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I work in the cloud sector currently. I think I just need to move out of operations and into the software development side. Last week a former colleague reached out to me about a security engineer position that opened up in his company. Tbh I think what's killing me the most is the on-call and client facing portion of the job. Might take a week of PTO to get my head right and start looking elsewhere.



Yeah my family has told me to start looking for some fed/state government positions if possible. I think I'll start looking into that possibility tonight.

This sounds like a good idea. Sometimes you need a break just to organize your thoughts and get some sort of plan or strategy. Government jobs are slow to hire, so the advice I was given was to search periodically, apply if I feel qualified, but still keep looking. You'll be fine! Its a good time to explore new things in IT.
 
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After all the strides I've made in my short IT career I'm honestly burnt out. The constant on-call duties, the insane responsibility, having to work with demanding and stubborn clients, etc.

If I could leave IT and make as much money in another field I would quit my job today. I just have no idea what else I'd do. I'm not sure if I'm burnt out with IT or if I'm just realizing this working 8-9 hours/day for 5 days/week is the biggest scam on earth. I know I'm lucky as hell to be in my position but I'm just mentally drained.

:francis:
That's why I constantly switch fields and/or jobs every 1 or 2 years. Companies get too comfortable working you into the ground the longer you stay in one place. Thinking you don't have a life outside of work.

I tool up on some new technology then quit of the blue. It normally takes the new company a year or two before they start getting on my nerves like the last one. But once they get too comfortable coming to me for every problem or expecting me to work weekends I'm ghost. Starting at a new company they aren't gonna dump a ton of responsibility on the new guy. I used that time to recharge and learn new skills so I don't get burned out.

But I'll never stay put anyplace that works their IT people into the ground. If the company isn't efficient and we'll run I'm not sticking around long.
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I work in the cloud sector currently. I think I just need to move out of operations and into the software development side. Last week a former colleague reached out to me about a security engineer position that opened up in his company. Tbh I think what's killing me the most is the on-call and client facing portion of the job. Might take a week of PTO to get my head right and start looking elsewhere.



Yeah my family has told me to start looking for some fed/state government positions if possible. I think I'll start looking into that possibility tonight.

Same here man, I like my job because not one day is ever the same. The on calls I just can't do this shyt long term. Someone randomly calling you at 2:00 am in the morning because they need assistance is just garbage and depressing. I want to leave work at work and I can't do that here. I am already planning to leave but I got training coming up that's only going to help me down the line so I am rolling with the punches for at least six months or so.
 

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Same here man, I like my job because not one day is ever the same. The on calls I just can't do this shyt long term. Someone randomly calling you at 2:00 am in the morning because they need assistance is just garbage and depressing. I want to leave work at work and I can't do that here. I am already planning to leave but I got training coming up that's only going to help me down the line so I am rolling with the punches for at least six months or so.

Just finished my on-call this past weekend. Got called late Saturday at 1am, 230am, and then again at 4am. I deadass almost quit today but ended up just logging out early to decompress and play video games. Plus working from home makes it even worse. Everytime I sit down at my desk I see my work laptop and just get depressed as hell.
 

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This sounds like a good idea. Sometimes you need a break just to organize your thoughts and get some sort of plan or strategy. Government jobs are slow to hire, so the advice I was given was to search periodically, apply if I feel qualified, but still keep looking. You'll be fine! Its a good time to explore new things in IT.
The fastest way to get a Government job is usually being a contractor that works onsite already. Back in the day they would hand out Fed jobs to contractors like candy. All you needed was a Government employee to vouch for you. They would even bypass retired military applicants who were supposed to get first preference in favor of contractors who kissed ass.

I couldn't imagine applying for a Federal Government job and having to wait on them to get their shyt together.
 

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The fastest way to get a Government job is usually being a contractor that works onsite already. Back in the day they would hand out Fed jobs to contractors like candy. All you needed was a Government employee to vouch for you. They would even bypass retired military applicants who were supposed to get first preference in favor of contractors who kissed ass.

I couldn't imagine applying for a Federal Government job and having to wait on them to get their shyt together.

I’m new to the whole Fed contracting thing, but I did see them pushing a lot of IT Specialist jobs with the COVID, so the response has been better than I experienced years ago. Also, my friend is hiring for the role I’m going after and she’s keeping be updated.

Either way, I’m still applying. I wouldn’t bank on them as my only move for sure.
 

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I’m new to the whole Fed contracting thing, but I did see them pushing a lot of IT Specialist jobs with the COVID, so the response has been better than I experienced years ago. Also, my friend is hiring for the role I’m going after and she’s keeping be updated.

Either way, I’m still applying. I wouldn’t bank on them as my only move for sure.
I applied for a Federal job with the Navy but didn't get the position. Only to apply for a Federal contract doing virtually the same thing. And they basically begged me to take the job.

I wasted years applying for Federal jobs when I could've just walked in as a contractor had I known better.
:francis:

Whole thing kind of soured me on Federal employment. After seeing how inept and disorganized things we're being run. Unlike Contractors those Govies can do no wrong and get away with murder.
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Brehs,

This thread is full of years worth of valuable and relevant information. You need to read through this whole-entire-thread front to back. This is EXACTLY what I did when I started in IT and its the reason I have a great career now.

From 2017 til now I have read through this entire thread 30 times. With each revisit, I found something new that I might have missed or ignored previously but speaks to me now that I'm at a certain career level.

I've been dropping gem after gem because I want you niccas to flourish and I want to keep this thread going strong, But don't expect me or anybody else to spoon-feed you every step of the way. You have to take the initiative, research and find out shyt for yourselves.

This thread has all the info you need to to get started. The A+, Sec+, Net+ and CCNA, MCSA and CISSP has been covered 100's of times in painstakingly detailed fashion. Examples of the amount of money you can make has been discovered thousands of times by real people working in the field, telling you how to get there. You just have to read this thread front to back. it's all you need.

When I started, I didn't know shyt. Didnt know how to get started, didn't know what this or that cert was for. I was attending some certification bootcamp while unemployed and my wife was the breadwinner. She was stressed, I was stressed, my pride was shot, and at times I wanted to just give up and go back to working warehouse jobs because it was tough getting a job in IT. Interview after interview led to nothing. One shady recruiter after another misleading me and selling me bullshyt knowing they didn't have any jobs lined up.

It started with this thread. Cats like B.Dizzle, Havoc, and others was dropping all this inspiring and informative shyt page after page. I became hooked. This thread was my entertainment, my vision board, and my bible. I read this shyt obsessively over and over again to the point I already knew what to do before I landed my first job.

Got my 1st job in IT after getting my A+ and following the advice in this thread starting at $18/hourly. 7 months later I got another jobs paying $28 an hour. Gotta pay raise 7 months after that making $34.00 an hour. From the time I got my 1st job, My life started to turn around like a muthafukker. Debt was being eliminated rapidly; Bills just evaporating, Having all this disposable income. Between me an my wife we bring home 8 G's or more a month now. Been able to work from home during this COVID bullshyt and I cant remember the last time we were even hurting for money. Sometimes we forget that we even got paid because we still got money sitting in the account from previous pay periods.


Even with all the success and blessing coming my way, I still read through this thread when I'm not home labbing, cert prepping or just living life. This shyt is a constant grind and you need to always be learning and and taking the initiative to invest in yourself, Having a mentor is good, but fukk that. Don't sit around waiting for muthafukkers to teach you how to do anything or pay for your certs. I don't care how much the certs cost or how much time you have to invest into learning and growing, This is the nature of the game and you need to get numb to it. Put your emotions and ego to the side and attack this game with relentless determination. Failure is to be expected but it aint shyt in the long run. Keep pushing and ignore the setbacks.

Dont matter how hard something is. If you want it, you will find a way to justify the energy you put into it. The key to becoming good at anything is repetition+time. Dont matter if you suck at it or cant fathom how you could ever do something you think is impossible. You have to be stubborn to the voice of your own inner resistance/self-doubt and just keep trying and one day shyt will just click and then it snowballs into competence, into expertise and finally into mastery.

You think Programming languages is impossible, You think Linux is spaceship magic wizardry that only the elite minds of the world can understand or that cloud is some spooky shyt that you will never be able to learn. It's all bullshyt. Keep pushing and time will do the rest of the work. In this game you will find your self around muthafukkas who are smarter and more experienced than you but fukk it let it be your motivation. You dont have to be the smartest to make top dollar, just be on top of your shyt with a some modicum of people skills and you will flourish. You'll be able to blow past all these gurus and nerds who have expertise, but none of the hustle or drive to play in the big leagues. You will reach a point where you think you're not good enough but once again, it's all bullshyt. You are, even if your job doesn't acknowledge. Just get your weight up and bounce for a better one if need be.

All in all. you have to be willing to bet on your self and take initiative. I been through the shyt, people in this thread have been through the shyt, and you're gonna go through it as well.
Keep in mind that you're in control of your destiny in this IT game and when you hit a rough patch or start to doubt yourself, push though it because it aint nothing but some ole bullshyt to learn from and get better.

The world is your oyster my G's but you gotta believe it.
Stay solid and the success will come 100-fold. I promise you this.

Done.

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Just finished my on-call this past weekend. Got called late Saturday at 1am, 230am, and then again at 4am. I deadass almost quit today but ended up just logging out early to decompress and play video games. Plus working from home makes it even worse. Everytime I sit down at my desk I see my work laptop and just get depressed as hell.
yeah breh sounds like the company is getting to you. being on-call is something thats pretty hard to avoid the further we move up. but it seems to be an underlying problem there.

whats going on in the backend thats causing you to get called so much? i'd be pissed getting called 3 times in one night like that
 
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When you had little experience how did you format your resume? My problem is I only have 2 years and I don't know how to cover all the holes in the resume. I still got BZILLE resume sample but I got literally shyt to put on it.
 

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I'm wondering if I should finish the ccna then look a job because when I think about trying to find a job I have so little meaningful experience I haven't anything to really put down.
 

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I'm wondering if I should finish the ccna then look a job because when I think about trying to find a job I have so little meaningful experience I haven't anything to really put down.
Can't you just create a bunch of labs at home? When I first started and nobody would give me my first real IT job. I just put down skills I learned at in my home lab mostly. I created my own website and hosted it on my cable modem connection. Didn't cost me anything to do that. Put that website on my resume showing a bunch of technical projects I was working on. Now you have GitHub and YouTube where you can post content. You don't know anyone with their own small Business? I would hit up people I know that ran their own Business and do some free technical work for them. And in return they would let me put their companies on my resume. The only thing I lied about was the duration of these jobs.
 

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When you had little experience how did you format your resume? My problem is I only have 2 years and I don't know how to cover all the holes in the resume. I still got BZILLE resume sample but I got literally shyt to put on it.
You'll have to create labs and work on those skills on there. then put it on your resume. look up free certs that you can get done in a week or so that are those skills specifically.
 
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