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Ended up accepting the role with a healthcare startup in which the director stayed in touch from a previous interview...old job is basically begging me to stay, swear I should try to work both jobs but I’m going to sit back and hopefully it’ll be smooth sailing at the new gig

congrats. What certain you have breh?
 

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congrats. What certain you have breh?
Last cert I got was a Microsoft one probably a decade or so ago. I’m planning on going after the Aws architect next only because I’ve already been studying for it but for me, taking the cert classes and labbing has been enough to get me through some of the interview processes (it’s a numbers game, I’ve had atleast 30 interviews in the last couple of years, some I’ve bombed, some I’ve gotten offers from :manny:)
 

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Last cert I got was a Microsoft one probably a decade or so ago. I’m planning on going after the Aws architect next only because I’ve already been studying for it but for me, taking the cert classes and labbing has been enough to get me through some of the interview processes (it’s a numbers game, I’ve had atleast 30 interviews in the last couple of years, some I’ve bombed, some I’ve gotten offers from :manny:)


Word? So barely any certs and you be making moves like that? What about a degree?
 

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Word? So barely any certs and you be making moves like that? What about a degree?
I’ve got a bachelors but that doesn’t even necessarily equate to more money, it’s a mix of skills, experience and business acumen that has me where I’m at. Different routes in this IT thing but it didn’t happen overnight. It took 4 job changes over the last 4 years, and picking up skills and production experience and carrying it to the next one and not being stagnant. If I’m not learning anymore then it’s time to roll, regardless of how good the pay is
 

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I throw those CCIE dreams in the bushes :mjlol: I let my CCNP expire too. I havent touched a cisco device in like 2 yrs and plus when I was studying for the CCIE I was learning a lot of irrelevant shyt and said fukk this. I still got my network knowledge I just didnt think the CCIE was going to benefit me at this point in my career and for my goals.

I instead focused on python/aws and havent looked back :blessed:
:yes: I've been preaching this for a while now in this thread. If you're trying to make a career out of this, or if you're on your way up and trying to get an edge over the competition, cloud + automation is the fastest route.


Cloud + Linux + Some scripting language(python/go/node)
Cloud + Network + Security + Some scripting language(python/go/node)
Cloud + Containers + Some scripting language(python/go/node)

Any combo of the above will have you eating for a while.

If you wanna make stupid money, learn iac tooling and couple them with the above skillsets to create, manage and scale highly available infrastructure:

Terraform/Pulumi, ansible/saltstack, CI/CD(gitlab/jenkins), basic version control with Git, and Kubernetes. This may seem overwhelming at first, but you're not gonna learn all of this at once and you don't need to learn all of it. It's a natural evolution to your cloud/infra workflow... once you've gotten comfortable enough with cloud infra, clicked around the gui a few times and you find yourself repeating the same tasks over and over, you're gonna find it annoying and ask yourself.. how do I make this faster? That's where these tools come in.

Also.. I see a lot of people get overwhelmed by coding portion like you need to be a full stack developer to begin to automate stuff. You really don't need to go that deep.. just learn basic data structures, dataflow, loops and error handling and you're off to the races. You can start automating shyt within a few days of going through a python course. The most important thing is having a high level overview of what you're trying to accomplish, what pieces you're trying to tie together and how they integrate with your code. Also, don't think you need to write 1000s of lines of code before it's considered automation. You can automate lots of shyt and save a ton of time with just 10-20 lines of code. It all depends on what you're trying to do.
 
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:yes: I've been preaching this for a while now in this thread. If you're trying to make a career out of this, or if you're on your way up and trying to get an edge over the competition, cloud + automation is the fastest route.

Cloud + Linux + Some scripting language(python/go/node)
Cloud + Network + Security + Some scripting language(python/go/node)
Cloud + Containers + Some scripting language(python/go/node)

Also.. I see a lot of people get overwhelmed by coding portion like you need to be a full stack developer to begin to automate stuff. You really don't need to go that deep.. just learn basic data structures, dataflow, loops and error handling and you're off to the races. You can start automating shyt within a few days of going through a python course. The most important thing is having a high level overview of what you're trying to accomplish, what pieces you're trying to tie together and they integrate with your code. Also, don't think you need to write 1000s of lines of code before it's considered automation. You can automate lots of shyt and save a ton of time with just 10-20 lines of code. It all depends of what you're trying to do.

Your take on coding is spot on. My code is trash and I was still able to work on a few projects at my old job.

I've been interviewing and even in IT support roles, you can get 100k if you have some experience and know to code. Where do you start if you want to learn about containers and CI/CD?
 

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Your take on coding is spot on. My code is trash and I was still able to work on a few projects at my old job.

I've been interviewing and even in IT support roles, you can get 100k if you have some experience and know to code. Where do you start if you want to learn about containers and CI/CD?
You should check out this dude's youtube channel if you're interested in devops concepts/tooling.

This should get you started with containers:



You can also checkout kodekloud as they have free hands on labs you can mess around with.

Regarding CI/CD, I started with gitlab as we were already using it for source control and it had the CI/CD portion built-in out of the box. There's an official container you can spin up if you wanted to test locally, but it's a bit involved if you're new to containers. You can also checkout github actions.. you get 2000 mins of free actions per month.

Here's another mastermind video to get you started on CI/CD:







On a side note... It's crazy how tech/IT has shifted in the past 5-6 years since I started this shyt. I'm seeing posters that I got my CCNA with around the same time back in 2015, and were looking to get all the way to NP/IE as that was the gold standard then..

Now? fukk I look like studying for a Cisco cert :mjlol: Don't get me wrong, the CCNA still holds some weight if you're green and trying to get into a network oriented position, but that's about the highest level Cisco cert I'd get.. unless you're trying to do voice or something. Companies are dumping cisco hard right now because of their licensing model.. up until last year we were a 100% cisco shop and we basically told them to go fukk themselves and started shopping for other vendors.

Even my coworkers with NPs are like.. yeah.. I'm just gonna let this shyt expire, there are way more other fun shyt to learn that holds a lot more weight.
 
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You had to use a webcam right. My old college is a testing center but their still down for COVID. Did the proctor give you any issue ?
It depends some of the Indian proctors we're annoying. Like if you stepped out of the frame of the webcam wanting to view the entire room again. Which if you're webcam is built into your laptop is a pain to give a 360 degree view. Luckily I had an old webcam that's external so it's easier to view the whole room. I've read horror stories of other testing proctors like Prometric. But didn't have too many problems with Peoplecert.

1. Don't try using a webcam built into a laptop.

2. Make sure everything is cleaned off your desk.

3. Make sure that proctor app passes all the tests.
 

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It never ceases to amaze me how many companies just give random technical people full access to their environments over and over again. Because their too cheap to pay for a full-time employee. Dude could've just sold access to their systems to hackers and it never would've traced back to him. Instead of doing the dirt himself and returning to the states like nothing happened.
:francis:

Resentful employee deletes 1,200 Microsoft Office 365 accounts, gets prison

Resentful employee deletes 1,200 Microsoft Office 365 accounts, gets prison
A former IT consultant hacked a company in Carlsbad, California, and deleted almost all its Microsoft Office 365 accounts in an act of revenge that has brought him two years of prison time.

More than 1,200 user accounts were removed in this act of sabotage, causing a complete shutdown of the company’s operations for two days.

Two-day downtime, months of recovery
Deepanshu Kher was working for an IT consulting firm that sent him to a client to help with migrating to Microsoft Office 365 services.

Following customer complaints, his employer pulled him from the task in January 2018 and sacked him in early May.

Kher kept a grudge and returned to his native country, India. On August 8, he hacked into the Carlsbad company and deleted over 1,200 of the 1,500 Microsoft Office 365 accounts present in the environment.

As a result, employees lost access to services that allowed them to do their job: email, contact lists, meeting calendars, documents, video and audio conferences, Teams.
 

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It never ceases to amaze me how many companies just give random technical people full access to their environments over and over again. Because their too cheap to pay for a full-time employee. Dude could've just sold access to their systems to hackers and it never would've traced back to him. Instead of doing the dirt himself and returning to the states like nothing happened.
:francis:

Resentful employee deletes 1,200 Microsoft Office 365 accounts, gets prison

Resentful employee deletes 1,200 Microsoft Office 365 accounts, gets prison
A former IT consultant hacked a company in Carlsbad, California, and deleted almost all its Microsoft Office 365 accounts in an act of revenge that has brought him two years of prison time.

More than 1,200 user accounts were removed in this act of sabotage, causing a complete shutdown of the company’s operations for two days.

Two-day downtime, months of recovery
Deepanshu Kher was working for an IT consulting firm that sent him to a client to help with migrating to Microsoft Office 365 services.

Following customer complaints, his employer pulled him from the task in January 2018 and sacked him in early May.

Kher kept a grudge and returned to his native country, India. On August 8, he hacked into the Carlsbad company and deleted over 1,200 of the 1,500 Microsoft Office 365 accounts present in the environment.

As a result, employees lost access to services that allowed them to do their job: email, contact lists, meeting calendars, documents, video and audio conferences, Teams.


Yea fire me ok. :demonic:
 

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:yes: I've been preaching this for a while now in this thread. If you're trying to make a career out of this, or if you're on your way up and trying to get an edge over the competition, cloud + automation is the fastest route.


Cloud + Linux + Some scripting language(python/go/node)
Cloud + Network + Security + Some scripting language(python/go/node)
Cloud + Containers + Some scripting language(python/go/node)

Any combo of the above will have you eating for a while.

If you wanna make stupid money, learn iac tooling and couple them with the above skillsets to create, manage and scale highly available infrastructure:

Terraform/Pulumi, ansible/saltstack, CI/CD(gitlab/jenkins), basic version control with Git, and Kubernetes. This may seem overwhelming at first, but you're not gonna learn all of this at once and you don't need to learn all of it. It's a natural evolution to your cloud/infra workflow... once you've gotten comfortable enough with cloud infra, clicked around the gui a few times and you find yourself repeating the same tasks over and over, you're gonna find it annoying and ask yourself.. how do I make this faster? That's where these tools come in.

Also.. I see a lot of people get overwhelmed by coding portion like you need to be a full stack developer to begin to automate stuff. You really don't need to go that deep.. just learn basic data structures, dataflow, loops and error handling and you're off to the races. You can start automating shyt within a few days of going through a python course. The most important thing is having a high level overview of what you're trying to accomplish, what pieces you're trying to tie together and how they integrate with your code. Also, don't think you need to write 1000s of lines of code before it's considered automation. You can automate lots of shyt and save a ton of time with just 10-20 lines of code. It all depends on what you're trying to do.

This is the way :banderas: Anyone who asks me the pathway to that big boy bag - I tell them exactly what you wrote. You dont have to be a coding guru. You dont have to be a cloud expert. You dont have to a linux genius. Just know enough to get around, be able to talk about it and do the actual work. Put some projects on the resume - finesse it up. People dont realize this is a game of adapting and you must learn to adapt or be left in the past. The amount of resources to learn these days is insane. You'd be a fool to not at least try to learn something never. I hope a lot of people took this time WFH during Covid to really level up their skillset. There is literally no excuse at this point :yeshrug:

Dont be caught on the sideline brehs
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So I just passed the A+ 1002 and now am officially A+ certified. Did it mainly to prove to myself I can complete it (been working on it on and off for 2 years), but now I'm tryna take a serious look into a career change. Any suggestion on what route I should go. Was looking to end up working in Security or as a Sys Admin. Was thinking of completing the Comptia Trifecta but also tryna get some hands on experience. Currently working for a large insurance company doing claims so no formal tech experience.
 
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