Islamic Protests in London and Sydney

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Anyway, thread hijacking aside, I'm waiting on someone to answer this:

Why are protests, violent might I add, occurring in a 1st world country (that has embraced it's Muslim population, gives them healthcare, education and a social safety net) over a film made in another country, by a select few people exercising their right to freedom of speech?

What reason is there besides religion and religious requirements to do so?
 

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Racist Russians and homophic Jamaicans aren't trying to spread poison all over the world as "peace" and "religions harmony".

Witness the fly as it squirms in the web

So we have established the that your concern with Muslims stems from Islamic militancy which is both localized and globalized

So we re not talking about honor killings and patriarchy, which although displeasing to you as it is to any civilized person is not the crux of your argument or the reason why as an American your concerned

Your issue is Islamic militancy

And I said to you, who put the AK in the mullahs hands? Who kept the ShAh in power and who backs up the Saudis?

Your response was a rant about honor killings.

:steviej:

Your move...cux you're about to get checkmated here bruh
 

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Wow you're not even an apologist anymore Tech you're lock step with tlol now.

Didn't you say fuk it and just gave up and started trolling 2 yrs ago?

:why:

Anyways child, daddy Techs got bells on TUHs feet and he's about to start dancing, take notes
 

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Witness the fly as it squirms in the web

So we have established the that your concern with Muslims stems from Islamic militancy which is both localized and globalized

So we re not talking about honor killings and patriarchy, which although displeasing to you as it is to any civilized person is not the crux of your argument or the reason why as an American your concerned

Your issue is Islamic militancy

And I said to you, who put the AK in the mullahs hands? Who kept the ShAh in power and who backs up the Saudis?

Your response was a rant about honor killings.

:steviej:

Your move...cux you're about to get checkmated here bruh


I think you give yourself too much credit at times. Way too much.

I have ALWAYS been anti-religion. No matter what religion. No matter what aspect of religion. I'm against militancy, denial of science, honor killings, irrational behavior based on fairy tales, etc. etc.

Why are you making it seem that it can only be about one thing? I've read your responses to TLOL about Israel and Zionism, and you do the exact same thing. Jumping from place to place about your opposition to Israel.

You're trying to end a debate that you haven't even entered into. I pointed out specifically that your "socio-economic" and "oppression" arguments do not apply here.
 

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I think you give yourself too much credit at times. Way too much.

I have ALWAYS been anti-religion. No matter what religion. No matter what aspect of religion. I'm against militancy, denial of science, honor killings, irrational behavior based on fairy tales, etc. etc.

Why are you making it seem that it can only be about one thing? I've read your responses to TLOL about Israel and Zionism, and you do the exact same thing. Jumping from place to place about your opposition to Israel.

You're trying to end a debate that you haven't even entered into. I pointed out specifically that your "socio-economic" and "oppression" arguments do not apply here.

No no no little puzzy, don't back out now

Islamic militancy in modern times can be reduced to three major factors:

- the Islamic revolution in Iran
- the rise of the Wahhabi al Saudis
- the Afghan jihad

Who backs the Saudis, who put AKS in Afghan/Pakistani mullahs hands, who backed the Shah?

C'mon sweetheart daddy wants you to dance
 

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No no no little puzzy, don't back out now

Islamic militancy in modern times can be reduced to three major factors:

- the Islamic revolution in Iran
- the rise of the Wahhabi al Saudis
- the Afghan jihad

Who backs the Saudis, who put AKS in Afghan/Pakistani mullahs hands, who backed the Shah?

C'mon sweetheart daddy wants you to dance

You're calling me a "Faccot" while alluding to dancing boys in Afghanistan, a very serious case of religious Islamic child abuse. I understand it's your culture, but raping young males is not something to brag about.

Anyway, to your "point", Islamic militancy all began with those 3 recent events huh? What a load of shyt.

Revisionism of history if I ever seen it.
 

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You're calling me a "Faccot" while alluding to dancing boys in Afghanistan, a very serious case of religious Islamic child abuse. I understand it's your culture, but raping young males is not something to brag about.

Anyway, to your "point", Islamic militancy all began with those 3 recent events huh? What a load of shyt.

Revisionism of history if I ever seen it.


Once again you're ducking and dodging, but you're caught. You fukked up and you're about to start dancing to the tabla

Religious militancy is inherent in the religion itself. But only a minor element of modern Islamic militancy is aggressive re establish the caliphate type nonsense

The overwhelming majority started off as defensive localized and politicized

I'm speaking on the modern era because that's what's relevant. The barbary pirates of the Maghreb 200 yrs ago is not really relevant to our conversation

Any known scholar will tell you THREE factors were most responsible and relevant to modern Islamic militancy

- the Islamic revolution of 79
- the rise of the Wahhabi al Saudis
- the afghan jihad ( and subsequent islamicization of Pakistan courtesy of Zia Ul haq)

Who backed the Shah? Who backed the Afghan jihadi resistance? Who backed the Al Sauds?

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This thread got quiet as a church mouse pissing on carpet, word to sly boogie
 

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afghanis are some pedophiles brah :pachaha:

once they stop raping 10 year olds in the ass they can come to the table and start discussing issues with the rest of the world

until them who gives a shyt about these people:ohhh:

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This thread got quiet as a church mouse pissing on carpet, word to sly boogie

Yeah Muslims weren't butchering each other in the early 1900's got it.



Sectarian violence is a myth

Tribalism?

Turkey anyone?

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Yeah Muslims weren't butchering each other in the early 1900's got it.



Sectarian violence is a myth

Tribalism?

Turkey anyone?

:rudy:

Apparently you're under the impression that in 1900 there were Islamic militants and international Islamic terrorism

:ld:

Fetch me my cigar and scotch and let Uncle Tech teach you a thing or two, my child

Tribalism is not Islamic terrorism. Did you flip to the T section of the dictionary, see all those words and then just said "fuk it"?

Turkey? :bryan: you fukin moron, the CUP were nationalists, the Ottomans were motivated by pan Turkic ideology than Islamism as evident by the fact that not only did the Greeks and Armenians get it, but the Arabs were oppressed to, hence the Arab uprising

Ask the Kurds how Islamic the Turks were

Lol @ 88m3 running into the Royal Rumble just to get promptly thrown over the top rope

Back to the locker room little buddy

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Once again you're ducking and dodging, but you're caught. You fukked up and you're about to start dancing to the tabla

I go out and spend a beautiful day with the family, and come back to see that you are still making light of the fact that young children get abused by sick perverts. Really? Pedophilia is what you are bragging on? That's below you. Whatever problem you and I have doesn't need to resort of using pedophilia as insults.

Religious militancy is inherent in the religion itself. But only a minor element of modern Islamic militancy is aggressive re establish the caliphate type nonsense

Well, isn't that convenient for your argument? What you said is a matter of opinion.It is completely subjective in nature, yet you are passing it as fact.
You ignore what is going on in Africa AGAIN.

The overwhelming majority started off as defensive localized and politicized

I'm speaking on the modern era because that's what's relevant. The barbary pirates of the Maghreb 200 yrs ago is not really relevant to our conversation

It very much is, especially regarding rifts and sects in Islam itself.

Any known scholar will tell you THREE factors were most responsible and relevant to modern Islamic militancy

- the Islamic revolution of 9
- the rise of the Wahhabi al Saudis
- the afghan jihad ( and subsequent islamicization of Pakistan courtesy of Zia Ul haq)

Who backed the Shah? Who backed the Afghan jihadi resistance? Who backed the Al Sauds?

How convenient again that the scholars you read (yourself) point to those 3. The second is a far, far reach by the way and you know it. The first and last are obviously documented history. But what logic are you following in using that as a point?

It would be the equivalent of the British blaming France for Abu Ghraib or Atomic Bombs dropped on Japan because the French backed America in the Revolutionary War.

America has backed a lot of different sides and interests over its history, some good and some bad. That doesn't excuse people for acting like religious nuts. That doesn't imply that this behavior hasn't ALWAYS existed.

You argument is completely and utterly logically flawed.

Do you see Chileans coming Christian terrorism because America backed Pinochet? What about Panama or Haiti?

America backed Taiwan, continues to back Taiwan and China is our number one trading partner.

What about the Suez Crisis huh? Have you ever heard about that piece of history? When America threatened Military Action against the United Kingdom, France and Israel over Egypt's sovereign claim to the Suez Canal?

What a bunch of apologist bullshyt you are trying to spew here.

"Oh, my daddy beat my mommy so that's why I'm a criminal" type of bullshyt. These are conscious beings capable of rational and subjective thinking and they are trying to get a pass for primitive behavior.
 
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