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With Javascript, in order to do anything with it, you will be interacting with the document object model(DOM) to manipulate HTML elements. The document object model is essentially the webpage being turned into an object that you can use javascript to interact with. For example if you have a div with an id of content div, you
must first select the div and then you choose how you want to manipulate it. One of the methods to select an item is document.getElementById.

document.getElementById("contentdiv").innerHTML = "blablabla";

in order to really learn about the DOM and how javascript interacts with it, it's best to get a book.


I actually am reading a book and what you explained is on the third chapter which talks about that. Makes sense.
 

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That's not true. Only reason he would need to know anything about UNIX is if he was writing code on or for that platform. If he is gonna be a windows-based developer, Windows is the platform he should be familiar with (he may never write code for a *nix-based system). If he is going to learn to program, he should start with the language he will be using, whether it is Java, C#, Javascript, Python, ASP.net, SQL, or whatever. Learning Awk or Bash (two shell-scripting languages) isn't the way to go for a beginner programmer.

not true. for a guy like him who knows nothing about programming, java, c++ and all that other stuff you mentioned would scare him off for good, except maybe python. and yes, UNIX is the best platform him to start off on. i personally hate windows as i'm not the clicking around kinda guy. it irritates me. with UNIX u have more freedom and a fuccckton of FREE tools to help u do whatever u wanna do. with unix u can automate the hell out of everything u do. with windows, u'd have to be next level genius. if dude wants to go with windows, oh well.
 

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not true. for a guy like him who knows nothing about programming, java, c++ and all that other stuff you mentioned would scare him off for good, except maybe python. and yes, UNIX is the best platform him to start off on. i personally hate windows as i'm not the clicking around kinda guy. it irritates me. with UNIX u have more freedom and a fuccckton of FREE tools to help u do whatever u wanna do. with unix u can automate the hell out of everything u do. with windows, u'd have to be next level genius. if dude wants to go with windows, oh well.
Yeah Unix is the only way I go. I still expand my knowledge with VMWare but I keep Windows away from me as much as possible.
 

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not true. for a guy like him who knows nothing about programming, java, c++ and all that other stuff you mentioned would scare him off for good, except maybe python. and yes, UNIX is the best platform him to start off on. i personally hate windows as i'm not the clicking around kinda guy. it irritates me. with UNIX u have more freedom and a fuccckton of FREE tools to help u do whatever u wanna do. with unix u can automate the hell out of everything u do. with windows, u'd have to be next level genius. if dude wants to go with windows, oh well.

Yeah Unix is the only way I go. I still expand my knowledge with VMWare but I keep Windows away from me as much as possible.
Any good starting points y'all can recommend?
 

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Any good starting points y'all can recommend?
You can download Virtual Box to setup a VM: https://www.virtualbox.org I can't remember if VMWare has a free player anymore. Check their website. Now for the OS unless you have a service contract you wont be able to download RedHat Linux but you can get their other product Fedora to at least get an idea: https://fedoraproject.org/
an alternative that might help as well is Oracle Linux, it's a derivative of RedHat Linux and Oracle really is trying to push their version. http://www.oracle.com/us/technologies/linux/product/overview/index.html if you can get your hands on RedHat that is what alot of companies use. you can probably even get Linux books on the cheap at used book stores. Once you have an OS setup you can tinker around with MySQL, java, c++ there is a lot of resources on the web since most of the stuff is opensource.
 

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not true. for a guy like him who knows nothing about programming, java, c++ and all that other stuff you mentioned would scare him off for good, except maybe python. and yes, UNIX is the best platform him to start off on. i personally hate windows as i'm not the clicking around kinda guy. it irritates me. with UNIX u have more freedom and a fuccckton of FREE tools to help u do whatever u wanna do. with unix u can automate the hell out of everything u do. with windows, u'd have to be next level genius. if dude wants to go with windows, oh well.

Yeah Unix is the only way I go. I still expand my knowledge with VMWare but I keep Windows away from me as much as possible.


LMAO! It's obvious that y'all dudes are heavily invested in *nix-based systems and will argue somebody to the death about which system is best or why they should be using unix :whoa:. However, I can get down on ANY OS (writing Java, C#, or C++) :win: so the whole Windows vs. Unix-based argument gets laughed at by me because they both have advantages and disadvantages depending on what you're trying to do. Cats that usually only have halfway-decent skills in only one area are the dudes that ALWAYS get the flame wars started, :mjlol:.

But, for y'all to sit here and say somebody should learn unix before they start programming is flat-out FALSE. And @TRUEST to sit here and recommend somebody learn shell-scripting because learning Java or C# will be too hard is some dumb-ass logic that I have never even heard before:wtf:. How about I get my dude @Data-Hawk (a Windows-based developer) in here to weigh-in on the subject :IHearDemDucktalesNikka:.
 

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LMAO! It's obvious that y'all dudes are heavily invested in *nix-based systems and will argue somebody to the death about which system is best or why they should be using unix :whoa:. However, I can get down on ANY OS (writing Java, C#, or C++) :win: so the whole Windows vs. Unix-based argument gets laughed at by me because they both have advantages and disadvantages depending on what you're trying to do. Cats that usually only have halfway-decent skills in only one area are the dudes that ALWAYS get the flame wars started, :mjlol:.

But, for y'all to sit here and say somebody should learn unix before they start programming is flat-out FALSE. And @TRUEST to sit here and recommend somebody learn shell-scripting because learning Java or C# will be too hard is some dumb-ass logic that I have never even heard before:wtf:. How about I get my dude @Data-Hawk (a Windows-based developer) in here to weigh-in on the subject :IHearDemDucktalesNikka:.
I wasn't arguing my preference is Unix. I never said to stay away from Windows did I? :usure:
 

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whats a good alternative to paying for CCNAX accelerated course(to prepare for the exam ) ?
 

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LMAO! It's obvious that y'all dudes are heavily invested in *nix-based systems and will argue somebody to the death about which system is best or why they should be using unix :whoa:. However, I can get down on ANY OS (writing Java, C#, or C++) :win: so the whole Windows vs. Unix-based argument gets laughed at by me because they both have advantages and disadvantages depending on what you're trying to do. Cats that usually only have halfway-decent skills in only one area are the dudes that ALWAYS get the flame wars started, :mjlol:.

But, for y'all to sit here and say somebody should learn unix before they start programming is flat-out FALSE. And @TRUEST to sit here and recommend somebody learn shell-scripting because learning Java or C# will be too hard is some dumb-ass logic that I have never even heard before:wtf:. How about I get my dude @Data-Hawk (a Windows-based developer) in here to weigh-in on the subject :IHearDemDucktalesNikka:.


LOL..Didn't read where the argument started. But here goes, I try avoid the Windows vs Linux debate because *Nix based people like to brag about how difficult the system is and how Vi & Emacs is the best programing tool ever:heh:. All Jokes aside. I wouldn't recommend straight Shell scripting ( Bash etc ) to a beginner because well what use does it really have besides doing system level work? Java or C# is just fine for most beginners, they are going to be lost at the beginning no matter what language you use anyway. They are all basically the same, the trick is how you go about solving the problem. I use a mixture of vbscript , C# , Java, Objective-C at work. They all have their annoyances, but really aren't too far removed from each other.

And while *Nix people tend to be higher paid than windows people, Its 100x easier to get a job developing/administrating a windows platform. *Nix people tend to be HIGHLY specialist. If you are developing on a *Nix platform for a living, you are most likely dealing with a very critical application ( embedded stuff, security, banking software etc ), you surely aren't developing software for regular consumers. Also *NIX developers tend to have to roll their own code more than a windows developer.


Uhh, I don't know what I'm talking about anymore...:snooze:
 
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Can anybody shed light on how "secure" XP will be on VM's next month? My job still has it on a lot of terminals. :damn:

If there's an exploit out in the wild and there's a fix. If I remember correctly M$ will charge you 50K for it...Don't know if this is still true, but its just better to upgrade them. My job is giving everybody until April 8th to upgrade their home machines or else they will be blocked from VPN.
 

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Ok brehs this is my deal. I work full time as an aircraft electrician (civilian contractor). I make close to 75K/yr but i just started going to school for a degree in cyber forensics. I have a friend that will help me with certifications once I earn my BS. How much of a cut in pay will I realistically be looking at? I'm in the DC area btw

Let me revise my post. If this is really what you want to do, dont listen to any of us besides the advice its going to be very hard to break into.my security teacher also did forensics. Heres what I remeber him telling us. You have to have skills in ALL areas:
*The Law
*Programming
* Fully understand how Hard Drives and Memory operate( to protect the evidence, everything has to be timestamped, you will be brought into court alot and have to prove you didnt temper or create the presented evidence)
* One fukk up such as data in memory not being written to the HD correctly can blow some cases. Basically the computer is a crime scene.


Your best bet to break into the field asap. Start developing software that deals with forensics and hope it becomes popular. I remeber there being a book on how to write such tools in Python.
 
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Just had my first day at work, went pretty well got tripped up on a few issues but my manager was impressed, by the end of shift I knew about 90% of the work.

one problem was like this guy couldn't attach a file using yahoo mail, when you click the attach icon there was no attach from computer, so Im like wtf and I saw he has a gmail account so I told him to use that instead lol, I really didnt know what to do, I should of looked in account settings to see if it was disabled or something but I didnt
 
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My cousin has been trying to break into an office IT gig for about 2 years with no luck

I left IT many years ago & lost out on connects so I couldn't really help him.

I looked at his resume & I personally don't understand why is it he can't get any level 1 gigs

He's not even getting called for interviews

Anyone mind looking this over?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByEdAoxNww_6TnpLTktYc1hWYUk/edit?usp=sharing
 

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My cousin has been trying to break into an office IT gig for about 2 years with no luck

I left IT many years ago & lost out on connects so I couldn't really help him.

I looked at his resume & I personally don't understand why is it he can't get any level 1 gigs

He's not even getting called for interviews

Anyone mind looking this over?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByEdAoxNww_6TnpLTktYc1hWYUk/edit?usp=sharing

If he's not getting calls for interviews it's a resume problem. Just glancing at it, he graduated in 2009 and his first listed job was in late 2011? Put the certs/education at the end. Make the work experience the focus. I'd :camby:the OSX part. All three jobs seem entry level. There's no progression of responsibility. Formatting is off a bit, odd bullet point out of place. Hope I don't come across as too harsh but that's a resume that's just headed for the :trash:, especially in this economy.
 
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