental health issues. It’s something that we do in our community all the time. We point at the crack head and dismiss or thug kid who was abused as a kid and dismiss. Maybe if someone wouldn’t have dismiss Pacs obvious admission of mental health issues and sought him help he would still be alive.

Also I take the “coward” thing back. I believe it was more guilt for what that would mean for his mother and guilt about his religious beliefs which as we know considers suicide a sin.
I'm not fully agreeing tho.

Most people will have suicidal thoughts at some point in their lives.. He ain't entertain them bruh. He had something to live for so he didn't want to die.

And suicide is a sin just like everything else.. That "suicide is the biggest sin you're going to Hell" bullshyt ain't even in the Bible, just the typical EuroChristian trash they used to hold blacks down back in the day and still got most of yall believing

If you wanted to "help" Pac, how about giving him some money. Or eliminating the nikkas and bytches that set him up. His "issues" ain't just pop up outta his head :comeon:
 

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I'm not fully agreeing tho.

Most people will have suicidal thoughts at some point in their lives.. He ain't entertain them bruh. He had something to live for so he didn't want to die.

And suicide is a sin just like everything else.. That "suicide is the biggest sin you're going to Hell" bullshyt ain't even in the Bible, just the typical EuroChristian trash they used to hold blacks down back in the day and still got most of yall believing

If you wanted to "help" Pac, how about giving him some money. Or eliminating the nikkas and bytches that set him up. His "issues" ain't just pop up outta his head :comeon:
He didn’t entertain them? He has entire records entertaining them. I just gave two obvious example in my first post.

And Pac rapped about sins, Jesus and sinning all the time obviously he ascribed to many of those beliefs.

The rest of your post is irrelevant.
 

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He didn’t entertain them? He has entire records entertaining them. I just gave two obvious example in my first post.

And Pac rapped about sins, Jesus and sinning all the time obviously he ascribed to many of those beliefs.

The rest of your post is irrelevant.
He didn't ATTEMPT shyt cuz.. :snoop:

Writing about suicide don't mean you have mental health issues. Is this that hard to understand?

The more you post the more I think you're not black so I'm bout to stop.. You're wasting my time.
 

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He didn’t entertain them? He has entire records entertaining them. I just gave two obvious example in my first post.

And Pac rapped about sins, Jesus and sinning all the time obviously he ascribed to many of those beliefs.

The rest of your post is irrelevant.
Shut the fukk up.
 

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He didn't ATTEMPT shyt cuz.. :snoop:

Writing about suicide don't mean you have mental health issues. Is this that hard to understand?

The more you post the more I think you're not black so I'm bout to stop.. You're wasting my time.
He held a 9 and the only thing that stopped him was the thought of his mother. Does he actually have to pull the trigger to be considered obviously suicidal?

Writing about suicide does mean you have mental health issues. Unless you’re willing to cherry pick lyrics. Either they were all truthful or all fake. Pick one.
 

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Writing about suicide does mean you have mental health issues. Unless you’re willing to cherry pick lyrics. Either they were all truthful or all fake. Pick one.
Alright we're done here, this shyt is too stupid/white for me. Lol

Much love :manny:
 
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