Israel vs Palestine in one image

[TallMan_J]

Let them all slug it out.

The majority of them are not real Israelites anyway and that land doesn’t belong to any of them.


Let those Europeans and Arabs over there hold their own nuts.

 

[Geek Nasty]

• A pawg will clean a fish in a minute and not say a damn word about it. Just leave a fish on a counter that bytch will start cutting
• Mayonaisse and bologna sandwiches, those girls tear up a kitchen like chef boyardee
• What am I oging to do with big round ass? My hands aren't that big
• Pawg p*ssy is like 21st century reparations and I'm collecting that check monthly
• Get yourself a pawg from one of those old Hannibal territories and that bytch will tan up enough in summer to pass for a redbone
• Pawgs like brothers! The coli taught me sisters can't stand black men

 

[wtfyomom]

Muther fukk Isreal, its not about oh theyre just arabs, I don't like any opressors, that's like saying fukk slavery cause hanibal at one point did some shyt. but besides that, shyt is so deep that nikkaz had to sign contracts to get hurricane relief in texas like anyone in texas was gonna boycott isreal in that red of a state, then you got Christian idiots that want this to happen cause their fantasy book told them the end of the world happens there, second in real life isreali people think theyre gods gift to the fukkin world. theyre the only ones more obnoxious than americans. nikkaz claming land off some thousand year old religious nonsense, but I bet they don't want to give Americas land up if we look back in history.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Your first statement defies common sense. If Islamic rule, with all of its warts and imperfects (which I dont deny in the least bit) was never, never, never as bad as even Czarist pogroms let alone the Holocaust, how could you draw an equivalence between the two, or fail to distinguish them? Whats the basis for that statement? Discrimination is on the same level as mass genocide? Really bruh?

Ill tell you while its outlandish. Because when the Jews were getting chased, stripped, beaten and killed across Europe, Arabs were making deals with them:

Faisal–Weizmann Agreement - Wikipedia

Jews were not subjected to attacks as soon as they began arriving in the Holy Land at the turn of the century, but rather violence broke out once the Zionist plan for displacing the Arabs became known. Arabs would sell land to Jews.

Having dumped its Jewish problem on to the laps of the Arabs, of fukking course, Europe can now turn around with that look and be all lovey dovey

Meanwhile, the Arabs lost Palestine, were defeated in wars of necessity, were betrayed by the European powers and subjected to imperial control

How could you compare the Jewish livelihood in Europe today with that of the Islamic world (where their presence is unfortunately negligble) without taking into account the partition of Palestine, and the effects of that original sin on where we are today

Its clear that you have a predetermined hatred of Arabs and Muslims, and are insisting on holding onto any position which confirms those biases, despite the lack of logic or consistency.

That's what you want it to be, but that's a gross simplification. At some point Europe transcended rote religiosity and structured it's societies on the ideals of free thought and basic liberties - things that are anathema in the Islamic world from then till now. Human slavery still exists in the Islamic world, does it exist in Europe? Do Muslims today flee to other Muslim societies for a better life or do they flee to Europe? What's the point of giving the Palestinians a state if a significant part of their population will probably just want to emigrate to France or Germany anyway, while the ones who remain will be preoccupied with a never-ending inferiority complex towards the Jews that will undoubtedly manifest itself into violence? On the flip-side Israel is actually a place where Jews emigrate to, not the other way around. It is a self-justifying society, though wildly imperfect, which is expected of a relatively young nation-state.

I'm not into cheesy moral arguments these days, I'm asking you point blank why you feel that I or anybody else who isn't a Jew or a Muslim should believe that the Palestinians as a people are competent or able enough to erect a sophisticated and tolerant society suited for the modern day, because sorry, I just don't see it. "But they've had it so rough" isn't doing anything for me.

And no I don't hate Arabs or Muslims, I just don't think they are worthy of any special consideration.

 

[Techniec]

I'm not into cheesy moral arguments these days, I'm asking you point blank why you feel that I or anybody else who isn't a Jew or a Muslim should believe that the Palestinians as a people are competent or able enough to erect a sophisticated and tolerant society suited for the modern day, because sorry, I just don't see it. "But they've had it so rough" isn't doing anything for me.

How many countries in the world would actually fit that bill? If that is the standard for self-determination, few countries are deserving of a state.

And what do you base tolerance on? Israel has been keeping the Palestinians under a military occupation for decades. Is that tolerant to you? Civilized? Is THAT the standard a country has to meet, to be deserving of a state? You say you dont suscribe to moral arguments, but your argument is still, morality lacking, a pure emotional one. It is not grounded in any law or logic.

The problems of the Islamic world, significantly contributed to by external powers (which youve conveniently ignored), is irrelevant to the discussion of whether the Palestinians deserve a state. But even if it was...again...I go back to the same point

end the occupation

Dont give them a state. Fine. But why uproot their trees? Why kick them out of their homes? Why demolish their villages? Why deny them water? Why restrict rebuilding material? Why impose economic sanctions and cripple their economy? Why detain them without due process? Why torture them? Why use disproportionate force to crush non violent protests? Why blackball and target academics and politicians who sympathize with them? Why deploy a massive propaganda campaign against them? Why kill them?

 

[GetInTheTruck]

How many countries in the world would actually fit that bill? If that is the standard for self-determination, few countries are deserving of a state.

Is this a real question? Islamic countries worldwide do not offer even the most basic freedoms and liberties enjoyed elsewhere. But you think a Palestinian state will be any different? I'm asking you why I should support that, you aren't convincing me. Instead of telling me how bad Israel is, why don't you tell me how good a Palestinian state would be for the region. Can you?

And what do you base tolerance on? Israel has been keeping the Palestinians under a military occupation for decades. Is that tolerant to you? Civilized? Is THAT the standard a country has to meet, to be deserving of a state? You say you dont suscribe to moral arguments, but your argument is still, morality lacking, a pure emotional one. It is not grounded in any law or logic.

This may sound abhorrent to you, but I think keeping them under military occupation has been an ugly necessity. Israel is the only Jewish country in the Middle East, and most Muslims have anti-Semitic views. I'm not a person that believes any and everything should be tolerated. And yes by every sane standard used by humans today, Israel is a civilized society. Islamic societies are not. A Palestinian state would be no different.

Dont give them a state. Fine. But why uproot their trees? Why kick them out of their homes? Why demolish their villages? Why deny them water? Why restrict rebuilding material? Why impose economic sanctions and cripple their economy? Why detain them without due process? Why torture them? Why use disproportionate force to crush non violent protests? Why blackball and target academics and politicians who sympathize with them? Why deploy a massive propaganda campaign against them? Why kill them?

Listen, the Palestinians spoke clearly when they elected Hamas to represent them. They want to be martyrs, they teach their children that Jews are their eternal enemies and that Israel is the work of Shaytaan...they don't want to play nice so let's cut the bullshyt breh. As long as they refuse to admit that Israel is a reality and isn't going anywhere they will continue to suffer and wallow in their own ineptitude.