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How much can you survive on? You’re in NYC, right?

I’m wondering what you’re expecting to make in your first IT job.

Yea NYC I'm from the hood bro and live in a gentrifying hood right now on a roughly 50k salary. I came up with a single parent way less than that. All that being said, I want the big bucks and that deluxe apt in the sky.
 

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Yea NYC I'm from the hood bro and live in a gentrifying hood right now on a roughly 50k salary. I came up with a single parent way less than that. All that being said, I want the big bucks and that deluxe apt in the sky.
Do the part time thing on the weekends for like 3 months and then start applying when you have A+ and network +. Put the part time gig on your resume as your current job. When they ask why you’re leaving so soon, say it’s a contract and you’re looking for a permanent role.

Personally, I think you might need to get a Windows or Mac OS cert.

Getting that first IT job is tough.
 

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Do the part time thing on the weekends for like 3 months and then start applying when you have A+ and network +. Put the part time gig on your resume as your current job. When they ask why you’re leaving so soon, say it’s a contract and you’re looking for a permanent role.

Personally, I think you might need to get a Windows or Mac OS cert.

Getting that first IT job is tough.

I was told to Skip both those and do Sec+ and CCNA but yea, I'll do part time help desk weekends
 

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At my job, the contractors are complaining that they can't access an online tool that they need to use. But they can access the site when their VPN is off. It's the contractor company's VPN.

I don't understand what they want me to do about it. I talked to my soon-to-be-gone coworker about it:

Me: The contractors are having trouble accessing the site
Him: Yeah, they had this problem like a year ago with Salesforce. It's their VPN that's the issue.
Me: Oh. What'd you do to fix it?
Him: Nothing, it's their VPN.

I think I'm gonna have to set a meeting with me, them, and probably my manager. I just don't want to.

Most likely their VPN changes their IPs to an auth tier subnet that isnt allowed by the tool. Ask them if anything has changed recently.

Smh. I found out that it's my company's VPN that they're using. I brought it up in a team meeting and people made jokes. "It's a layer 8 problem" and "It's DNS, it's always DNS."

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Question, so you all know I'm currently studying for Sec + and it's been going well. I'm currently at a new job unrelated to tech in the employment nonprofit sector. I have a B.A. in English and I'm 28 so I don't want to do helpdesk if I can't help it. I was wondering if I should maybe get a part-time job at nights or the weekends as helpdesk or tech support because I don't want the lack of experience to pigeon hold me.

Also, I've gotten some good advice on what cert pathways to take. I'm doing Sec+-CCNA-AWS-Azure Windows -Linux. Now does that job title look like Cloud Engineer, Sec Engineer or Dev ops with all those certs? Just confused on the exact roles I should look for. And also once I get Sec+ and CCNA I should leave my current just and apply for system admin?

Sorry if this has been answered already I've been backtracking this thread and I'm on page 67 but I think this is before the Cloud boom.
Dont leave until you have a job.
Dont focus so much on title for now focus mainly on the job description. Right now you are better served getting exp.
 

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This is why I've been saying when you see an opportunity elsewhere that pays more money and helps move you up the ladder, just take it and fukk how your employer feels. Some years back one company was real mad at me cos I left after a month, but these same people will get rid of you in a heartbeat whenever they're ready with no fukks given.

"Loyalty" in the workplace is fairytale status.
 

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Talked to the IT person at my job he said they are going to have a System Admin job role in the future and they would rather hire from within but first I need some experience. He told me helpdesk to start off, I found a weekend helpdesk job at a hospital 7pm-7am y'all brush think it's worth it? Already working full time 9-5 and other hobbies are gym, BJJ, therapy church and date or 2. Because I'm seeing just get virtual labs and just get the internship or helpdesk but I'm 28 and don't want to regress
 

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Talked to the IT person at my job he said they are going to have a System Admin job role in the future and they would rather hire from within but first I need some experience. He told me helpdesk to start off, I found a weekend helpdesk job at a hospital 7pm-7am y'all brush think it's worth it? Already working full time 9-5 and other hobbies are gym, BJJ, therapy church and date or 2. Because I'm seeing just get virtual labs and just get the internship or helpdesk but I'm 28 and don't want to regress
Are you looking to be an Admin for workstations or servers?
 

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From my experience, help desk wont help you on the Server side. You'll be troubleshooting Windows workstations. If you want experience in server administration, you'll need to work on a Windows or Linux patching team. See if you can shadow meetings with those teams to get a gist of what you'll need to know. I know a few Jr. Admins that do stuff like working tickets patching individual server issues.
 

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Can I get y'all thoughts on this twitter thread?
 

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Talked to the IT person at my job he said they are going to have a System Admin job role in the future and they would rather hire from within but first I need some experience. He told me helpdesk to start off, I found a weekend helpdesk job at a hospital 7pm-7am y'all brush think it's worth it? Already working full time 9-5 and other hobbies are gym, BJJ, therapy church and date or 2. Because I'm seeing just get virtual labs and just get the internship or helpdesk but I'm 28 and don't want to regress
First breh you're all over the place. What is it that you are trying to accomplish? At this rate you're going to be in the same place in 5 years. You need to focus on one thing at a time and work on growing from there. If you are truly interested in a career in IT, you're going to have to make some sacrifices. It's going to be hard to get a system admin job with no experience. We can guide you but you have to have some direction and be willing to put in the effort.
 

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First breh you're all over the place. What is it that you are trying to accomplish? At this rate you're going to be in the same place in 5 years. You need to focus on one thing at a time and work on growing from there. If you are truly interested in a career in IT, you're going to have to make some sacrifices. It's going to be hard to get a system admin job with no experience. We can guide you but you have to have some direction and be willing to put in the effort.


My bad. I have a B.A. in English, my career has been going no where in non profit. I mean I'm moving up and I love helping the community and kids in the environment I come from, but the money is not there and I live in NYC. I've been bullshytting on Grad school and tech for the longest but I know I don't want to pay for grad school and while studying for the sec + I already realized I know some of the topics and this is fun. With that being said, I've been researching for high paying CyberSecurity Tech jobs and the answers I got are: Cloud Engineer, Network Admin, Systems Engineer. The generally consensus is I will have to start at helpdesk and level up with certs. I know I will have to take the helpdesk job or volunteer hours on the weekend because to leave my job now and take a big cut in salary for help desk at my age and where I live, I can't afford it.

I'm willing to sacrifice whatever's necessary to get my career in order, if I have to quit BJJ and workout at home so be it. (I worked out at home during quarantine) I've revamped my linkedin, sent out applications for help desk weekend and part time work. I'm confident I can use my social and interpersonal skills learned with my English degree and non profit experience in adjacent with IT skills I can learn on the job. Just need to be given that chance. Also been studying for Sec + and have been getting 85's on practice tests.
 

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My bad. I have a B.A. in English, my career has been going no where in non profit. I mean I'm moving up and I love helping the community and kids in the environment I come from, but the money is not there and I live in NYC. I've been bullshytting on Grad school and tech for the longest but I know I don't want to pay for grad school and while studying for the sec + I already realized I know some of the topics and this is fun. With that being said, I've been researching for high paying CyberSecurity Tech jobs and the answers I got are: Cloud Engineer, Network Admin, Systems Engineer. The generally consensus is I will have to start at helpdesk and level up with certs. I know I will have to take the helpdesk job or volunteer hours on the weekend because to leave my job now and take a big cut in salary for help desk at my age and where I live, I can't afford it.

I'm willing to sacrifice whatever's necessary to get my career in order, if I have to quit BJJ and workout at home so be it. (I worked out at home during quarantine) I've revamped my linkedin, sent out applications for help desk weekend and part time work. I'm confident I can use my social and interpersonal skills learned with my English degree and non profit experience in adjacent with IT skills I can learn on the job. Just need to be given that chance. Also been studying for Sec + and have been getting 85's on practice tests.

I can add more later, but first get your Security + certification. If you haven't already, give yourself a deadline (aim for later this month or early January). You listed three different role types, so I would suggest you narrow down and Google/research each role, and determine which one seems the most interesting to YOU. You can rank the roles based off your interest level if you want.

Once you complete the research you'll probably get a better understanding of the starting path you will need to take. For network positions, I would recommend looking at NOC tech roles, and for security look for SOC roles. Obviously, look for entry level roles at 0 - 2 years of experience. The end goal for six figures are roles ending in "Engineer" or "Manager", but technician, support, or specialist roles are usually where you start.

Try to knock out that certification. With no experience or technical education, you will need something that keeps your resume from being tossed. It may also give you a better chance with government roles.
 
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