I go out and spend a beautiful day with the family, and come back to see that you are still making light of the fact that young children get abused by sick perverts. Really? Pedophilia is what you are bragging on? That's below you. Whatever problem you and I have doesn't need to resort of using pedophilia as insults.
Well, isn't that convenient for your argument? What you said is a matter of opinion.It is completely subjective in nature, yet you are passing it as fact.
You ignore what is going on in Africa AGAIN.
It very much is, especially regarding rifts and sects in Islam itself.
How convenient again that the scholars you read (yourself) point to those 3. The second is a far, far reach by the way and you know it. The first and last are obviously documented history. But what logic are you following in using that as a point?
It would be the equivalent of the British blaming France for Abu Ghraib or Atomic Bombs dropped on Japan because the French backed America in the Revolutionary War.
America has backed a lot of different sides and interests over its history, some good and some bad. That doesn't excuse people for acting like religious nuts. That doesn't imply that this behavior hasn't ALWAYS existed.
You argument is completely and utterly logically flawed.
Do you see Chileans coming Christian terrorism because America backed Pinochet? What about Panama or Haiti?
America backed Taiwan, continues to back Taiwan and China is our number one trading partner.
What about the
Suez Crisis huh? Have you ever heard about that piece of history? When America threatened Military Action against the United Kingdom, France and Israel over Egypt's sovereign claim to the Suez Canal?
What a bunch of apologist bullshyt you are trying to spew here.
"Oh, my daddy beat my mommy so that's why I'm a criminal" type of bullshyt. These are conscious beings capable of rational and subjective thinking and they are trying to get a pass for primitive behavior.
TUH you got handled in this thread. You turned right, you turned left, you ended up lost.
First of all stop being such a pretentious whiny biitch. This is the internet. This is not a University symposium, as such my posts will have some entertain factor, because I post for the people.
Second of all my assertion is not subjective. Hamas fights for liberation of Palestine or a Global Caliphate? Does Hezbollah fight for the liberation of Lebanon and Shia empowerment or does it fight for a Global Caliphate? Does the Abu Sayaf fight for an Islamic south Phillipines or a Global Caliphate? Does the Taliban fight to implement Sharia in Afghanistan/Pakistan or a Global Caliphate? Any one with any understanding of terrorism and global politics understands that these conflicts are for the most part, localized and politicized conflicts.
Third of all, you keep bringing up Africa. What did you want to discuss in Africa? Nigeria and Boko Haram? Ask any Nigerian and theyll tell you that conflict is not simply a black and white issue. Sudan? Thats just as much racial chauvanism as it is Islamic aggression, ask the Darfur Muslims.
Again I have never made the claim, and you will find no evidence, that I have ever indicated that all acts of Islamic militancy are devoid of a religious context. I simply reiterate that there are ALWAYS socio economic and political factors to take into consideration as MOST of the time, those actually trump the RELIGIOUS factor, which alot of times is simply a fig leaf
Going back to the point which you have consistently ran away from. You launch posts against Islamic violence, and I asked you, is your concern AS AN AMERICAN, Islamic militancy or Islamic social behaviour? If its social behaviour, its clearly a cultural slash religious issue, and feel free to condemn the honor killings and rigid patriachy that make up a significant chunk of the Islamic world. However, at the end of the day, its irrelevant to you as an American, no different than Hindu patriarchy, Russian racism, and Jamaican homophobia.
If however your issue is Islamic militancy, then your tirades and rants MUST include the socio economic and political and historical factors that have contributed to this Islamic militancy, MOST IMPORANTLY, the role YOUR American Empire has played in formenting, using and manipulating Islamic militancy, and both DIRECTLY and INDIRECTLY contributing to its spread, MOST NOTABLY through the THREE prime examples I have given you, which I will repeat again:
- The Islamic Revolution in Iran 1979
- The Afghan Jihad/Islamicization of Pakistan
- The Rise of the Al Sauds
Any elementary analysis of those conflicts will expose Americas finger prints
Again, I dont ask that you simply sweep Islamic militancy under the rug of America and Israel, and leave the discussion at that. And I have NEVER in my TEN years of posting in KTL/HL done that. I just simply REFUSE to allow an naive ignorant American, to point fingers and BLAME ISLAM for things that are clearly just a TAD bit more complex
Now, take those bells of your feet, and fukk outta this thread
from the vast majority of the community.
